BigBasses Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 So I had the 2015 model Orochii in the jig and worm. I absolutely loved it but it broke on me the other day. I'm sending it in for a new 2018 Orochii but there is no longer a Jig and Worm model. Not sure what rod to get. I will be using it to pitch creature baits on a 3/16 tungsten on 20lb fluoro into laydowns. I need the rod to be stout enough for a solid hook set but also light enough to make accurate casts at trees. The jig and worm was perfect but was on the top end as far as stoutness. Any suggestions??? Quote
Logan S Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Perfect Pitch...You'll probably like it a lot more than the Jig & Worm model you broke. Quote
BigBasses Posted June 20, 2018 Author Posted June 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, Logan S said: Perfect Pitch...You'll probably like it a lot more than the Jig & Worm model you broke. Definitely considering that one, just worried it might be a too stiff/heavy for me. Quote
Yudo1 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 I'd get the perfect pitch as well. I noticed the rating is lighter than the previous generation that I own. The former being 3/8-2oz and now 3/8-1 1/4. The brailist might be an interesting model when it comes out. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted June 20, 2018 Super User Posted June 20, 2018 The jig and worm was the most hated rod of the previous XX generation. I’m actually surprised to hear that you really liked it. That might be because you didn’t try anything else from the xx series but I don’t know if that’s true or not. They are still available from The Tackle Trap for $189. There’s a reason why that one isn’t sold out and all the others are. Anyhow, enough rambling on about that. I would pick up the new perfect pitch if it was me, or the braillist if 7’5 isn’t an issue. The Tour versatile isn’t a bad rod either. It’s a little less stout than the perfect pitch but still a nice rod. I feel the PP has a much softer tip though. I had both in the previous xx series and sold the TV and kept the PP. 3/16 weight is going to be a little on the light side for the perfect pitch, considering it was well loved as a frog rod in the previous model. The PP is considered an extra heavy. If the new generation has as good of a tip I think you can make it work though. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted June 20, 2018 Super User Posted June 20, 2018 I have the old model TV and while I like it a lot, it is far better at the upper end of it's range, a 3/16 weight plus a normal plastic is going to be doable but not amazing. People rave about the tip on the PP, so I would go for that model in the new range. Quote
TylerT123 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 4 hours ago, BigBasses said: Definitely considering that one, just worried it might be a too stiff/heavy for me. Might be harder to break then. Quote
Logan S Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Despite being a full power heavier, the Perfect Pitch is better at handling the lighter stuff when pitching/flipping than the Tour Versatile is. I have both (2 TV's actually). I use the TV for casting/skipping jigs, big spinnerbaits, toads, and some other stuff...But generally all techniques where you're casting the bait, not pitching/flipping short distances. For the short distance, heavy cover stuff I'll use the Perfect Pitch. The Perfect Pitch does casting stuff just as well too, it's just also really good at pitching/flipping...The name is fitting, it's awesome at pitching. Both rods would do the job well...But if you ask me, I'd take the Perfect Pitch for the scenario you described. Only disclaimer I'd add is that this is all based on the 1st Gen XX rods since I have not used the 2nd Gen XX's yet. Quote
tim_kovar Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 I'd go with the new perfect pitch model. I am pretty certain, like the others have said, you will end up liking it even better than your old Jig and Worm. I had the jig and worm rod for a little while and there was just something about it that seemed very lifeless to me. Quote
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