Dorado Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: I use a 1/16oz head with a #2 hook and it doesn't hit bottom often, just a slow glide/shake retrieve just off the bottom. When one does hang up, a bowstring pop will often knock them loose and I can keep the retrieve going. X2 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 22, 2018 Super User Posted June 22, 2018 Obviously take both but I'll tell you what....on our trip to Michigan 2 weeks ago I could have fished 2 baits for the entire week and been plum wore out at the end of every day. A dropshot rigged with a Yamamoto Shad Shaped Worm in Natural Shad. A Ned rigged with a Yamamoto Cali-roll green pumpkin/red flake. Normally I only fish a Pro Senko on my dropshot setup but that SSW just flat tore them up all week. I just happened to have the Cali Roll and thought the paddle tail would give good action....and it sure did. If you throw either of these make sure you let me know how you did. Quote
Chance_Taker4 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, TOXIC said: Obviously take both but I'll tell you what....on our trip to Michigan 2 weeks ago I could have fished 2 baits for the entire week and been plum wore out at the end of every day. A dropshot rigged with a Yamamoto Shad Shaped Worm in Natural Shad. A Ned rigged with a Yamamoto Cali-roll green pumpkin/red flake. Normally I only fish a Pro Senko on my dropshot setup but that SSW just flat tore them up all week. I just happened to have the Cali Roll and thought the paddle tail would give good action....and it sure did. If you throw either of these make sure you let me know how you did. What waters were you fishing? Quote
rtwvumtneer6 Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 Just read through this at light speed, so sorry if I'm repeating... But has anyone mentioned a Carolina rig? Seems to be a forgotten technique in my area, but it covers water and gets bit. Good luck this weekend! Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 23, 2018 Super User Posted June 23, 2018 22 hours ago, Chance_Taker4 said: What waters were you fishing? Lake St Clair. All over the USA side from the mile roads to selfrige to the mouth of the salt to metro to both big and little muscamoot. We stay on harsens island. Quote
LxVE Bassin Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 10:07 PM, OCdockskipper said: I'd say that is an excellent strategy. If you find the fish are on the bottom and won't come up to get a bait, you might want to bump up to a 1/10 oz head to get the bait down there a bit quicker. I would venture to say you will catch more fish on the drop than the dropshot folks, so if the fish happen to be looking up that day, you will have a decided advantage. I was dropshotting last weekend in 30 feet of water. I started out with a 1/4 ounce weight and it took forever to get to the bottom. I moved up to a 3/8 ounce weight and that worked much better. With that being said 1/10 ounce weight will take way too long to get to the bottom in deep water, especially in a tourney where time is money. Quote
Chance_Taker4 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Posted June 26, 2018 I threw both during my tournament. The 1/10 Ned was just too light for the 20' I was fishing. I switched to a 3/8 out drop shot. I switched between a Jackall Cross tail shad and a super fluke. was able to put a small limit together on the drop shot. However I switched to a 3/8oz shakey head with a 6" Jackall Flick Shake and was able to land a 3 and a 3.5. I ended the day with a bag of 11# 2oz which got me 2nd on the Co-Angler side. I think if I would have switched to the shakey head earlier I could have won the co side but I switch late in the day. We were fishing an overcast cold front on deep rock piles and submerged vegetation. 3 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 26, 2018 Super User Posted June 26, 2018 Good Deal. I have 1/4 oz Ned heads for the deeper stuff. In reality, I never thought there was much of a difference between the Ned and a Shakey Head except for the smaller bait on the Ned. Quote
Chance_Taker4 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Posted June 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, TOXIC said: Good Deal. I have 1/4 oz Ned heads for the deeper stuff. In reality, I never thought there was much of a difference between the Ned and a Shakey Head except for the smaller bait on the Ned. I work them a little different. For the ned I like to drag it along the bottom or very softly switch it. And for a shakey head I am more bouncing it off the bottom and letting it fall back down. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 27, 2018 Global Moderator Posted June 27, 2018 Just have to be patient with the Ned. We were dropping them on a sheer drop at Beaver a few years ago that went from 10-40 straight down. Fish were mostly coming up to meet it but we were getting some near the bottom with it too. Takes over a minute for that 1/16oz head to get down that far but it didn't take long when it got there. It's really a trick when the wind is blowing, almost like flyfishing the way you have to watch the bow in your line. 2 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted June 27, 2018 Super User Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 12:57 PM, TOXIC said: Good Deal. I have 1/4 oz Ned heads for the deeper stuff. In reality, I never thought there was much of a difference between the Ned and a Shakey Head except for the smaller bait on the Ned. For me, the difference is that the Ned never touches the bottom on purpose and is allways moving. A shakyhead is allways on the bottom and is sitting still a lot of the time. For me, the Neko/Shaky divide is the most blurred, the main dffetence for me is weedless or not. Quote
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