TxHawgs Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Ok, so first off if I'm fishing 15lb fluoro its dam strong and you have to pull it really hard to break off or pull loose. Well that ruins the fluoro stretching it like that correct? So what happened and my example is this, I'm crankbait fishing w an 8ft rod and SK 8XD so making bomb cast on this point. I get snagged so do I pull and hope it breaks off and I lose the lure or is that wrecking the line cuz I'm pulling on it so hard to break it loose that I bent a cpl guides on a 350 dollar rod and yes the rod is pointed straight at the bait. Or do u just cut it loose and loose so much line that it puts that rod out of commission for the rest of the day not to mention leaving all that line in the lake. And I'm a co angler so it's not like I can have multiple rods of the same type when I already have 7 in the boat. So there u have it, so what do u guys do? Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 Why pull hard before trying to shake it loose from several different angles since you have a boat? Next before trying to break the crankbait off, use a lure retriever to recover the lure. Don't worry about shutting the bite off, the bass will return in about 20 minutes. Tom 2 Quote
OnthePotomac Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 If you decide to pull to either free up a bait, or break off don't use the rod to do it. Solution: Get a piece of 1" dowel, or broom stick cut to 6" long. Take a file and file a grove around the middle of the piece and when you want to pull, wrap the line around the wood piece on the groove off the end of your rod and save your rod. 3 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 One sage piece of advice......stand sideways to the bait. Don't ask me how I know. 2 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 You need a plug knocker. 1 Quote
DomQ Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, TOXIC said: One sage piece of advice......stand sideways to the bait. Don't ask me how I know. You still have both eyes? Lao did it hurt right away or take a second? Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, TxHawgs said: Or do u just cut it loose and loose so much line that it puts that rod out of commission for the rest of the day not to mention leaving all that line in the lake. Leaving line in the lake should be the last resort solution. On a boat or kayak I maneuver around until I am on the other side of the snag and get it loose. On the bank I walk to the right or left and shake to work it free or use the bowstring method in hopes of freeing my snagged lure. 44 minutes ago, OnthePotomac said: If you decide to pull to either free up a bait, or break off don't use the rod to do it. Solution: Get a piece of 1" dowel, or broom stick cut to 6" long. Take a file and file a grove around the middle of the piece and when you want to pull, wrap the line around the wood piece on the groove off the end of your rod and save your rod. Good advice. I use my fish grippers the same way you use the broom stick. I wrap my line around the handle and pull the line until it breaks. 9 out of 10 times it breaks at the knot leaving very little of any line in the water. 1 Quote
Super User JustJames Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 I guess you are bank fishing, otherwise you would talk about plug knocker already. Bank fishing and plug knocker wouldn't you do any good. I only able to retrieve my lure back just a few times when snag really close and lost it afterwards. I also using my whole rod as knocker when the lure is close(you can damage your tip guide this way, I did this only for expensive lures) like @NYWayfarermentioned leaving a lot of line in water is not good, it will become a whole pile underwater and snag other lure even more, and birds might get tangle with the line(I rescued a duck with line tangle his foot before). I'd pull and hope your line brake at the knot, 15lb Flouro is nothing, you can brake pull with ease without special tool. Point your rod tip straight to the lure, hold your thump tight on the spool, quick hard pull and duck. 2 Quote
All about da bass Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 When I get hung and I don't feel like trolling over the other side of it and pull, I just pull a little tension on it and grab the line that's at the base of the rod and pull back and snap it like a bow. It usually sends enough vibration to pop it off or loose. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, TxHawgs said: And I'm a co angler so it's not like I can have multiple rods of the same type when I already have 7 in the boat. 10 minutes ago, JustJames said: I guess you are bank fishing, otherwise you would talk about plug knocker already. 1 hour ago, J Francho said: You need a plug knocker. 1 Quote
All about da bass Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, JustJames said: I guess you are bank fishing, otherwise you would talk about plug knocker already. Bank fishing and plug knocker wouldn't you do any good. I only able to retrieve my lure back just a few times when snag really close and lost it afterwards. I also using my whole rod as knocker when the lure is close(you can damage your tip guide this way, I did this only for expensive lures) like @NYWayfarermentioned leaving a lot of line in water is not good, it will become a whole pile underwater and snag other lure even more, and birds might get tangle with the line(I rescued a duck with line tangle his foot before). I'd pull and hope your line brake at the knot, 15lb Flouro is nothing, you can brake pull with ease without special tool. Point your rod tip straight to the lure, hold your thump tight on the spool, quick hard pull and duck. He just said he is a co angler. Do they have bank fishing tournaments now? Kidding? Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, J Francho said: You need a plug knocker. THIS It will pay for itself in probably your first trip 1 Quote
Super User Angry John Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 Just got my first good knocker, a lure hound. I fish more agressively now that I have it, works great. 1 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, Angry John said: Just got my first good knocker, a lure hound. I fish more agressively now that I have it, works great. I have this same one and highly recommend it. It's not expensive and I currently have a 100% success rate on retrieving anything from cranks to jigs. 1 Quote
Super User Angry John Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 Ten bucks from tw makes value in the first lure saved. Does turn line orange though. Quote
TxHawgs Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 Yea I'm pretty advanced and know of the bow string technique and I had but have run out of the knockers. They work good on single hook stuff but this was only coming off w one of the dog retrievers. We moved boat around to different angles no success. And I have wrapped my line around things to pull like mentioned but overlooked it this time just wasn't thinking. So I need to get a dog retriever guess there not too big to add just wont be able to put it in one of those retractable dog leashes. I use tatsu and sunline fc and a steady pull the *** strong as hell I've broke hooks b4 line. So last question that no one commented on, I always read once you stretch fluoro like that its shot. True or false? Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 15 hours ago, DomQ said: You still have both eyes? Lao did it hurt right away or take a second? It wasn't my eyes that took the hit. 2 1 Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, TOXIC said: It wasn't my eyes that took the hit. On a related note....I once had to call it day after a missed hook set with a hollow body frog came flying back and hit me square in the.......well....you get the picture. Thank god it wasn't a big spook. 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 15 hours ago, MassYak85 said: I have this same one and highly recommend it. It's not expensive and I currently have a 100% success rate on retrieving anything from cranks to jigs. I've had my janky Bill Dance knocker for several years, and I'm at 100% as well. Quote
Todd2 Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 The bow trick works for me 90% of the time, the other 10 I just pull it out with a dowel rod. My plug knocker is gathering spider webs, but I'm using braid. For Fluoro, I'd keep the plug knocker handy and it'll save you a lot of lures. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 8 hours ago, TxHawgs said: So last question that no one commented on, I always read once you stretch fluoro like that its shot. True or false? Never heard that...doesn't mean it isn't true....but, wouldn't you risk ruining a spool with every fish and snag? As to plug knockers, I use Big Ugly Plug Knockers - from ebay - most of my fishing is from a kayak and the hound was more bulk and weight than I like to pack most days. Quote
Logan S Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 8 hours ago, TxHawgs said: So last question that no one commented on, I always read once you stretch fluoro like that its shot. True or false? True. There's a point where you 'overstretch' it if you pull too hard and it kills that section of line. If I have to pull hard to get off a snag I'll wrap it around my pliers as close as I can get and pull from there, then cut my line where I wrapped it and retie to avoid the damaged section. But like everyone else said, get a hound dog. Quote
grub_man Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 Fluoro does stretch in these situations. Unlike mono, it quickly stretches out of its elastic region and does not spring back. When you stretch fluoro, you are effectively decreasing its diameter and decreasing its breaking strength. I wouldn't say its shot after a single snag, but repeated stretching or extreme stretching will kill the line. Plug knockers are great and worth every penny, but I'm not even sure if mine is in the boat right now. I might want to take a look. When you can't get it back, definitely break the line rather than cut it. It's not good to leave line in the lake, but I have retrieved a few nice cranks over the years after catching someone's cut line. 1 Quote
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