J.Vincent Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Today I was fishing a 3/8 oz Sammy style bait on a new (2 months old) Origin BaitCasting reel. The centrifugal brake system is a dial on the inside of the spool, and it's set to 1. The spool tension knob is set for a slow to medium fall rate.....everything is tuned properly and yet I was getting a screeching sound at the very end of my casts. The spool spins freely and smoothly for about 60+ feet , but about 10 to 15 feet before the lure enters the water, the reel begins screeching and the spool slows dramatically ? What could be causing this aside from a faulty braking system ? Quote
jbrew73 Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 You can putting a drop of oil on a q-tip and rubbing it around the brass colored brake ring on the inside of the side plate. That usually cures the problem on centrifugal brake reels. i wouldn't consider it a problem or fault with the reel. Some do it and some don't. 1 Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 3 hours ago, jbrew73 said: You can putting a drop of oil on a q-tip and rubbing it around the brass colored brake ring on the inside of the side plate. That usually cures the problem on centrifugal brake reels. i wouldn't consider it a problem or fault with the reel. Some do it and some don't. Yep. I cleaned that brass ring on my reel and I didn't re-lube it properly and started hearing that same noise. 1 Quote
J.Vincent Posted June 11, 2018 Author Posted June 11, 2018 Okay , I opened up the reel to check the brake ring and applied some thin Reel oil and I'm hoping this solves the problem. However, I decided to pull the spool to also check the spool bearing. And the spool shaft is caked in dirty grease. Does this seem normal for a Reel that's been used about 30 times ? Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 Perfectly normal. A lot of reels come very over-lubed from the factory. 2 1 Quote
J.Vincent Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 Well this reel was definitely way over lubed from the factory, and it's mind boggling why any manufacturer would over lube like this. But anyway, the interesting thing is, once I wiped out the excess and applied a new thin layer of some old discount Gander Mountain Reel lubricant; it's now consistently casting 20 feet further then before and the screeching went away ! So thank you to everyone for your advice 1 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Active_Outdoors said: Well this reel was definitely way over lubed from the factory, and it's mind boggling why any manufacturer would over lube like this. But anyway, the interesting thing is, once I wiped out the excess and applied a new thin layer of some old discount Gander Mountain Reel lubricant; it's now consistently casting 20 feet further then before and the screeching went away ! So thank you to everyone for your advice Most manufacturers will put excess grease because a lot of people don't service their reels. A thick layer of grease will keep it functioning longer, though not at peak performance. 1 Quote
OnthePotomac Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 To each his own, but I will not allow any lubricant on my spool shafts, nor the inside of my pinion gears and even polish them with a Dremel buffer and rouge. Quote
Junger Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, OnthePotomac said: nor the inside of my pinion gears and even polish them with a Dremel buffer and rouge. Do you lube the pinion gear to the main gear? Just wondering, I'm new to reel mechanics and I think I'm going to try and start servicing them myself soon. Quote
J.Vincent Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 16 hours ago, .ghoti. said: Perfectly normal. A lot of reels come very over-lubed from the factory. Does the Spool Shaft even need to be coated with sticky lube (Gear grease) or can Reel Oil be used instead ? Will using oil affect the longevity ? 4 hours ago, OnthePotomac said: To each his own, but I will not allow any lubricant on my spool shafts, nor the inside of my pinion gears and even polish them with a Dremel buffer and rouge. So you are saying wipe off all lubricants from the spool shaft ? And use a high speed polishing method to reduce friction; is there any longevity issue with this approach ? Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, Active_Outdoors said: Does the Spool Shaft even need to be coated with sticky lube (Gear grease) or can Reel Oil be used instead ? Will using oil affect the longevity ? I use reel oil on the spool shaft of my baitcasters, not grease. I open them up every two or three trips, wipe off the old oil and put some fresh oil on. I can't imagine it would affect the longevity of the reel as long as it routinely maintained. 1 Quote
The Bassman Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 Spool shaft should be clean and dry. Just light oil on the bearings. 1 1 Quote
diehardbassfishing Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 Don't overlook the spool ends. Small dab of grease. Clean and lube the phenolic discs that interface with the spool shaft. Under the spool tension knob and under the side plate bearing. (Yea, this is where folks polish the spool ends to mirror finish for "super tuning".) I don't polish the spool ends. Just clean the ends, and the discs they ride against. Then bit of grease where the spool ends touch the phenolic. Do every time you do a bearing clean/lube. Of course with a floating spool design (like Daiwa Zillion) the crank side of the spool ends at the center of the pinion gear. Not at the spool tension cap. Clean and grease in the center of the pinion gear. Above is correct. The spool shaft does not need grease. The grease in your pic was intended for the pinion end where the spool engages for cranking. But obviously went up the whole spool shaft. Dry is best when it comes to the shaft itself. Especially where the shaft (either side) goes into the bearing. You don't want the bearing spinning on the shaft. Karl 1 Quote
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