Color?

[Tennessee Boy]

I think you will see a big difference between black and white.  Maybe a little difference between white and chartreuse.  No difference between black and blue.  The color of the glitter in your plastic worm only matters if it makes you happy. 

 

Of course there may be times when these rules don't apply?

[Catt]

2 hours ago, Glaucus said:

Natural colors in clearer waters and darker colors in dirtier waters

 

Why start with that?

 

That's what most start with when discussing color & is usually a reference to someone's color charts.

[Rahlow]

I believe dark colors mean more in “stained” water than color itself, less light equals less color rendition,

[WRB]

Ever heard of Butch Brown or Bill Murphy? One thing both trophy bass anglers had in common was a good understanding of big bass habits based on thousands of hours studying and catching these special bass. Murphy was a dental color technician and unstood every nuonce of color variation under every lighting condition. The variations with white for white under different lightning and shades is mind boggling let alone the entire color spectrum visible to the human eye intrepation by the human brain. 

Murphy understood changing colors was important to catch bass.

Butch Brown is very meticulous duplicating prey colors with his lures and spent hundreds of hours studying variation of wild and hatchery raised rainbow trout under different lightning conditions. Various shades of green in the trouts back, size and number of dots, shades of coral pinks and silver white bellies. Like a taxidermist artist duplication a fish mount Butch creates life like lures.

Why go through all this studying, observation and detailed colors of prey if it doesn't matter. Because details do matter and the success of both Brown and Murphy clearly prove that color matters. Detail and color matter to me and are the key to my success.

None of you who debate color on this thread have spent more time bass fishing and successfully catching giant then I have. Butch Brown and the late Bill Murphy knew color is important and their success proves it.

You can ignor the facts or keep an open mind and experiment with colors to improve your bass fishing. You might learn there more choices then black and blue or green pumpkin. What you learn is bass can be unpredictable.

Tom

[Glaucus]

30 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

Why start with that?

 

That's what most start with when discussing color & is usually a reference to someone's color charts.

Because I have a thought that doesn't end at the first sentence? Read further and you'll see somebody's complete thought.

[Wurming67]

3 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said:

I agree your question is worded confusionally. 

My bad ,what I'm trying to say is do throw a certain color bait because you have confidence in that color or your throw a certain color because of the water is dark,stained,clear,murky etc..

[Wurming67]

This thread has taken a direction I didn't expect that's sad.I was just curious if some of you threw a certain colored bait because you just have a ton of confidence in it or you throw a certain color bait because of a certain water condition.Thats all?????

[Graham]

Yes.

 

All jokes aside, I believe color can be an important piece of the puzzle. That said I don’t believe it is always the most important piece. 

[Tennessee Boy]

1 hour ago, Wurming67 said:

This thread has taken a direction I didn't expect that's sad.I was just curious if some of you threw a certain colored bait because you just have a ton of confidence in it or you throw a certain color bait because of a certain water condition.Thats all?????

Thanks for starting the thread.  Anything that gets people thinking deeper about their fishing is a successful thread.  I enjoyed thinking about your question and reading everyone's responses.  Now I've got to go reorganize my plastics by water color.

[Wurming67]

9 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said:

Thanks for starting the thread.  Anything that gets people thinking deeper about their fishing is a successful thread.  I enjoyed thinking about your question and reading everyone's responses.  Now I've got to go reorganize my plastics by water color.

 I'm throwing white baits only from now on?

[Arcs&sparks]

2 hours ago, WRB said:

hatchery raised rainbow trout

There’s big bass in my local lake that probably feed on the smaller rainbows.  Here’s a couple of males I caught one night,  can you tell me which lure color I should choose? ?

[greentrout]

I'm just a simple humble basser with some wins and losses and color does matter...

 

 

 

[Catt]

2 hours ago, Glaucus said:

Because I have a thought that doesn't end at the first sentence? Read further and you'll see somebody's complete thought.

 

Don't get your panties in a wad!

 

I read & fully understand your thoughts but apparently ya can't see my point of  view!

 

@WRB here's an interesting read ?

 

https://m.bassmaster.com/tips/catch-biggest-bass-your-life

[WRB]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

 

Don't get your panties in a wad!

 

I read & fully understand your thoughts but apparently ya can't see my point of  view!

 

@WRB here's an interesting read ?

 

https://m.bassmaster.com/tips/catch-biggest-bass-your-life

Thanks,

Mike Long was a good trophy bass angler that got caught up the pressure to succeed. I agree with his lure choices;Jigs were good to me!

Tom

[A-Jay]

Always such a highly debated topic.   So many insightful responses. 

Like many have posted here, I've had situations where colored really seemed to matter and other's where it didn't appear that the color of the presentation was the major triggering factor.   

So does that mean color matters or does that mean it doesn't ?

 I honestly don't know.  

What I will say is that when I feel like I'm fishing "the right color" I definitely fish more confidently.  

When I feel confident, I believe I focus more, fish cleaner, and am willing to fish harder & longer to get bit - (#stubborn).

That can & often does equate to more or bigger bass and every once in a while - both. 

So in that sense, Color is important to me. 

I also know that when I've been doing well on a certain color, and I run out on the water, initially, I'm not feel too sporty about having my success continue.  Sometimes it does, often it does not.

Is that because of the color or my lack of confidence ?    I can't say. 

 All of this is one reason why I USED TO totally switch it up right in the middle of a bite to see if they'll eat something else.  I do Not do this any more.

You can probably guess why.

 

Good Topic

A-Jay

 

 

[Glaucus]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

 

Don't get your panties in a wad!

 

I read & fully understand your thoughts but apparently ya can't see my point of  view!

 

@WRB here's an interesting read ?

 

https://m.bassmaster.com/tips/catch-biggest-bass-your-life

My panties are fine.

 

Apparently you didn't understand my thoughts because you asked me a question about something I didn't say, as if I said it, and you're right, I can't understand your point of view because you didn't give me one.

[buzzbaiter83]

9 hours ago, Catt said:

 

Absolutely false, fish & crawfish in muddy off colored water will light to pale colors with washed out details. Fish & crawfish in clear water will have vibrant colors & details.

 

 

So natural colors don't work in dirtier water & darker colors don't work in clear water?

I think you misread that. I didn’t mean they were the same color to our eyes or even the fish’s eyes. I meant that they didn’t actually transform into a new colored version of themselves & fish are used to seeing & feeding on them in different colored water. 

[Troy85]

11 hours ago, Wurming67 said:

 I'm throwing white baits only from now on?

One color for all conditions?!?!?! Get out of here with that blasphemy!!!!!!  ?

 

[Wurming67]

3 hours ago, Troy1985s said:

One color for all conditions?!?!?! Get out of here with that blasphemy!!!!!!  ?

 

Just because ?

[fissure_man]

20 hours ago, Catt said:

 

Why start with that?

 

That's what most start with when discussing color & is usually a reference to someone's color charts.

 

@Catt why not start with that?  You need to start somewhere.

 

In your skepticism of color charts, are you endorsing a totally random approach? 

 

To me, starting from generally or locally accepted patterns (which may or may not be tabulated in a chart), and/or making selections based on personal experiences all seem like pretty reasonable approaches. 

 

[Catt]

25 minutes ago, fissure_man said:

 

@Catt why not start with that?  You need to start somewhere.

 

In your skepticism of color charts, are you endorsing a totally random approach? 

 

To me, starting from generally or locally accepted patterns (which may or may not be tabulated in a chart), and/or making selections based on personal experiences all seem like pretty reasonable approaches. 

 

 

I make my color selection based on my personal experience.

 

My experience tells me natural colors work in darker waters & darker colors work in clear waters.

 

If ya never throw it you'll never know it works!

 

One of the deadliest colors I throw in clear water (15-20') at night is called Starry Night, it is a clear worm with a translucent smoke on the back & tons of silver glitter. Had I followed generally or locally accepted patterns I wouldn't have found out how productive the worm is. 

 

Lot of guys talk as if they know how bass perceive colors, I prefer to have the bass tell me!

[Wurming67]

What baffles me is how good white works and I generally fish stained water and sometimes clear water.Main reason I use it cause I can see the fish eat it easier.

I just bought some baits I have really good success with in white and bought them in June bug and watermelon to test this theory.

[Dens228]

I'm no expert by any means but I can say that for me a Watermellon/Pearl laminate has caught 90% of my bass via plastics.  I've tried other colors and even when catching them on other colors if I switch to the above I still catch them. If I'm not catching anything and switch to the above I often start catching them. 

[Jig Man]

Well color mattered today.  We caught 46 bass with 14 of them being keepers.  We threw lots of different kinds of baits in lots of colors.  We caught fish on every color except JUNE BUG.  I had one tied on for about 3 hours.  I'd throw it for a few casts after we had caught something.  I never had any action of it at all.

 

So some times color matters.

[bassguytom]

On 6/6/2018 at 3:59 PM, Wurming67 said:

yes if u think the color u choose is confidence u have in that color or.no it has to do with color of situation.....

I don’t know man did my wife put you up to this??? Sometimes she will ask me a question that there is no right answer to and I always seem to get in trouble no matter how I answer. I’m going with my standard “whatever you thing is best honey”. ?