Shafter may get the shaft

[Way2slow]

My son bought a bad 1995 150 FastStrike from a marina.  I told him he was paying way too much for a bad motor but the shop assured him the motor had never had a wrench on it and it only had low compression.   Since I was going to rebuild it, all it was costing was machine work and wholesale parts which would offset some of the higher price he paid. 

I drove six hours picking the motor up and tore it down Saturday.  So much for a motor that had never had a wrench on it.  It had a replacement (different SN) powerhead, five cylinders were bored .020 over, #1 was .050 over, meaning it requires a new sleeve.

He tried contacting the seller but he would not respond back, so my son contacted Paypal about the guy misrepresenting motor.  Paypal frozehis account until it was settled and told my son to try working it out with the seller, so the guy finally contacted my son and basically told him tuff s***. 

Well, my son contacted Paypal again and they said he should receive a full refund by the 16th of Jun.  It seems when I picked the motor up, but it was paid for through Paypal, it was already paid for so I just loaded it and left.  Paypal does not allow that and the seller is required to provide Paypal documentation he shipped the motor as part of their seller protection plan.   There is no such document and paypal said without that he has no leg to stand on and they will provide a full refund.  I guess we will see who has the last laugh.

[jbsoonerfan]

So, you get your money back and return the motor I assume?????

[Way2slow]

Actually, Paypal just gives my son a refund with no stipulations about the motor.  Without the shipping documents, the seller broke their rules and they consider the motor as never being shipped, and my son not having it so the seller has no seller protection, even though my son told them we picked the motor up and his claim was for the false representation.

Now, even though the seller tried to pull a fast one and lied big time about the motor, my son tried to work out some a settlement which would have been more than fair for the seller, and him telling my son tuffs*** that's what you get buying a used motor, I think he will probably change his tune when Paypal pulls the money back.  Then I think he will be more willing to negotiate. 

However, this time I think the settlement will be a lot more in my son's favor.  After all, if we wanted to be a couple of low life's like him, we could just keep his motor and the money. Now it's like the Jolly Green Giant joke. When you have a big green ball in each hand, what do you have?  A dang good hold on the Jolly Green Giant.  Well, now my son has two big green balls in his hands.

 

 

[Sam]

Good luck.

 

Please let us know what happens.

[nick76]

Wow, some people just don't have a care in the world who they will take advantage of.  I had a similar situation a few years ago when I bought a camera lens for my digital camera.  Ordered it, paid for it, they shipped me a broken one and you could tell it had been opened and messed with when I got it.  Contacted the seller who told me it wasn't their fault I bought a bad lens and then they offered to ship me a different lens for an additional $100.  I politely commented that this felt like scam and that they did this on purpose, he replied, "We definitely know how to work the system and take suckers like you for as much as we can!".  I was furious as he hung up on me.  I immediately called my bank to see what my protections were as I had used my Visa Debit Card.  Come to find out there are a ton of protections available.  I simply had to jump through some hoops and 7 days later I had my money and he had signed unknowingly for the faulty lens he had shipped to me.  Lesson learned about a deal too good to be true. 

 

I hope this works out for your son and I hope he learns a good lesson like I did from this. 

[Way2slow]

Oh, I'm sure it's going to wind up in small claims court.  After several text messages back and forth between them and him telling my son don't text him anymore, he had nothing to discuss with him, my son has gotten fairly upset (the mild term I can post).  I guess the guy does not know Paypal has already assure my son he will be getting his money back because the seller violated their policies by not shipping it and having the shipping documents.  When my son told Paypal he had the motor, they asked it he got what the seller said it was and as described?  NO!, they said then he didn't get what he was supposed to have gotten so they left it that way.  

 My son say's after all the trouble and the shady dealings the seller is trying, instead of trying to get the guy into refunding him $500 that he was originally asking (actually he start off only wanting $250 to pay for the sleeve replacement), he's only going to offer him $500 for the motor.  I told my son to plan on making a trip to GA (he lives in south Texas) because I'm sure the guy is not going to going along with that.

I also reminded him of that thing called Carma.  I'm a firm believer in it, if you don't do what your gut feelings tells you is right, it 's going to come to bite you two fold somewhere down the road. 

 

 

[Bass Turd]

This is a great illustration on ALWAYS paying for goods and services thru PayPal. You do NOT have these protections if you are sending money to "family". I always volunteer to pay the extra 3% if the seller won't. It is insurance.

[Bluebasser86]

I just got through a similar ordeal except my seller never shipped and never responded to anything. I bought my wife a KitchenAide mixer for our anniversary and it never showed and the seller won't respond. I paid with Paypal and had no problems getting my money refunded after I opened a claim. Hopefully it works out for you as well.