Glaucus Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 I've been meaning to post this since I discovered it last weekend. I've never seen something like this before. Is it normal? So I noticed a knot was tied in my braided line (Power Pro). It appears to me that 2 batches (?) were connected. Would you trust this or cut it? Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted June 3, 2018 Global Moderator Posted June 3, 2018 It's a wind knot Somtimes it'll come out if you pull hard enough sometimes it won't. If not I'd retie Mike 1 Quote
papajoe222 Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 A wind knot for sure. Some believe that you don't get line twist using braid...........NOT! After you cut off, because I doubt that one will pull out, strip off 30yrds. of line. As you wind it back on to the reel, run it through a folded, wet dish rag keeping pressure on the line as you crank. Then, hang a heavy drop shot weight to the end of the line and let out as much line as you can without it hitting the floor. When the weight has stopped spinning, you've gotten the twist out of that section. The higher you can stand, the more line you'll get the twist out of. This should reduce the frequency of those knots, but using a swivel to connect your leader (if you use one) rather than a knot will all but eliminate them. Oh yea, flip your bail by hand. Don't use the reel handle to flip it for you. Every time you do, your adding twist whether you're using mono, fluoro, or braid. 1 Quote
Glaucus Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 I always flip my bail by hand. And the weird thing is - and you can't tell in the photo - is that it looks like a tag end. Quote
Super User Gundog Posted June 3, 2018 Super User Posted June 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Glaucus said: I always flip my bail by hand. And the weird thing is - and you can't tell in the photo - is that it looks like a tag end. Yea it looks that way but what it actually is is a twisted line with more line wrapped around it. Its all one piece but looks like it isn't. Its happened to me and I agree with @papajoe222 on how to untwist it. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted June 3, 2018 Super User Posted June 3, 2018 Having worked in processing of PE lines for a bit, I'll go with a joining knot that should have been caught and discarded during the automated spooling process. It doesn't look too deep in your spool; I'd cut the knot out. I always tied a much larger knot with longer tags so it wouldn't be missed... oe Quote
FrankN209 Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 Def a wind knot. I was getting a lot of them a few weeks ago in the wind on the delta. 1 Quote
Super User burrows Posted June 3, 2018 Super User Posted June 3, 2018 Wind knot cut it off or try and untie it. I would just cut it off. 1 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted June 3, 2018 Super User Posted June 3, 2018 I started getting these type knots on a more than decade old BPS reel. It was a "Viper" branded combo I bought for $70. It served well and the has been really good quality until recently. I've caught some big gals on it. This wind knot issue with braid just started early this season. I tried cutting off the knot and retying and later stripping the line and replacing with the same issue. I guess the line takeup spool on the reel bail seized. "Knot" sure. I just stopped using the reel and gave it to our small town version of Goodwill. Someone could probably use it for crappie trolling with mono. I replaced with a Pfleuger Trion reel I already had and problem is solved, so I know it was the reel. I always flip the bail by hand but the other end of the bail (away from line takeup) was getting loose too. It was going to fail me eventually and probably not on a dink. I don't have patience with worn out equipment anymore. If it happened on a new reel, I would suspect another culprit. Quote
dave Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 Being guides, my partner and I get hit with many a wind knot. Some can just be pulled out (customers think you're a magician) some are certainly cut and move on types of knots. He figured out (don't ask me how) developed a technique that believe it or not, works more often then you'd think. Put the knot in your teeth and start chewing the line. Once they get nice and wet, the fibers will flatten out and you can untie the knot. 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted June 3, 2018 Super User Posted June 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Glaucus said: So I noticed a knot was tied in my braided line (Power Pro). It appears to me that 2 batches (?) were connected. Would you trust this or cut it? Never trust an inline knot in braid. It cuts the straight line breaking strength of the line by as much as half. If you can't pull it out (or unknot it - see another recent thread on this subject), then definitely cut it out. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted June 4, 2018 Super User Posted June 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Team9nine said: Never trust an inline knot in braid. It cuts the straight line breaking strength of the line by as much as half. If you can't pull it out (or unknot it - see another recent thread on this subject), then definitely cut it out. Had to do this tonight when testing a "new/used" reel. Put time into attempting to pull a wind know out, but ended up snapping the line. Actually heard the "event" happening when casting in back yard. Resolved now, but your point is spot on. If can't unknot it, break it. 1 1 Quote
keagbassr Posted June 4, 2018 Posted June 4, 2018 I get these every so often. What I do is slip the tip of my needle nose pliers into the loop and try to pry open the loop a little. If the loop opens then just pull on both ends of the line and the knot should pop out. If the loop won't give I just cut and either retie or splice with a uni to uni knot. Also should have said wet the wind knot first. Quote
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