Nattyboh74 Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 I was wondering if anyone uses a snap swivel on this setups always. It seems like a nice addition to eliminate line twist maybe even adding extra action to the lure. Quote
Pro Logcatcher Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 I do not. I know there are other people on the forums that do, but I can tie a knot pretty speedy. Also, you might have to retie more than you think as your line gets abraded from rocks/trees/etc. 1 Quote
Super User tcbass Posted May 30, 2018 Super User Posted May 30, 2018 I always use Mustad KVD Fastach clips w/ swivels size #2.3 on my baitcasting rods. So that's permanently. They work great, snag less than regular swivel snaps, and are a lot stronger than regular swivel snaps. 2 Quote
moguy1973 Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 I use snaps without swivels on everything except my drop shot and Ned rig setups. 2 Quote
snake95 Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, Nattyboh74 said: I was wondering if anyone uses a snap swivel on this setups always. It seems like a nice addition to eliminate line twist maybe even adding extra action to the lure. If you search snap swivels you will be inundated with post after post of guys saying its a bad idea, except maybe for inline spinners. It inhibits the action of most lures. I used them as a kid a bit, but even back in the 80's we were discouraged from using them. The prevailing response you'll get is to learn to tie knots well. I want to emphasize what a good idea that is. With YouTube there are zillions of references on tying knots, and there are lots of great resources out there. I've been bass fishing hard for about 4 years, and I still enjoy experimenting with knots. Its just an essential skill for any angler and while lots of guys have their favorites, if you learn to tie several types, you will learn about what it is that makes a good knot good, and why different knots work better for different line types and diameters. Really suggest you make it a priority to get good with knots. I use snaps (no swivel) as do some other guys, when wanting to switch out crankbaits. You still need to re-tie periodically to get rid of abraded line and replace the knot throughout the day. 3 Quote
Nattyboh74 Posted May 30, 2018 Author Posted May 30, 2018 Thanks. I was more so concerned with line twist as you said 1 Quote
Super User tcbass Posted May 30, 2018 Super User Posted May 30, 2018 57 minutes ago, snake95 said: If you search snap swivels you will be inundated with post after post of guys saying its a bad idea, except maybe for inline spinners. It inhibits the action of most lures. I used them as a kid a bit, but even back in the 80's we were discouraged from using them. The prevailing response you'll get is to learn to tie knots well. I want to emphasize what a good idea that is. With YouTube there are zillions of references on tying knots, and there are lots of great resources out there. I've been bass fishing hard for about 4 years, and I still enjoy experimenting with knots. Its just an essential skill for any angler and while lots of guys have their favorites, if you learn to tie several types, you will learn about what it is that makes a good knot good, and why different knots work better for different line types and diameters. Really suggest you make it a priority to get good with knots. I use snaps (no swivel) as do some other guys, when wanting to switch out crankbaits. You still need to re-tie periodically to get rid of abraded line and replace the knot throughout the day. I can see how this can affect some lures action for sure like a walk the dog type lure. For that I just used the Mustad KVD Fastach and it always worked great. For lures like Whopper Ploppers, paddle tailed frogs, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, and other straight retrieve lures you’re probably fine. 1 Quote
FishDewd Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 I use a swivel with some lures... I'll use with a whopper plopper for two reasons: right now all I have is the 90 and it tends to sits nose up when paused. The swivel weight brings the nose down just a bit. Secondly, it case the tail gets gunk stuck between it and the body which will stop the tail rotation and form line twist when retrieving it in. I'll also use one for inline spinners that don't freely rotate. I have one that does well by itself, but another that will not rotate on its own. That one I add a swivel too. I used to use swivels on crankbaits but I no longer do that. I find that by using a loop knot through the eyelet they work a lot better. I never caught anything on crankbaits until I started doing that, now I am 3-2 bass/catfish on squarebills. Quote
mattkenzer Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 No snap swivels unless I throw an In-Line Spinner. I will use a barrel swivel 12"-24" up the line for a little added weight and line twist prevention on a few soft plastic techniques. 2 Quote
Super User Koz Posted May 30, 2018 Super User Posted May 30, 2018 I've mentioned before that I use both snaps and snap swivels because of my aging eyes and the fact that I bank fish and usually bring only one rod with me (we bike and walk from lagoon to lagoon). I have no empirical data that I catch more or less fish than tying directly. But I catch my fair share of fish and we land 4-6 pounders all year long using spinnerbaits, crankbaits, frogs, topwaters, jigs, T-rigs, and everything else that I want to throw. I prefer the convenience. 6 Quote
Super User Raul Posted May 30, 2018 Super User Posted May 30, 2018 “Permanently” —> No In-line spinners: snap/swivel combo Most crankbaits: snap C-rigs, pre rigged D-shot rigs: swivel Hooks, spinnerbaits, jigs/jigheads, walk the dog type baits: direct tie 1 1 Quote
blckshirt98 Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 I always have a quick snap of some sort attached - Norman Speed Clip or Decoy V-Snap. If I need to use a leader I'll use a swivel (usually smallest size Spro Power Swivel) and connect it to the quick snap. Quote
Bassun Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 For most presentations I direct tie. Carolina rigs always get a swivel, but no snap. If I'm fishing a three way, say for whisker kitties, etc. I use a three way swivel, but no snaps. However, my umbrellas all have swivel snaps on each lead. That said, I also use an improved clinch knot too often and would probably have better luck using snaps on cranks than tying a clinch lol. I have to think about it to even tie a Rapala knot instead lol. Quote
Mr. Aquarium Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 look up tactical angler clips, they are super fast and easy to put on lures also super strong. you can add a swivel to it and it will be so awesome. its all i use. i use it for saltwater as well as fresh seriously look them up if you never used them, theres a few different brands, called fast clips. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 31, 2018 Global Moderator Posted May 31, 2018 I use a snap sparingly, never a snap-swivel. Nothing I fish causes that much line twist that I have ever felt the need to add a snap-swivel. 2 Quote
RSmall Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 I use snaps without swivels on everything. As I've gotten older, I've become farsighted and tying knots throughout the day without reading glasses has become a major challenge. 2 Quote
Russ E Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 This is just my opinion. I do not use a snap swivel on anything. In the past I have lost nice fish because of snap failures. with all of the other variables in fishing, I don't want to add another failure point. I do use crane swivels on a Carolina rig. Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 31, 2018 Super User Posted May 31, 2018 Bass anglers tend to tie directly to hooks and may use are clip to attach some lures, snap swivels are rarely used. Trout anglers however use snap swivels more often to prevent line twist, different culture. For example the lake rig is the same as the Carolina rig with a snap swivel in lieu if a swivel. Tom 1 Quote
Super User tcbass Posted June 1, 2018 Super User Posted June 1, 2018 13 hours ago, Weedwhacker said: This is just my opinion. I do not use a snap swivel on anything. In the past I have lost nice fish because of snap failures. with all of the other variables in fishing, I don't want to add another failure point. I do use crane swivels on a Carolina rig. I lost a large musky bc of a snap swivel blowing apart. The Mustad Fastach Snaps are very strong. A lot stronger than regular snaps. Not sure how strong the ones with swivels are. Most likely considerably weaker. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted June 1, 2018 Super User Posted June 1, 2018 Anyone who blames a lost fish on a snap swivel or snap isn't being honest. I have horsed it 30 lb blue cats on a snap swivel. No bass is going to straighten out a snap swivel. I use the KVD duo lock on all my treble hook moving baits. Quote
Super User tcbass Posted June 1, 2018 Super User Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said: Anyone who blames a lost fish on a snap swivel or snap isn't being honest. I have horsed it 30 lb blue cats on a snap swivel. No bass is going to straighten out a snap swivel. I use the KVD duo lock on all my treble hook moving baits. Disagree. Caught a musky alongside my boat. I didn’t realized it was hooked and neither did it. It was just sitting there floating alongside the boat with my Ragetail Toad in it’s mouth. Friend went to net it and did it incorrectly going from the tail. The musky about a 20lber took off straight away and tore my swivel open. It was this kind of snap swivel. Quote
Super User Sam Posted June 1, 2018 Super User Posted June 1, 2018 Yes, but only on spinning rigs with light line for pond fishing Rooster Tails. Trying to reduce line twist. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 1, 2018 Super User Posted June 1, 2018 The snap is usually the weak link, not the swivel. If the snap isn't latched it will open. Tom 1 Quote
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