How do you replace the tip guide on a rod?

[EGbassing]

Recently, when I was fishing, I noticed that the very top guide on my white bird rod (from favorite rods) was broken. I just got the new tip in the mail, but I honestly have no idea how to put it on. Until I replace it, I'm stick using my old $40 combo.  Thanks in advance.

[Choporoz]

https://www.boatus.com/fishing/articles/replacing-your-rod-tips.asp

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2 hours ago, Choporoz said:

https://www.boatus.com/fishing/articles/replacing-your-rod-tips.asp

I tried that on one of my old rods and the tip just would not come off. I heated for much longer than you're supposed to, I pulled as hard as I could, it just didn't work. Thanks anyway though.

[d-camarena]

Just try it. Use heat, ive never had a problem

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Just now, d-camarena said:

Just try it. Use heat, ive never had a problem

I used heat, but it just didn't work. Sorry if that wasn't clear in my post before. 

[d-camarena]

Yes, i 100% undertood you tried it on a different rod. Now you should try it on this one. Maybe you will find it works this time around

[MickD]

If gentle heat did not work, it is because epoxy was used to hold it on.  Not a good idea as the temperature it takes to get the epoxy to fail is about the same as the temperature it takes to make the blank fail.  For you who said a little heat worked for you, yours was installed using some sort of hot melt, a much better way to install tiptops.  

 

EGbassing, I think you have three options 1. Keep trying to get the old one off with gentle heat and twisting and pulling and hope for the best, 2. Cut it off and put the new one on with hot melt (preferably one designed for rod building), or 3. Take it to an expert rod-builder/repairer and have him/her walk the tightrope between damaging the blank and getting the tiptop off.  Most have done it before and probably have a better chance of success than a person with no experience.  good luck.

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1 minute ago, MickD said:

If gentle heat did not work, it is because epoxy was used to hold it on.  Not a good idea as the temperature it takes to get the epoxy to fail is about the same as the temperature it takes to make the blank fail.  For you who said a little heat worked for you, yours was installed using some sort of hot melt, a much better way to install tiptops.  

 

EGbassing, I think you have three options 1. Keep trying to get the old one off with gentle heat and twisting and pulling and hope for the best, 2. Cut it off and put the new one on with hot melt (preferably one designed for rod building), or 3. Take it to an expert rod-builder/repairer and have him/her walk the tightrope between damaging the blank and getting the tiptop off.  Most have done it before and probably have a better chance of success than a person with no experience.  good luck.

Thanks. Would it help you determine whether it's epoxy or not if I posted a picture of it?

[d-camarena]

Did favorite send you the tip? You could call them or email to ask if they use melt or epoxy? If they use epoxy id take it to a rod builder. If hot melt than you could just apply a little heat

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14 minutes ago, d-camarena said:

Did favorite send you the tip? You could call them or email to ask if they use melt or epoxy? If they use epoxy id take it to a rod builder. If hot melt than you could just apply a little heat

I guess I'll try that. Thanks.

[WRB]

Depending on where the rod tip broke you may need a different size tip guide, slightly larger barrel ID. 

Rod repair for fixing a tip runs about $7.50 and it will done right.

Tom

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9 minutes ago, WRB said:

Depending on where the rod tip broke you may need a different size tip guide, slightly larger barrel ID. 

Rod repair for fixing a tip runs about $7.50 and it will done right.

Tom

Thanks. Do you know if Cabela's does it? 

[WRB]

7 minutes ago, EGbassing said:

Thanks. Do you know if Cabela's does it? 

You are better off going to a local tackle shop.

Tom

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2 minutes ago, WRB said:

You are better off going to a local tackle shop.

Tom

Well, Cabela's is the only tackle shop near me, so...

[MickD]

It is my understanding that the tip top, not the tip, broke.

 

You cannot tell by photo which material was used. But you'll know right away by applying a little heat (and tension at the same time).  Epoxy will not come off with gentle heat.

 

If you haven't tried it on this problem rod by now, do it.  You will hurt nothing if you add a few seconds of heat and pull at the same time.  If it comes, problem solved. If it does not take it to an expert.

There is a Lower Alabama Rod Builders group on Facebook,  with a contact number.

 

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2 hours ago, MickD said:

It is my understanding that the tip top, not the tip, broke.

 

You cannot tell by photo which material was used. But you'll know right away by applying a little heat (and tension at the same time).  Epoxy will not come off with gentle heat.

 

If you haven't tried it on this problem rod by now, do it.  You will hurt nothing if you add a few seconds of heat and pull at the same time.  If it comes, problem solved. If it does not take it to an expert.

There is a Lower Alabama Rod Builders group on Facebook,  with a contact number.

 

Ok, thanks. I'll look into that place on Facebook. 

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4 hours ago, MickD said:

It is my understanding that the tip top, not the tip, broke.

 

You cannot tell by photo which material was used. But you'll know right away by applying a little heat (and tension at the same time).  Epoxy will not come off with gentle heat.

 

If you haven't tried it on this problem rod by now, do it.  You will hurt nothing if you add a few seconds of heat and pull at the same time.  If it comes, problem solved. If it does not take it to an expert.

There is a Lower Alabama Rod Builders group on Facebook,  with a contact number.

 

Well, I just tried pulling it off and it just doesn't work. I'm afraid to keep trying because I really don't want to damage the rod with the heat.

[EGbassing]

Well, no-one near me repairs rod guides, so I tried to do it myself and I'm pretty sure I've already damaged the rod blank. That guide won't come off. I got that rod as a gift less than a month ago. ?

[Choporoz]

Not ideal fix, but if you're sure that the tip is shot, you can cut it off (immediately below guide tip) with a pair of diagonal cutters and then glue a new tip on.  I cut an inch off a $100 MHF rod and noticed little difference.  It doesn't handle lures at bottom of the weight ratings very well now, but otherwise functions pretty well.

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3 minutes ago, Choporoz said:

Not ideal fix, but if you're sure that the tip is shot, you can cut it off (immediately below guide tip) with a pair of diagonal cutters and then glue a new tip on.  I cut an inch off a $100 MHF rod and noticed little difference.  It doesn't handle lures at bottom of the weight ratings very well now, but otherwise functions pretty well.

I might have to try that. If I do have to just replace the rod though, do you think I should go with another baitcaster, or a spinning rod? It would be the only rod I use besides a back up baitcaster (abu garcia black max that I used to use) which I'm using right now. I've always thought that the kind of fishing done with spinning rods (i.e. light line, drop shot rigs, ned rigs, etc.) looked really fun.

[Choporoz]

I'm not going to touch that question.   Soooo many things that could be considered, when maybe the only consideration should be which you'd prefer to use.  Spinning doesn't have to mean finesse, either.   Maybe first you should decide what you want to throw most often - soft or hard; single or treble hooks; 1/16 or 3/4...etc.  No matter what you want to do, you can find a decent baitcasting rod, or spinning rod to handle the duties.

 

That broke rod does still have a reel, though, doesn't it?  Going with spinning would mean rod AND a reel, if you don't have one already.

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1 minute ago, Choporoz said:

I'm not going to touch that question.   Soooo many things that could be considered, when maybe the only consideration should be which you'd prefer to use.  Spinning doesn't have to mean finesse, either.   Maybe first you should decide what you want to throw most often - soft or hard; single or treble hooks; 1/16 or 3/4...etc.  No matter what you want to do, you can find a decent baitcasting rod, or spinning rod to handle the duties.

 

That broke rod does still have a reel, though, doesn't it?  Going with spinning would mean rod AND a reel, if you don't have one already.

Yeah, I'd kind of prefer a spinning rod, but I do have a decent baitcasting reel.