Reaction To On The Water Rudeness

[toni63]

If its serious enough, call law enforcement. In every other situation, let the fool act a fool and go your own way. You don't prove anything more than you are a fool if you go confronting people about how they are acting in public. If its bad, call a cop. If its just "you don't like it" then leave. You aren't the world's mommy and daddy.

[OCdockskipper]

2 hours ago, toni63 said:

...If its bad, call a cop. If its just "you don't like it" then leave. You aren't the world's mommy and daddy...

There is a lot of gray area between just leaving and the need to call the authorities.  Interactions with other people are not so simplistic and usually don't fall into either extreme.

 

Standing up for ones self is not "acting a fool" nor being "the worlds mommy & daddy".  In a society where you interact with hundreds if not thousands of people a day, there are norms to behavior that are important but fall outside the jurisdiction of the law.

 

For example, let's say a neighbor teenager toilet papers your house as a prank.  Do you ignore it and just clean it up yourself?  That invites the pranksters to do it again  Do you call the cops and have the kid hauled off to jail?  A little harsh response for a prank.  I would suggest the best solution would be go over to the kids house carrying a trash can, ring his doorbell and when he answers, have a big smile as you tell him "I need you to finish what you started".  Most kids will get a sheepish grin having been caught and will clean up after themselves.  You can even bring them out a soda as they are working and lend them a ladder to get to some of the higher spots.  By showing the kid respect but also that you will stand up for yourself, you gain his respect and he learns a lesson.

 

The best example in the fishing world was given by NHBull earlier in this thread.

[Stephen B]

2 hours ago, toni63 said:

If its serious enough, call law enforcement. In every other situation, let the fool act a fool and go your own way. You don't prove anything more than you are a fool if you go confronting people about how they are acting in public. If its bad, call a cop. If its just "you don't like it" then leave. You aren't the world's mommy and daddy.

By walking away/moving along you are being an enabler and essentially letting the behavior continue and putting others in harms way. Goodluck calling the cops when the conflict is already unfolding. In some situations, you must control the outcome not evade it. 

19 minutes ago, OCdockskipper said:

There is a lot of gray area between just leaving and the need to call the authorities.  Interactions with other people are not so simplistic and usually don't fall into either extreme.

 

Standing up for ones self is not "acting a fool" nor being "the worlds mommy & daddy".  In a society where you interact with hundreds if not thousands of people a day, there are norms to behavior that are important but fall outside the jurisdiction of the law.

Well said! 

 

 

[NYWayfarer]

23 hours ago, schplurg said:

Have there been a lot of shootings between these people? Are there any reports of fishermen being murdered while fishing from their boat?

Falcon Lake comes to mind. A Fisherman was shot and killed on that boarder lake.

[J Francho]

24 minutes ago, NYWayfarer said:

Falcon Lake comes to mind. A Fisherman was shot and killed on that boarder lake.

I don't think that was over s fishing spot.

[toni63]

1 hour ago, OCdockskipper said:

There is a lot of gray area between just leaving and the need to call the authorities.  Interactions with other people are not so simplistic and usually don't fall into either extreme.

 

Standing up for ones self is not "acting a fool" nor being "the worlds mommy & daddy".  In a society where you interact with hundreds if not thousands of people a day, there are norms to behavior that are important but fall outside the jurisdiction of the law.

 

For example, let's say a neighbor teenager toilet papers your house as a prank.  Do you ignore it and just clean it up yourself?  That invites the pranksters to do it again  Do you call the cops and have the kid hauled off to jail?  A little harsh response for a prank.  I would suggest the best solution would be go over to the kids house carrying a trash can, ring his doorbell and when he answers, have a big smile as you tell him "I need you to finish what you started".  Most kids will get a sheepish grin having been caught and will clean up after themselves.  You can even bring them out a soda as they are working and lend them a ladder to get to some of the higher spots.  By showing the kid respect but also that you will stand up for yourself, you gain his respect and he learns a lesson.

 

The best example in the fishing world was given by NHBull earlier in this thread.

 

I probably should have phrased it "I don't think I am everyone else's  Mommy and Daddy." I just deleted the rest of what I had posted because I really don't care.

 

Have a great weekend.

[Daryl Wideman]

6 hours ago, toni63 said:

 

I probably should have phrased it "I don't think I am everyone else's  Mommy and Daddy." I just deleted the rest of what I had posted because I really don't care.

 

Have a great weekend.

 

6 hours ago, toni63 said:

 

I probably should have phrased it "I don't think I am everyone else's  Mommy and Daddy." I just deleted the rest of what I had posted because I really don't care.

 

Have a great weekend.

Sounds like you just don't like people. If you didn't care you could have just left it alone.

[toni63]

Ok. I take your point, if I could care less I could have just ignored this whole thread. But I see a trend on this forum of more and more threads popping up griping about what other people do, so I figured I'd stick my two cents in and say maybe just avoiding them might be better for you.

 

What I do notice is people who tend to think its their job to show other people how to act generally don't like it when someone else tells them they could be wrong. And they don't see the irony. 

 

And you know what? I could be wrong on all that too.

 

 

[BassNJake]

33 minutes ago, toni63 said:

But I see a trend on this forum of more and more threads popping up griping about what other people do, so I figured I'd stick my two cents in ... And they don't see the irony. 

 

 

 

 

 

[NYWayfarer]

17 hours ago, J Francho said:

I don't think that was over s fishing spot.

I was answering the second question he had, "Are there any reports of fishermen being murdered while fishing from their boat?"

 

I should have quoted that line only. Sorry.

[toni63]

1 hour ago, BassNJake said:

 

Judas went from that place to another and hung himself.

And Jesus said, "Go and do likewise."

 

Cherry picking a text and putting sentences together out of context proves nothing. But if it amuses you, feel free.

[Pro Logcatcher]

hey y'all keep it civil  if someone takes my spot I say you're welcome to it. I know I'm the better man for going and most likely I'm the better fisherman too  

[toni63]

19 hours ago, OCdockskipper said:

There is a lot of area to fall into either extreme.

 

For example, let's say a neighbor toilet papers the cops. I would tell him "I need you to finish what you started".  Most will get a ladder. By showing the kid you stand up, he learns a lesson.

 

The best was earlier. 

Sorry Oc, I couldn't resist... lol

[OCdockskipper]

44 minutes ago, toni63 said:

Sorry Oc, I couldn't resist... lol

No problem, but I think you missed the point @BassNJake made.

 

While recommending others to stop telling people what to do, you told people what to do.  That was the irony & it didn't take any cherry picking to reveal it.

[toni63]

OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Was THAT what he was doing????????

 

Want to know the real IRONY? My point is not to waste your time with a fool and yet silly me, here I am........

 

So I guess I should take my own advice at this point. 

 

Have a really fantastic weekend.

 

 

[DINK WHISPERER]

The pettiness is strong in this one. 

[Stephen B]

42 minutes ago, toni63 said:

So I guess I should take my own advice at this point. 

 

Have a really fantastic weekend.

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[OCdockskipper]

44 minutes ago, toni63 said:

Was THAT what he was doing????????

Hey, sorry if you were offended, by your post it appeared the point went right over your head.  If you understood it the first time through, wonderful, here is a cookie.

 

There really is no reason for you to be so upset or call people names, we were just discussing a topic.  If you still don't agree with me or others following the discussion, thats fine.  While I may disagree with your point 100%, I am not interested in ridiculing you for having it.  I'll post why I disagree with it, but that doesn't mean it bothers me if you disregard my points in forming your opinion.

[Big Rick]

I really appreciate how the mods, for the most part, allow a discussion to get a bit heated and not delete everything. It's a bit refreshing not to have the social media police projecting their point of view by removing opposing views and opinions. 

 

OP, rest easy. Hunting season opens in most of the country over the next few days and the lakes will empty. However, the fishing will get better and better while you have the lake mostly to yourself. 

[J Francho]

Y'all acting like a bunch children.  You can go to your time out corner, and sit in the chair.  I'm closing this one in the meantime.  Nice work fellas.