Hook sets

[iiTzChunky]

I'm determined to get better at jig fishing this year. I worked on my pitching last year so I'm still working on it now, but I've got 2 fish so far on the jig, but both have thrown my hook set when I go to flip em. Am I just not setting the hook well enough for a jig? 

[Russ E]

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/hook-set-jig.html

 

I have done this for years. It does work.

[iiTzChunky]

4 minutes ago, Weedwhacker said:

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/hook-set-jig.html

 

I have done this for years. It does work.

Ah ok, makes sense now. I'm sure that's exactly what I'm doing. Will be testing this out the next couple night. Thanks bud. 

[WRB]

You rod, line and most important your hook all combine to perform solid hook sets. 

Glenn defines the snap set into slight slack line and very effective for short line presentations like pitchin or flipping with compact design heavy cover jigs.

Also look at Hackneys hook set technique, this is what I call the reel set, very effective for more horizontal casting jig presentations.

What rod, line and jig are you using?

Tom

[iiTzChunky]

7 hours ago, WRB said:

You rod, line and most important your hook all combine to perform solid hook sets. 

Glenn defines the snap set into slight slack line and very effective for short line presentations like pitchin or flipping with compact design heavy cover jigs.

Also look at Hackneys hook set technique, this is what I call the reel set, very effective for more horizontal casting jig presentations.

What rod, line and jig are you using?

Tom

Using the only rod n reel I have. 6'6 med heavy rod with 50# braid for all the nasty stuff I fish through, jigs are 3/8-1/2oz jigs from strike King I've picked up from Walmart to start 

[WRB]

So we have a generic MH bass rod with 50 lb braid and baitcasting reel (?).

Jigs you get what you pay for, discount store hooks. So let's start with sharpening the hook point so it's needle sharp ans scratches your thumb nail with ease. Can't set a dull hook! I believe the dull hook combined still weed guard negates your hook set technique.

Braid should work with the MH rod regardless of action or power using the snap set if the hook set with a sharpened hook.

Jigs are a lure that is only as good as the hook used to make it.

Tom

[papajoe222]

I'm not a big fan of landing fish by flipping or swinging them aboard and this is one of the reasons why. If the fish is lip hooked, it's likely worked an opening during the fight and most guys drop their rod tip just prior to swinging in a fish. That throws slack into the line the same as when a fish jumps. End result is the occasional lost fish.

[Catt]

Just a dumb Cajun’s observation ?

 

Wally World sells two Strike King jigs; Bitsy Bug/Flip or Denny Brauer Premier Pro Model Jig. Both models feature premium Mustad hooks & have above average weed guards. Having thrown both  of these jigs I highly doubt they are your problem!

 

It is very easy to blame equipment for our problems, when I’m missing fish the first I do is look in a mirror!

 

Early strike detection is essential to solid hookups regardless of equipment used.

 

[mattkenzer]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

Early strike detection is essential to solid hookups regardless of equipment used.

Exactly, and that is why wind equals weight.

You have to stay in contact with your lure or at least inches (not feet) from contact on slack line.

 

Gut hook fish and/or short hook ups are usually a result of late strike detection or waiting too long to set the hook.

As the old saying goes, when in doubt "Set the Hook, There Free"!

[iiTzChunky]

10 hours ago, WRB said:

So we have a generic MH bass rod with 50 lb braid and baitcasting reel (?).

Jigs you get what you pay for, discount store hooks. So let's start with sharpening the hook point so it's needle sharp ans scratches your thumb nail with ease. Can't set a dull hook! I believe the dull hook combined still weed guard negates your hook set technique.

Braid should work with the MH rod regardless of action or power using the snap set if the hook set with a sharpened hook.

Jigs are a lure that is only as good as the hook used to make it.

Tom

Yea, I dont think it's the hook, they seem pretty good. I think I was keeping to much tension on the line when trying to set the hook. 

 

7 hours ago, papajoe222 said:

I'm not a big fan of landing fish by flipping or swinging them aboard and this is one of the reasons why. If the fish is lip hooked, it's likely worked an opening during the fight and most guys drop their rod tip just prior to swinging in a fish. That throws slack into the line the same as when a fish jumps. End result is the occasional lost fish.

I'm really not either, but most the places where I fish don't allow me get to close to the water without walking through about 2 ft of grass, not really trying to do that in snake country if I can help it. I'll take a lost fish over a snake bite every single  day. 

[WRB]

You ignor the hook sharpness you will miss detecting a lot of strikes. Strike detection is the first thing that needs to happen, hook sets come next.

LMB strike a jig by engulfing it, vacuum into their big mouth then tightly close down on it to kill it. The bass has crunchers located at the back of the roof of the mouth and that is where you jig is most of the time during the initial strike. The bass either keeps it in their mouth or rejects it. If they keep it you easily detect that strike and get a shot at a hook set. If the bass rejects it and the hook doesn't find soft tissue to stick into, you miss that strike. Sharp hook sticks tissue, dull hooks don't.

Tom

[WRB]

If you are a shore angler fishing jigs you are rarely going to get a verticle hook set, most will be horizontal because you are casting to the bass and standing on shore, not above them in a boat.

Tom

[Catt]

24 minutes ago, WRB said:

You ignor the hook sharpness you will miss detecting a lot of strikes.

 

 

 

[A-Jay]

On 5/27/2018 at 10:50 AM, iiTzChunky said:

I'm determined to get better at jig fishing this year. I worked on my pitching last year so I'm still working on it now, but I've got 2 fish so far on the jig, but both have thrown my hook set when I go to flip em. Am I just not setting the hook well enough for a jig? 

A-Jay

[iiTzChunky]

On 5/28/2018 at 11:11 AM, WRB said:

If you are a shore angler fishing jigs you are rarely going to get a verticle hook set, most will be horizontal because you are casting to the bass and standing on shore, not above them in a boat.

Tom

IT is gonna be harder to get a good hook set while bank fishing but it's the only way I have to fish and I'm not gonna pass up learning new techniques because it's gonna be a little more difficult. I'll just work harder at getting better at it.