Capt.Bob Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 23 hours ago, A-Jay said: The current Two Stroke has just over a hundred hours on it - A full year left on the all inclusive factory warranty and looks brand new. While still having an almost a cult following, the big two strokes Mercs are No Longer made. Additionally, the funds expended on this new motor will be about the same as what I'd need to spend on an 'extended warranty' for a three year old motor. Instead, I get a brand new unit. Finally, although I'm still waiting to hear back, but I think these new motors come with a 6 years factory warranty. Either way, all that seems to make it a pretty good time to re-power. As for speed, I'm running @58 mph WOT, but I don't really race anyone. No clue what the new motor will do, perhaps at least what I'm getting now, but I'm expecting it to be quite a bit more fuel efficient. A-Jay Good luck with the new power plant A-Jay! I think this sounds like a well thought out plan, and only makes sence, as the current motor will take a big hit off warranty cash wise, and with 6 years not worrying about maintenance cost's, if a gut can afford it it sounds like the is=deal thing to do, as well as the 4 stroke with same weight, win win! But like you I would not care about top end speed, hell it is going to be more than I would use, but what I do care about more than speed, is fuel economy! That alone is worth 5 or 6 mph to me. Enjoy the upgrade!! 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 4, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 4, 2018 New Motor's a Go ~ Order went in this morning. Expected delivery date is 1 August. A day to mount & rig it on the Pro-V Bass and I'll ready for the Fall Bite. Pumped. A-Jay 3 Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 4, 2018 Super User Posted June 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, A-Jay said: New Motor's a Go ~ Order went in this morning. Expected delivery date is 1 August. A day to mount & rig it on the Pro-V Bass and I'll ready for the Fall Bite. Pumped. A-Jay We expect step by step video of the install, break-in and evaluation process. Detailed performance reports with graphs, tables and perhaps a spreadsheet devoted to MPH vs. MPG with several different propellers. An interview with each member of the install crew, plus a deep thoughtful retrospective on the retirement of the Otpi is also indicated, possibly multi-part released over several days. ? ...this is a cool project. Ignore all that idiocy and have fun with it. 3 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 4, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Further North said: We expect step by step video of the install, break-in and evaluation process. Detailed performance reports with graphs, tables and perhaps a spreadsheet devoted to MPH vs. MPG with several different propellers. An interview with each member of the install crew, plus a deep thoughtful retrospective on the retirement of the Otpi is also indicated, possibly multi-part released over several days. ? ...this is a cool project. Ignore all that idiocy and have fun with it. Don't tempt me - you know I'll do it Since I'll still be running the Opti between now & trading it in - I'll be 'babying it' Big Time. Might even drive 30 mph in the break down lane with the flashers on . . . Just to be safe. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 7, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 7, 2018 Dealer called today. Delivery date was 'updated' by Mercury Marine this morning. "18 Weeks" is the word I'm getting now. Pushes it back into October . . . Hoping to get a least a couple of weeks to run it & get the prop right before hard water. Glad I ordered it quickly, any hesitation may have had me waiting until 2019 . . . . A-Jay Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 7, 2018 Super User Posted June 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, A-Jay said: "18 Weeks" is the word I'm getting now. Jeez.... Gonna be cold in October... ? 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 7, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 7, 2018 50 minutes ago, Further North said: Jeez.... Gonna be cold in October... ? Yea - I hear ya. I'm booked to head south of the border again right about that time as well. Might work out where they can mount the new motor & rig it up while I'm hooking Mutant green bass and sipping Margarita's. Then I can run it around when it get back for a couple of weeks before putting her up for the season. Plenty can change between now & then so we'll play it as it comes. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 7, 2018 Super User Posted June 7, 2018 3 hours ago, A-Jay said: Yea - I hear ya. I'm booked to head south of the border again right about that time as well. Might work out where they can mount the new motor & rig it up while I'm hooking Mutant green bass and sipping Margarita's. Then I can run it around when it get back for a couple of weeks before putting her up for the season. Plenty can change between now & then so we'll play it as it comes. A-Jay It'd be cool if it worked out that way. My faith in sales-reported manufacturing schedules, based on 35 years of dealing with Sales Gomers 'n' Goobers making promises we couldn't keep, is about zero... I Hope you're dealing with someone who's been dosed with reality. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 8, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Further North said: It'd be cool if it worked out that way. My faith in sales-reported manufacturing schedules, based on 35 years of dealing with Sales Gomers 'n' Goobers making promises we couldn't keep, is about zero... I Hope you're dealing with someone who's been dosed with reality. Thanks ~ Me too. A-Jay Quote
Super User slonezp Posted June 8, 2018 Super User Posted June 8, 2018 6 hours ago, A-Jay said: Yea - I hear ya. I'm booked to head south of the border again right about that time as well. Might work out where they can mount the new motor & rig it up while I'm hooking Mutant green bass and sipping Margarita's. Then I can run it around when it get back for a couple of weeks before putting her up for the season. Plenty can change between now & then so we'll play it as it comes. A-Jay I'd bet @12poundbass would do you a solid and break her in for you. 2 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 8, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, slonezp said: I'd bet @12poundbass would do you a solid and break her in for you. By all accounts he is that kind of guy ~ A-Jay 3 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted June 8, 2018 Global Moderator Posted June 8, 2018 7 hours ago, slonezp said: I'd bet @12poundbass would do you a solid and break her in for you. 6 hours ago, A-Jay said: By all accounts he is that kind of guy ~ A-Jay I could probably work this into my busy schedule. I'm willing to bet two things would happen..... 1: @A-Jay gets back his finger nails are chewed down to nothing 2: the whole time I'm on the water there's a white and orange helicopter hovering 50' about my head with a camera pointed right at me. ? 2 3 Quote
bassinrobert54 Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 A-Jay,With the new motor being 505 lbs. and the talons ? [I'm quessing 200lbs apiece with the plates to mount to the transom with the tilt bracket the weight would come out to 900lbs.]What is the weight restriction on the transom,any idea. Bob Galloway Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 18, 2018 Super User Posted June 18, 2018 The shipping weight of a 12' Talon is 60 lbs. and the bracket is less than 25 lbs. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted June 18, 2018 Super User Posted June 18, 2018 3 hours ago, bassinrobert54 said: A-Jay,With the new motor being 505 lbs. and the talons ? [I'm quessing 200lbs apiece with the plates to mount to the transom with the tilt bracket the weight would come out to 900lbs.]What is the weight restriction on the transom,any idea. Bob Galloway I dont know about transom ratings on A-jay's hull but my Lund transom is rated for 950lbs Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 18, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 18, 2018 4 hours ago, bassinrobert54 said: A-Jay,With the new motor being 505 lbs. and the talons ? [I'm quessing 200lbs apiece with the plates to mount to the transom with the tilt bracket the weight would come out to 900lbs.]What is the weight restriction on the transom,any idea. Bob Galloway Hi Bob ~ That 505 lbs is what the 200 Opti that's on there now weighs in at - so no difference there. The Talons are really quite 'light' - the extendable poles are fiberglass, the case is basally plastic and the mounts & internal framing is aluminum - Don't know what the exact weight of each is but I'd put it close to perhaps 55 lbs or so. The Pro-V's composite transom and 96 inch beam seems to be able to support what's there well. And in an interesting turn of events - there is some serious consideration being made to ADDING a hydraulic jack plate to the mix. With the new motor going on, seems like a perfect time. The SeaStar Xtreme Jackplate Hydraulic Jackplate 6” ~ Seems to be where we're headed. http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SeaStar-XtremeJackplates-DataSheet.pdf Since I'm currently running SeaStar Steering, this one is designed to maximize engine tilt when used with SeaStar steering cylinders. More to follow . . . . A-Jay 2 Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 19, 2018 Super User Posted June 19, 2018 2 hours ago, A-Jay said: And in an interesting turn of events - there is some serious consideration being made to ADDING a hydraulic jack plate to the mix. With the new motor going on, seems like a perfect time. The SeaStar Xtreme Jackplate Hydraulic Jackplate 6” ~ Seems to be where we're headed. http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SeaStar-XtremeJackplates-DataSheet.pdf Since I'm currently running SeaStar Steering, this one is designed to maximize engine tilt when used with SeaStar steering cylinders. I'm very interested in how this turns out. I've toyed with the idea for years...but everything works so well now that I'm just not inclined to mess with it. I'd have to be pretty sure I'd see serious improvement, or get some other quantifiable benefit to spend the money. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 19, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, Further North said: I'm very interested in how this turns out. I've toyed with the idea for years...but everything works so well now that I'm just not inclined to mess with it. I'd have to be pretty sure I'd see serious improvement, or get some other quantifiable benefit to spend the money. You & me both ~ It SO easy to go a little nuts ($) - between wanting to upgrade to mega imaging, an Ultrex, a new motor, and now perhaps a Jack plate . . . . . I might have to go back to work . . . .Naaah. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 19, 2018 Super User Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, A-Jay said: I might have to go back to work Bad A-Jay! Bad! 3 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 19, 2018 Super User Posted June 19, 2018 A 6" set back? That's cute. Mine's 15". 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 19, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 19, 2018 4 hours ago, J Francho said: A 6" set back? That's cute. Mine's 15". Always quick with support J. Thanks I appreciate it. A-Jay 2 Quote
Mainthrust Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 I’m very interested in the out come on this. I just got 1875 pro v bass in April it has the 150 on it. Installing a atlas jp and hydraulic steering on it in a few weeks. I got killer deal on the boat it was a left over. But I really want a 200 on it. I’m like you do I need a 200hp no but I do want it. A-jay I’m new to the site not sure how to pm someone. If you could pm me on a number of what that 200 is gonna cost roughly. I really want a g2 but it’s gonna cost a lot more to rig 1 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted June 27, 2018 Super User Posted June 27, 2018 A-Jay, I’ve been reading this thread with interest. I’m quite happy with my current motor, but there’s a glimmer of a thought to switch out to the new XS. Cost and no burning reason to switch out are factors. Sometime we’ll have to catch up and compare notes on your trade-out experience... still loving my PVB!! 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted June 28, 2018 Global Moderator Posted June 28, 2018 Vroom vroom!!!! My merc 4 stroke has been reliable when I can keep a gearcase on it....... 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 28, 2018 Author Super User Posted June 28, 2018 14 hours ago, Mainthrust said: I’m very interested in the out come on this. I just got 1875 pro v bass in April it has the 150 on it. Installing a atlas jp and hydraulic steering on it in a few weeks. I got killer deal on the boat it was a left over. But I really want a 200 on it. I’m like you do I need a 200hp no but I do want it. A-jay I’m new to the site not sure how to pm someone. If you could pm me on a number of what that 200 is gonna cost roughly. I really want a g2 but it’s gonna cost a lot more to rig Hello and Welcome to Bass Resource ~ I'm sending you a PM A-Jay 1 Quote
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