Would you be annoyed or am I a jerk?

[Ksam1234]

So I’m wondering if I’m a jerk or just think old school and people should take it upon themselves eventually to learn. Wondering everyone’s opinion of this, so I have a friend who we both started fishing at the same time. We have been bass fishing for about 2 1/2 years now. I did tons of research, bought books, joined this awesome site, YouTube and just spent tons and tons of time on the water to learn as

much as I can. So we go fishing together and every time we go he is the exact same as day 1 fishing 2 1/2 years ago.. he asks what to use, what color, what do you think they want, why am I not catching them. Will tie on 5 baits in 30 minutes and if he doesn’t get a fish he gets mad. I have given him books , told him about this sight and have told him every time we go out about fish. Like today it was dead flat, post front and he was trying to rip as fast as he can lipless cranks etc. told him to try a black and blue senko and let it sit , i told and showed him how to rig them .. instead he uses a different hook and threads it on like it was live bait all bunched up and tosses it out waits 2 seconds then starts hopping it back ... and wonders why he doesn’t catch fish. I have shown him about as much as I can and every time we go on the water it’s the same so I was going to tell him to learn so he can get better himself, is that mean ?

[gim]

Haha.  Sometimes you can hold the hand only so long, my friend.  You can lead the horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

[Ksam1234]

8 minutes ago, gimruis said:

Haha.  Sometimes you can hold the hand only so long, my friend.  You can lead the horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Yeah I feel bad sometimes bc I’ll say something like “ well what do you think you tell me” then he just looks at me like uuuuuuhhhhh 

[MassYak85]

There are two types of fisherman...those that enjoy fishing, and those that enjoy catching. 

[Mr Swim Jig]

That is a tough situation and one I find myself in with a friend of mine quite often.  He doesn't listen and like your friend he doesn't try to learn on his own.  It is very frustrating, so I feel your pain, it is a tough situation to be in.  I try my best to be as helpful as possible every time we go out, but sometimes you just have enough.

 

Luckily my wife has really started to enjoy fishing and listens and most of the time out catches me witch makes me mad and makes me want to take my friend out fishing...lol

 

I still take him fishing and I still try and be as helpful as possible and sometimes I do snap at him and then I feel bad and apologize. But I definitely don't go fishing with him near as much as I use to and I feel bad about that as well.  So it is kinda like a catch 22 situation...you either just grin and bear it or you just stop taking him fishing and that part is probably tougher then just grinning and bearing it...

[CroakHunter]

What does it matter if he catches fish or not? More for you to catch.  

[frosty]

I can understand the frustration when people act like that but it’s only fishing. I wouldn’t get my blood pressure up over it, just say whatever you want to do and continue catching fish. 

[NHBull]

Can’t fix stupid

[Ksam1234]

27 minutes ago, CroakHunter said:

What does it matter if he catches fish or not? More for you to catch.  

It doesn’t matter but we both go in a canoe since we don’t have a boat and I want him to have fun. He starts getting mad when I catch fish and he says he wants to leave. Or he comes over to me and stops me from fishing and asks how to do this or that. Or he gets a backlash and can’t get it out so I have to etc .. I don’t rly get my blood pressure up I just want him to have fun and enjoy it instead of getting mad and wanting to leave bc “there’s no fish “

[BuzzHudson19c]

I openly admit to my friends that I am an a-hole when it comes to fishing. It's one of the only things I am passionate about. But I warn would be fishing buddies ahead of time,"This is how it's going to be. We are going fishing at 4:30 am. If you aren't at the launch by then, I'm leaving without you. Bring what you need, don't rely on the kindness of others. We will be out for a long time. Don't complain that it's hot. Don't complain about the wind. Don't complain about the bugs. Don't complain."

 

When it comes to lures and techniques. I will openly share what I'm doing with my buddies. I don't like to critique others but there have been times where, like you said, I have watched another fisherman ripping a bait back in after it being in the water 5 seconds and I just went and said it, "Dude, slow the fudge down!" Be honest with him. You will probably both be better off for it.

[AC870]

Cut him loose until he grows up. 

[shovelmouth83]

1 hour ago, gimruis said:

Haha.  Sometimes you can hold the hand only so long, my friend.  You can lead the horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

iy is true i know the feeling. you can only go so far. i am the same way.

[Ksam1234]

4 minutes ago, BuzzHudson19c said:

I openly admit to my friends that I am an a-hole when it comes to fishing. It's one of the only things I am passionate about. But I warn would be fishing buddies ahead of time,"This is how it's going to be. We are going fishing at 4:30 am. If you aren't at the launch by then, I'm leaving without you. Bring what you need, don't rely on the kindness of others. We will be out for a long time. Don't complain that it's hot. Don't complain about the wind. Don't complain about the bugs. Don't complain."

 

When it comes to lures and techniques. I will openly share what I'm doing with my buddies. I don't like to critique others but there have been times where, like you said, I have watched another fisherman ripping a bait back in after it being in the water 5 seconds and I just went and said it, "Dude, slow the fudge down!" Be honest with him. You will probably both be better off for it.

You sound exactly like me haha, I am always out in the summer around 5 am and he says “oh I’ll meet you there we can get that early morning topwater bite” around 11:00 am he shows up ha .. I guess I can give it a laugh now and chuckle about it

[jbmaine]

My ex FIL was the nicest guy but numb as a fence post. I used to take him fishing and no matter how much tackle I bought him for birthdays/ fathers day etc. he would always forget it and ask to borrow mine. I had to grit my teeth more than once with him.

[Angry John]

Maybe taking the time to show him the ropes wile off the water and discussing you plan on the way to the lake may reduce your fustration.  He might learn a different way, who knows.  But he is a friend and there must be a reason so try and be a good friend back.  "Says the guy with angry in his screen name"

[Ksam1234]

6 minutes ago, Angry John said:

Maybe taking the time to show him the ropes wile off the water and discussing you plan on the way to the lake may reduce your fustration.  He might learn a different way, who knows.  But he is a friend and there must be a reason so try and be a good friend back.  "Says the guy with angry in his screen name"

Yeah I try my best, I did help him catch his PB bass the other day , 4 pound 7 oz smallmouth so that was fun to watch

[All about da bass]

He sounds really stubborn, my dad is the same way. He is JUST like that.

[Darren.]

Boy, I do not envy you. My fishing buddy would ask me

questions for the first year or two, then he grew on his

own and started going and killing it without me.

 

We are no longer friends...LOL Just kidding, we just no

longer fish together.

 

I prefer going it alone or with my boys (sons). It frustrated

me to no end one night last week when I took out son

#3 and showed him how I love to drop shot in a particular

spot.... I started hooking up, a 5 pounder, a 4 and a 3.5

not to mention the sub 3s I caught. It killed me that he was

not catching so I stopped and gave him what I was using.

 

He had two hookups but didn't get to bring them home.

 

My kids I don't mind, so long as they absorb what I teach.

Others? Change the times you go out to fish, LOL.  

[Kjruiz]

1 hour ago, Ksam1234 said:

So I’m wondering if I’m an As$hole or just think old school and people should take it upon themselves eventually to learn. Wondering everyone’s opinion of this, so I have a friend who we both started fishing at the same time. We have been bass fishing for about 2 1/2 years now. I did tons of research, bought books, joined this awesome site, YouTube and just spent tons and tons of time on the water to learn as

much as I can. So we go fishing together and every time we go he is the exact same as day 1 fishing 2 1/2 years ago.. he asks what to use, what color, what do you think they want, why am I not catching them. Will tie on 5 baits in 30 minutes and if he doesn’t get a fish he gets mad. I have given him books , told him about this sight and have told him every time we go out about fish. Like today it was dead flat, post front and he was trying to rip as fast as he can lipless cranks etc. told him to try a black and blue senko and let it sit , i told and showed him how to rig them .. instead he uses a different hook and threads it on like it was live bait all bunched up and tosses it out waits 2 seconds then starts hopping it back ... and wonders why he doesn’t catch fish. I have shown him about as much as I can and every time we go on the water it’s the same so I was going to tell him to learn so he can get better himself, is that mean ?

What’s the top two books you would recommend?

 

i don’t think it’s fair to you that you put the work in and now have to have someone grabbing your coattails. 

[Ksam1234]

10 minutes ago, Kjruiz said:

What’s the top two books you would recommend?

 

i don’t think it’s fair to you that you put the work in and now have to have someone grabbing your coattails. 

I gave him an informative fisherman book and some random book I got at local bargain store but it was rly good, talked about the seasonal habits, pre spawn, spawn and post spawn.   Which baits to throw depending on water color and temp etc , even shows how to tie knots but I can’t remmeber the name 

[basswrangler83]

He should watch Bass Resource's YouTube channel. I know exactly how you feel when someone doesn't take the initiative to help themselves. 

[Falkus]

People would ask me where the fishes are ...

Im like, "so you want me to tell you everything and then you take all the glory" 

 

I dont think so

[Ksam1234]

15 minutes ago, Burke said:

People would ask me where the fishes are ...

Im like, "so you want me to tell you everything and then you take all the glory" 

 

I dont think so

Yeah I feel ya 

[LionHeart]

You said he's your friend right?  Stay at it.

[Catt]

8 minutes ago, LionHeart said:

You said he's your friend right?  Stay at it.

 

Which is more important

Fishing or friendships?

 

 Not everyone shares the same enthusiasm ?