Rod & Reel setup for small-med swimbaits and flipping?

[Baz.]

Been looking to add a sub 2 oz swimbait rod to the setup. And since i prefer not to take out more than 2 rods at a time, figure i should make it work as my flipping rod as well. 

 

What im currently thinking is a 7'6" Dobyns Sierra H/F with a Shimano Curado 200k. 

Thoughts on that setup? also for the Curado if anyone has experience/thoughts on going with the 7.4:1 or the 8.5:1 tips would be appreciated.

 

And as always if you have something else you think would do just as well ill take the advice. Price wise I'd like to keep the combo around or under $350 though obviously less is all good by me. 

 

Thanks in advance

[CroakHunter]

Dobyns fury 735

[Baz.]

4 minutes ago, CroakHunter said:

Dobyns fury 735

was considering a fury but heard about some tip breaking issues on the lighter models. Though i guess mag heavy should have less of that problem... Still when i say up to 2 ounces i mean ill be really throwing some 1.75 oz lures on this rod. 735 is rated at 1.5 oz, had any problems throwing slightly over it?

[CroakHunter]

39 minutes ago, Baz. said:

was considering a fury but heard about some tip breaking issues on the lighter models. Though i guess mag heavy should have less of that problem... Still when i say up to 2 ounces i mean ill be really throwing some 1.75 oz lures on this rod. 735 is rated at 1.5 oz, had any problems throwing slightly over it?

I thought it was rated for more. I would not suggest it then. Heaviest I've went on it is a 3/4 ounce weight with full size brush hog and flipping hook. 

[jtesch]

Daiwa Tatula 7’4. Frog/slop rod

perfect for your needs

[Baz.]

14 minutes ago, jtesch said:

Daiwa Tatula 7’4. Frog/slop rod

perfect for your needs

Seems interesting. Loving my Tatula LT spinning reel which might be whats grabbing my attention a bit more. Ill keep it on my list and do a bit of research. Will say though, and while it isnt nearly the most important factor, I typically prefer the feel of full length handle. Also usually cork but have felt a few foam handles i like. I have large hands (palms in particular) and rarely like how the narrow rod section fits in my hand. 

[nd1225]

KLX Frog and Creature for the Rod

 

OG Zillion 7:1

 

You’ll be money man

[Baz.]

2 minutes ago, nd1225 said:

KLX Frog and Creature for the Rod

 

OG Zillion 7:1

 

You’ll be money man

Looks like exactly what i want except for the price is a bit more than id like... 

 

looking into Daiwa 7'4 frog rod a bit more, I think ill give it a go. Foam sections look long enough to be comfortable. Anybody used? I see some tip breaking problems with lighter models... any problems with the heavy frog model?

 

Also.. You guys have any experience with the Daiwa Tatula 150? Looking at that or Shimano Curado 200k. Leaning towards Tatula since its a tatula rod and all and i do love my Tatula LT. That being said also curious to test more thats out there and have always heard great things about the curado.

[nd1225]

No experience with the new Tat 150, but from what I hear, it essentially replaced the Tat HD, so from my understanding, it should fit your needs. 

[Dangerfield]

11 hours ago, nd1225 said:

No experience with the new Tat 150, but from what I hear, it essentially replaced the Tat HD, so from my understanding, it should fit your needs. 

this. it's a Tat HD in the CT frame. I'd get one for my frog/swimbait rod for the longer handle but no discounts as it's a brand new offering.

[Baz.]

Ended up finding a Tatula 7'4 frog for $120 on amazon so ordered it. Hopefully price isnt too good to be true. 

 

Also ended up going with a Shimano Curado 200k. Thought process is I could always move over the curado and get a tatula 150 when deals start coming around. Also i've wanted to see what all the curado hype was about. 

 

Will let you guys know how i feel about them after a month or two of use.

[Junger]

21 minutes ago, Baz. said:

Ended up finding a Tatula 7'4 frog for $120 on amazon so ordered it. Hopefully price isnt too good to be true. 

 

Also ended up going with a Shimano Curado 200k. Thought process is I could always move over the curado and get a tatula 150 when deals start coming around. Also i've wanted to see what all the curado hype was about. 

 

Will let you guys know how i feel about them after a month or two of use.

I own 3 Tatula's, all but one came from Amazon and were far below the MSRP of $149.99 that you'll find at retail sites. Some people have complained about the shipping packaging that Amazon does, and while not the greatest, none of mine came broken. Not much risk, as Amazon returns are free if they do get damaged. The 6'9 ML/F is a mega bargain at $71 (backordered though).

[Baz.]

Just now, Junger said:

I own 3 Tatula's, all but one came from Amazon and were far below the MSRP of $149.99 that you'll find at retail sites. Some people have complained about the shipping packaging that Amazon does, and while not the greatest, none of mine came broken. Not much risk, as Amazon returns are free if they do get damaged. The 6'9 ML/F is a mega bargain at $71 (backordered though).

$71?!?!?! I might just have to jump in that backorder line. Thanks for letting me know.

[ib_of_the_damned]

I would recommend the iRod Fred's Magic Stick (754C), I use that for my 2oz and under swimbaits. Handles them perfect. It can also double/triple as a frog rod and flipping rod if you so choose.

 

I have mine paired with a Con cept A 6:6:1 with the deep spool and have it filled with 15lb Izorline XXX Super Co-Polymer as my small swimbait rod. Very light and balanced. 

[Junger]

30 minutes ago, Baz. said:

$71?!?!?! I might just have to jump in that backorder line. Thanks for letting me know.

It's ML/R, not ML/F and it's listed as the 8-14lb Black model in the drop down size list. I use this for my poppers and jerkbaits. Tip and rod length are fine, the only thing I would change is the butt size. It's just a tad too long for my taste and hits my forearm when I'm popping/jerking downward.

[fishwizzard]

5 hours ago, ib_of_the_damned said:

I would recommend the iRod Fred's Magic Stick (754C), I use that for my 2oz and under swimbaits. Handles them perfect. It can also double/triple as a frog rod and flipping rod if you so choose.

 

I have mine paired with a Con cept A 6:6:1 with the deep spool and have it filled with 15lb Izorline XXX Super Co-Polymer as my small swimbait rod. Very light and balanced. 

I have a FMS and if you can deal with the handle length it is a great rod across it's rating.  It for sure does not like a BBZ 50 Rat at ~2.5oz, but throws a 2oz soft swimbait just fine.  I have the same reel on mine, but it 8:1 and have it spooled with 40lb braid.  I use it for now as a gp heavy kayak rod for bass and I am going to bring it along with a Plopper 130 tied on when I am trolling for stripers for the off chance I get a shot at a topwater feed.  

 

I am debating getting like 2-3" lopped of the butt for easier kayak use, it's a nice versatile rod but that long butt kills me. 

[ib_of_the_damned]

23 hours ago, fishwizzard said:

I have a FMS and if you can deal with the handle length it is a great rod across it's rating.  It for sure does not like a BBZ 50 Rat at ~2.5oz, but throws a 2oz soft swimbait just fine.  I have the same reel on mine, but it 8:1 and have it spooled with 40lb braid.  I use it for now as a gp heavy kayak rod for bass and I am going to bring it along with a Plopper 130 tied on when I am trolling for stripers for the off chance I get a shot at a topwater feed.  

 

I am debating getting like 2-3" lopped of the butt for easier kayak use, it's a nice versatile rod but that long butt kills me. 

I decided to go with the 6.6:1 so I could slow down for tossing swimbaits. I used to have an Abu Garcia Orra Winch 5.4:1 on there but when I decided to switch up baits one day and use soft plastics, I didn't like how slow the reel was. I figured 6.6:1 would be a good middle ground reel speed.

 

As for chopping off 2-3" off the butt, wouldn't that mess with the balance of the rod and void the warranty?

[fishwizzard]

1 hour ago, ib_of_the_damned said:

I decided to go with the 6.6:1 so I could slow down for tossing swimbaits. I used to have an Abu Garcia Orra Winch 5.4:1 on there but when I decided to switch up baits one day and use soft plastics, I didn't like how slow the reel was. I figured 6.6:1 would be a good middle ground reel speed.

 

As for chopping off 2-3" off the butt, wouldn't that mess with the balance of the rod and void the warranty?

I bought it as a pure frog rod, but then found I like swimbaits more so the Irod got moved to GP kayak duty and I bought a different combo for swimbaits.  I am somewhat souring on super fast reels but it's not worth selling it.  

 

I am not really worried about the warranty, I have caught enough fish on it that any breakage is going to be my fault at this point.  The balance issue is real, but I would have the builder add back the weight that was removed plus a little to make it balance tip up.  At some point I am going to buy a dowel rod and mount my reel on it with tape and start cutting it shorter like 1/2" at a time to see where the sweet spot is for handle length.  As it is right now it's painful to fish it for long seated as the butt hits my PFD and it makes me keep my arms at a weird angle on the retrieve.  

 

If they made a 6'8" version of the FMS with the same power and taper I would buy two of them, it's such a good rod but the ergonomics really kill it for me.  With kayak fishing surging in popularity I hope to see someone start making rods designed for that application.