Is Big Foot a hoax

[burrows]

7 minutes ago, fissure_man said:

 So the legend will live on.

It will indeed.

[Hyrule Bass]

2 hours ago, fissure_man said:

@Hyrule Bass the fact that the evidence out there requires a significant “belief” component to be accepted means that it’s not solid evidence. The possibility of an elusive, isolated population of unknown primates somewhere in the world is perhaps not too difficult to imagine. There are rare species that we know to exist and they are very difficult to photograph or document, and that’s because they are rarely encountered. In this capacity, the idea of a bigfoot could be plausible (IMO).

 

But this isn’t at all the model that “bigfoot culture” suggests. There are countless reported bigfoot (or variant) sightings from every corner of the globe, and especially all over the United States. How many individuals of the species would it take to maintain breeding populations all over the world? The folks from BFRO (and others) are apparently so in tune with the creatures that they can regularly put themselves in close contact with bigfoots at multiple locations – close enough to hear and interact with them, have rocks thrown in their direction, and stumble upon the not-so-discreet log “structures” that mark their territory.  None of this suggests a small, isolated population. It’s this model of a widespread, bold, but miraculously evasive “bigfoot” that’s tough to rationalize (IMO).  If there are as many of these creatures out there as even a fraction of this “evidence” would suggest, why is there no hard proof (body, skeleton, live capture)?

 

There’s loads of weak evidence in the form of eyewitness accounts, audio recordings, photos/videos, footprints, etc. and it’s all heavily scrutinized, as it should be. If the creature is real it will stand up to this scrutiny, so far it hasn’t. That’s not to say that every piece of evidence has been conclusively debunked – it’s unreasonable to expect that will ever be the case. There are many phenomena in the world that are unexplained, and while these can raise important questions and debate, they don’t offer much in the way of proof (example: “I don’t know how or why that particular tree is jammed into the ground upside down, but I also have no reason to believe it was the work of a mythical ape”)

 

It wouldn't take much hard evidence to conclusively prove that bigfoot exists (if it did), but it’s impossible for skeptics to prove that it doesn’t. So the legend will live on.

for some, it doesnt require a significant belief component, as you put it. for some, its 100% fact that bigfoots exist. theres people on all different sides of the spectrum from 100% believers to 100% non-believers and everywhere in between, this is my point. you dont find it a bit odd that large and small human-like footprints are found in remote places and rugged terrain? im talking footprints 2-3 times bigger than the average humans in the middle of the woods where you wouldnt suspect any human would walk around barefoot. or small child-like footprints where you think someone would be an idiot to let their kids walk around barefoot. also casts show there are differences in these tracks from the anatomy of a humans foot. you may say this doesnt prove bigfoot, at the same time its proven they arent human. then what are they from? what animal has hands to throw rocks? i can go on and on if i wanted to. you may view it as weak evidence, others view it as strong evidence. you get my point? just because you may not believe, doesnt mean the evidence is weak or should be discounted. i cant sit here and say i am 100% a believer, but i can say theres enough evidence out there to make me think twice about it and believe in the possibility bigfoot could exist.

 

 

 

[fissure_man]

By “belief” I mean that the evidence is not conclusive to prove existence, at least from a perspective of reasonable scientific skepticism. For instance, compare the body of evidence for the existence of bigfoot to that of grizzly bears – accepting the existence of one of these requires much more “belief” than the other.

 

Regarding the footprints, etc. – I do find those things odd. They are very odd. Unfortunately, none of these odd things are conclusive, and many are easy to fake or could conceivably be misinterpreted.  

 

What has hands to throw rocks? People do.

 

What made those prints? Maybe bears, maybe hoaxers, maybe pink fuzzy unicorns, who knows? Maybe they’re not prints at all.

 

It’s easy to assign difficult-to-explain sights, sounds, smells, experiences, flying rocks, “tree breaks”, etc. to a loosely defined fictional creature because it has no rules, no standard – it’s made up.  See/smell/hear something weird in the woods?  It’s bigfoot.  How does one argue against that?

 

Suppose bigfoot exists, and we learn that it is incapable of uprooting, inverting, and pile-driving that 30’ tree into the ground from Bigbill’s link. Or we learn that they don’t smell bad, or that they don’t make shrieking howls, or they can’t throw rocks.  Lacking an obvious explanation for these phenomena, would we then have to attribute them to some new made-up creature?  A bigger-foot, perhaps?    

 

Oddest of all (IMO) is that, as I said before, it seems bigfoot enthusiasts have relatively little difficulty finding or experiencing “signs” of bigfoots, even interacting with them, but nobody has ever found even a partial specimen that can be verified.  No amount of inconclusive, questionable evidence adds up to legitimate proof.  And a large, globally widespread, terrestrial mammal shouldn’t be this hard to prove.

[FrankN209]

In 2016, there was 7.4 billion people on this earth and not one bigfoot captured..

[iabass8]

19 hours ago, Hyrule Bass said:

theres plenty of evidence out there. its up to you to research it or believe if its real, fake, possible or somewhere in between. apparently you(and many others) choose to just ignore it, which is fine as the topic doesnt interest everyone and thats understandable.

There is zero hard evidence he  exists.

[Bankbeater]

Of course bigfoot is real.  It's on the internet.

[J.Vincent]

 I treat these Bigfoot stories the same way I treat the kid telling stories about a 15lb Michigan largemouth....with a grin and a smile

[lo n slo]

hanging out with big bill would kick some serious butt 

[burrows]

3 minutes ago, lo n slo said:

hanging out with big bill would kick some serious butt 

No  doubt  ?

[gim]

What about the Russian Yeti?!

[N Florida Mike]

There's a white hairy ape up in the Himalayas I was reading about. Probably explains the " abominable snowman "

[frosty]

1 hour ago, N Florida Mike said:

There's a white hairy ape up in the Himalayas I was reading about. Probably explains the " abominable snowman "

Oh, I was going to say, I’m not that hairy. 

[burrows]

1 hour ago, N Florida Mike said:

There's a white hairy ape up in the Himalayas I was reading about. Probably explains the " abominable snowman "

I read about that as well they were even able to get some strands of its hair but the dna just matched up with some type of ape or were inconclusive if I recal correctly.

[Bluebasser86]

Maybe he is real and so smart that he managed to get a job doing commercials for Geico, and we didn't even realize it.

[BASS302]

Can anyone tell me what bigfoot feces look like?  I don't want to step in them.

 

On 5/6/2018 at 6:11 PM, bigbill said:

nothing scares me on this planet but you need to be upclose and personal when this thing howls or screams.

Maybe it's constipated?

[burrows]

6 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Maybe he is real and so smart that he managed to get a job doing commercials for Geico, and we didn't even realize it.

Wah wah wah?

[Columbia Craw]

Don't tell Emma Sasquatch doesn't exist or Papa will be a fibber.

[burrows]

http://www.newser.com/story/255579/positive-she-saw-bigfoot-shes-suing-california.html

[soflabasser]

On 5/10/2018 at 12:03 PM, Bankbeater said:

Of course bigfoot is real.  It's on the internet.

Bigfoot is as real as the +8 pound bass some internet fishermen claim to have caught yet they don't have any pictures of the bass being weighed on a scale,say they forgot to bring the scale that day, or that the phone was dead when they caught the bass.

[deaknh03]

1 hour ago, soflabasser said:

Bigfoot is as real as the +8 pound bass some internet fishermen claim to have caught yet they don't have any pictures of the bass being weighed on a scale,say they forgot to bring the scale that day, or that the phone was dead when they caught the bass.

And what if the scale is broken, or the phone is dead? Does that make the fish not real?

[Turkey sandwich]

Oh my God, the resurgence of the Bigfoot thread has absolutely made my day. 

[Bassin' Brad]

34 minutes ago, Turkey sandwich said:

Oh my God, the resurgence of the Bigfoot thread has absolutely made my day. 

Me too! I was hoping it wouldn't die...

[Gundog]

I believe Big Feets is real but you are fake. 

[Turkey sandwich]

51 minutes ago, Bassin' Brad said:

Me too! I was hoping it wouldn't die...

It would always live on in our hearts. That was some kind of magic...

[frosty]

5 hours ago, Gundog said:

I believe Big Feets is real but you are fake. 

Damnit gundog, you figured me out!