my old shimano bantam coriolis???

[whitearrow]

ok fellas I was digging around my storage room and ran upon the rod/6'6" Lews speed stick mh and reel/Shimano bantam coriolis 200,i believe it is, that I caught my PB,7.25 lb largemouth bass, on and thought it would be fun to put it into the rotation some times. so, I spooled it up with some pp 50lb braid and tied a fluoro leader on with a 1/8oz bullet weight and 4/0 hook threaded a 4" ole skool "glitter worm" on and to the backyard we go. I adjusted the cast control and the mag brakes to more or less freespool and was getting apporx 30 yds per cast. the spool appeared to slow down at the end of the cast with not even a hint of backlash or overrun. any thoughts from y'all on what I could try to revive this old warhorse??

thanks,

Big Ed

[Tywithay]

A good cleaning and/or possibly a new set of bearings would help. A little bit longer handle might make it more comfortable to fish as well.

[Fishingmickey]

1 hour ago, Tywithay said:

A good cleaning and/or possibly a new set of bearings would help. A little bit longer handle might make it more comfortable to fish as well.

+1 and maybe new set of carbon fiber drag washers. Maybe send it to DVT (Delaware Valley tackle) for the complete tune. 

FM  

[WRB]

Agree to servicing the reel, clean out the old gear grease and oil.

1/8 oz bullet wright. 4/0 hook and 4" worm, hope you don't plan on fishing this rig!

3/16 oz, 3/0 with 6"-7 1/2" worm will cast more effectively, with a 4" worm I would use a 2/0 hook depending on the diamter.

I get out my old stuff every year, lots of fun with good memories.

Tom

[whitearrow]

no, not planning on fishing with said worm/hook/weight combo. just put a worm on I didn't mind messing up in the yard. I usually use a 7.5" power worm with said hook/weight combo. are there any shimano coriolis break down and clean/bearing swap vids or written instructions out there?

thanks,

Big Ed

[grub_man]

Which Coriolis is it?  The old white one with a body style like the old Curados and Citicas of the day, or the red one?  I still have a red Coriolis 200D.  I don't fish it often these days, but keep it around in case something happens to one of the reels in my regular rotation.  At $80, it was my first 'nice' casting reel in high school.  I had 2 until I gave one along with a 3 pc. travel rod to a kid I taught in a UBMS program last summer.

 

The reel is a pretty simple design, and if you follow along just about any casting reel teardown, you will be just fine.  You don't have any springs tucked under the cast control cap or in the drag star to deal with.  The drag only has one washer sandwiched between gear and steel washer.  On the red 200D, the screws that go in the left and right side of the frame above the level wind that hold the hood on are different lengths, and something to watch out for.  Unless you have a bunch of debris to clean out, you shouldn't need to do much on the magnetic cast control side, other than pulling and lubing the spool bearing.

 

The only parts I've had to replace on mine were a damaged level wind pawl, and the thumb bar spring.  The Boca Bearings that I put in it were a welcomed upgrade.  The only issue with it is that with the graphite frame, it does not feel as crisp as its Citica and Curado cousins.

[whitearrow]

thanks grub. mine is the black coriolis with blue writing on it. not sure of the number but yeah it was my first "good" reel after college and brought back some good memories with my pb being caught on it. I'd like to get some boca bearings abec7 for it but don't really wanna exceed the value of the reel with (2) bearings ha! otoh can you put a price on memories made??? I looked on youtube but all the shimano  lo pro reels are newer with centrifugal brakes vs mins magnetic brake system.

thanks again,

Big Ed

[WRB]

No reason for ABEC7 bearings in a reel, upgrade to ABEC 3 or 5 is over kill....but whatever you feel you need. I would upgrade the drags first. Clean the reel so the spool spins freely and the gears are quite you are good to go.

Tom

[The Bassman]

Caught my biggest bass with that reel over 25 yrs. ago. Like @WRB said don't be concerned with bearing upgrades. The distance you mentioned with good control sounds great. If you do choose to swap them they should be standard Shimano 3x10x4. Just a drop of oil on the stock ones will probably loosen the reel up quite a bit. Also, wipe off the spool shaft and frame where the spool runs.

[whitearrow]

thanks men for the replys. the reel is in plenty control,almost feels like too much control, with no feeling like it might over run. the reel is still quiet as the day I bought it but it just feel like it has more to give and is not free feeling if that makes sense to y'all. guess I need to tear into it and maybe oil the bearings in it,it is a 100 and says on the side plate that it has (2),spool I assume, bearings in it.

thanks,

Big Ed

[whitearrow]

so,to update this thread I pulled the reel apart and put a coupla drops of m-pro 7 oil on the 1 spool bearing I could find and put it back together. stepped out and threw it this morn and it feels much better and feels more free feeling if that makes sense. it gained about 15 or so feet on the cast. does anybody know where the other bearing is on this coriolis co-100 reel? like I said I oiled the 1 spool bearing but couldn't find the other bearing to oil it.

thanks,

Big Ed

[lmbfisherman]

I found a list of schematics, here you go.  

 

http://www.reelschematic.com/reel-schematics/shimano-reel-schematics/shimano-coriolis-schematics/#gsc.tab=0

 

[whitearrow]

thanks imbfisherman but guess I'm just incapable of reading a schematic as I don't see bearing listed but 1 time on the parts sheet and it ain't even related to the spool bearing which they don't even show on the schematic. the only bearing the schematic shows and the parts list mentions is a bearing under the handle assembly. would oiling that bearing under the handle assembly increase my casting distance enough to break it down and oil it? now the spool shaft bearing that I did oil made a noticeable difference.

thanks,

Big Ed

[lmbfisherman]

2 minutes ago, whitearrow said:

thanks imbfisherman but guess I'm just incapable of reading a schematic as I don't see bearing listed but 1 time on the parts sheet and it ain't even related to the spool bearing which they don't even show on the schematic. the only bearing the schematic shows and the parts list mentions is a bearing under the handle assembly. would oiling that bearing under the handle assembly increase my casting distance enough to break it down and oil it? now the spool shaft bearing that I did oil made a noticeable difference.

thanks,

Big Ed

Sorry I'm no expert, I do clean my reels and re-grease/oil but it doesn't mean I know everything for all reels (just my own).  I'm sure someone with more knowledge can assist.  However with my limited knowledge I wouldn't think so.  I see a spool shaft bushing, not sure if anything can be done there as all my reels do not have a bushing there.  Maybe someone can chime in on that. 

[whitearrow]

thanks for trying bud.

Big Ed

[Tywithay]

I don't know if I pulled the right schematic, but on the Bantam Coriolis 100, part 0880 is spool shaft bushing B and part 1112 is spool shaft bushing A. It doesn't appear to have a bearing supporting the spool. In which case, any bearing would be an upgrade, if you can measure the bushings.

[whitearrow]

Ty I just don't know bud. on the reel it says 2 bearings and I'm almost positive there was a bearing on 1 side of the spool when I pulled the reel apart. oh well, bearing or bushing I put 2 drops of m-pro 7 gun oil on it and it does noticeably better now. the spool will actually overrun now when I unscrew the cast control and let the worm fall to the floor whereas initially I could have unscrewed the cast control all the way off and let the worm fall and the spool would stop when the worm hit the floor. ok unless somebody can point out another bearing that would positively affect the casting performance I might just call it good and put it in rotation.

thanks fellas,

Big Ed

[lmbfisherman]

1 hour ago, whitearrow said:

Ty I just don't know bud. on the reel it says 2 bearings and I'm almost positive there was a bearing on 1 side of the spool when I pulled the reel apart. oh well, bearing or bushing I put 2 drops of m-pro 7 gun oil on it and it does noticeably better now. the spool will actually overrun now when I unscrew the cast control and let the worm fall to the floor whereas initially I could have unscrewed the cast control all the way off and let the worm fall and the spool would stop when the worm hit the floor. ok unless somebody can point out another bearing that would positively affect the casting performance I might just call it good and put it in rotation.

thanks fellas,

Big Ed

I agree with Ty, if you want more performance definitely change it from a bushing to a bearing.  If you're happy with it the way it is, don't think you can do much more without the upgrade.

[Tywithay]

1 hour ago, whitearrow said:

Ty I just don't know bud. on the reel it says 2 bearings and I'm almost positive there was a bearing on 1 side of the spool when I pulled the reel apart. oh well, bearing or bushing I put 2 drops of m-pro 7 gun oil on it and it does noticeably better now. the spool will actually overrun now when I unscrew the cast control and let the worm fall to the floor whereas initially I could have unscrewed the cast control all the way off and let the worm fall and the spool would stop when the worm hit the floor. ok unless somebody can point out another bearing that would positively affect the casting performance I might just call it good and put it in rotation.

thanks fellas,

Big Ed

There's a worm gear bearing and drive shaft bearing. The drive shaft is likely what you oiled, unless a bearing had already been added at some point.

[whitearrow]

the bearing/bushing I oiled was attached to the spool with a pin not letting it slide off the spool.not sure now whether it was handle side of the spool or mag brake side now.

thanks,

Big Ed

[Tywithay]

18 minutes ago, whitearrow said:

the bearing/bushing I oiled was attached to the spool with a pin not letting it slide off the spool.not sure now whether it was handle side of the spool or mag brake side now.

thanks,

Big Ed

Looks like there is an unmarked bearing attached to the spool. Likely not listed in the parts list because you could only order the spool as an assembly and not individually.

[whitearrow]

that's it Ty. it woulda sworn it was a bearing but I was questioning whether it really was a bushing and since it wasn't mentioned or noted as being a bearing I was scratching my head lol. man, I'm glad you blew that pic up and found out a definitive answer. I thought it strange that only 1 side of the spool had a bearing on it but whatever I guess.

thanks my man for this,

Big Ed

[Tywithay]

The shaft opposite that bearing rides in a bushing near the braking mechanism. The other spool shaft bushing is under the tension knob.

[whitearrow]

thanks much TY. so, I guess I oiled the only bearing pertaining to casting distance?

thanks,

Big Ed