Fuel Treatment???

[NHBull]

My Honda has the same small one in the engine, but I added the big one on the advice of my mechanic 

[WRB]

The E fuel regulation is in effect but the supply of E fuel can't keep up demand. There is a high probability the gas station you frequent doesn't always have E fuel although the pump is labeled contains 15% or 10% in some states.

This leaves us a choice and the safe choice is to assume it's E fuel and add additives to our outboard engine fuel.

Tom

[Slade House]

Seafoam is just snake oil , nuff said

 

[Yakalong]

It's your boat but I use it, my mechanic recommends it so does mercury.  I will take their advice over a guy at the boat ramp.

[NHBull]

Marinas on my lake advertise that they pretreat their gas with start on or similar product.  I guess that is how they justify 4.00/gal gas. ?

[Goldstar225]

On 8/6/2018 at 12:26 PM, Slade House said:

Seafoam is just snake oil , nuff said

 

I was of the same mind years ago and was hesitant to try it.  Many on the motorcycle forums I participated in at the time spoke highly of it.  Based upon that I gave it a try. My personal experience is that it does work.

[DogBone_384]

I put Seafoam in all my dino-burners.

 

A++

[Slade House]

On 8/7/2018 at 9:32 PM, Goldstar225 said:

I was of the same mind years ago and was hesitant to try it.  Many on the motorcycle forums I participated in at the time spoke highly of it.  Based upon that I gave it a try. My personal experience is that it does work.

Sea Foam Motor Treatment will help:
THE BIG WORD HERE IS HELP SO IT 

• HELPS Clean Injectors . --   NOPE 
• HELPS Clean Carb Jets . ---IT DOES JACK TO CLEAN CARB JETS
• HELPS Clean Deposits . --- NOPE , DOESN'T CLEAN DEPOSITS ON THE THROTTLE BODY- NOBODY SAYS IN THEIR YOUTUBE VIDEO TITLED "How to clean your throttle body"  spray some seafoam in there first, it helps clean things.  
• HELPS Control Moisture in Fuel Systems . ---- you mean a water filter? 
• HELPS Add Lubricity and Protection to Fuel - nope, fuel does that on its on
• HELPS Anti-corrosive .   anti corrosive?  fuel systems are made of things that gasoline will corrode 
• HELPS Lube Upper Cylinders --- nope, and even if it did , how could you tell, and doesn't oil and gasoline already do that. 
• HELPS Quiet Noisy Lifters--  this is BS, and very easily a placebo 
• HELPS Stabilize Fuels for up to 2 Years
• HELPS Clean Passageways
• HELPS Liquefy Gum and Varnish
• HELPS De-Ice and Anti-Gel --- You mean seafoam is antifreeze?  "Hey american airlines flight 427 we have to hold here while the ground crew sprays seafoam on the wings for deiicing procedure."" NOPE!!!
• HELPS Clean Intake Valves--- NOPE !!!!!!
• HELPS Clean Pistons . Phu*k NOPE!! 

 

so sea foam is claims to help do all these things,  when if you have ever actuallly hac to clean your carbs in an outboard (remember to take a engraving micro pen and label your cylinders) , completely clean the entire fuel system (don't forget your zip ties), clean throttle bodies on crappy honda engines , etc etc then you know this stuff is snake oil.  

Me personally i don't need products that help, i need products that do.  Like JB weld (NOW IN bigger 16 oz tubes) . JB weld does, Dirtex does, bleach does, grease does, oil does, gasoline does, while SEA FOAM HELPS??!!?!??!   if i need help in any of the things that sea foam claims to help, ill buy what i need to do that right, and do it right.  its like shampoio and conditioner combined, it doesnt do a good job of either shampooing and or condtioning. 

 

[JLBBass]

11 hours ago, Slade House said:

Sea Foam Motor Treatment will help:
THE BIG WORD HERE IS HELP SO IT 

• HELPS Clean Injectors . --   NOPE 
• HELPS Clean Carb Jets . ---IT DOES JACK TO CLEAN CARB JETS
• HELPS Clean Deposits . --- NOPE , DOESN'T CLEAN DEPOSITS ON THE THROTTLE BODY- NOBODY SAYS IN THEIR YOUTUBE VIDEO TITLED "How to clean your throttle body"  spray some seafoam in there first, it helps clean things.  
• HELPS Control Moisture in Fuel Systems . ---- you mean a water filter? 
• HELPS Add Lubricity and Protection to Fuel - nope, fuel does that on its on
• HELPS Anti-corrosive .   anti corrosive?  fuel systems are made of things that gasoline will corrode 
• HELPS Lube Upper Cylinders --- nope, and even if it did , how could you tell, and doesn't oil and gasoline already do that. 
• HELPS Quiet Noisy Lifters--  this is BS, and very easily a placebo 
• HELPS Stabilize Fuels for up to 2 Years
• HELPS Clean Passageways
• HELPS Liquefy Gum and Varnish
• HELPS De-Ice and Anti-Gel --- You mean seafoam is antifreeze?  "Hey american airlines flight 427 we have to hold here while the ground crew sprays seafoam on the wings for deiicing procedure."" NOPE!!!
• HELPS Clean Intake Valves--- NOPE !!!!!!
• HELPS Clean Pistons . Phu*k NOPE!! 

 

so sea foam is claims to help do all these things,  when if you have ever actuallly hac to clean your carbs in an outboard (remember to take a engraving micro pen and label your cylinders) , completely clean the entire fuel system (don't forget your zip ties), clean throttle bodies on crappy honda engines , etc etc then you know this stuff is snake oil.  

Me personally i don't need products that help, i need products that do.  Like JB weld (NOW IN bigger 16 oz tubes) . JB weld does, Dirtex does, bleach does, grease does, oil does, gasoline does, while SEA FOAM HELPS??!!?!??!   if i need help in any of the things that sea foam claims to help, ill buy what i need to do that right, and do it right.  its like shampoio and conditioner combined, it doesnt do a good job of either shampooing and or condtioning. 

 

And "you" know all of this because??? 

Seafoam does everything it states! I've been using it for over 30 yrs! 

[Sam]

I use Marine Sta-Bil.

 

Follow directions as you can put too much in the tank and dilute the gas.

[A-Jay]

2 hours ago, Sam said:

I use Marine Sta-Bil.

 

Follow directions as you can put too much in the tank and dilute the gas.

Yup

A-Jay

[Glenn]

For me, it's 3 things:

1. Always use 92 octane non-ethanol gas

2. Always use 2x Marine Stabil

3. Always use 2x Yamaha Ring Free

 

I blew 2 power heads in 5 years before switching to this approach 10 years ago.  No problems since.

 

[Scott F]

2 hours ago, Glenn said:

For me, it's 3 things:

1. Always use 92 octane non-ethanol gas

I blew 2 power heads in 5 years before switching to this approach 10 years ago.  No problems since.

 

Why use 92 octane gas? Doesn't Mercury say to use 87? Does your motor knock with 87 octane?

[looking45]

I use Stabil and QuickKleen every time I buy gas

[Glenn]

2 hours ago, Scott F said:

Why use 92 octane gas? Doesn't Mercury say to use 87? Does your motor knock with 87 octane?

To beat people like you on the water. LOL 

 

I kid.  Besides the power boost, I think it burns cleaner.

[Scott F]

Just now, Glenn said:

To beat people like you on the water. LOL 

 

Seriously, 92 octane only has more anti-knock compounds than 87 and is only needed in high compression engines. It doesn't provide any power advantages, it just costs a lot more. I know that sometimes, the only ethanol free fuel available is 92 octane so you don't have another choice, but since all modern engines are designed to run on E10 I wondered if there was a reason you would choose the more expensive fuel.

[Glenn]

Hope you know I'm joking with you. 

 

My engine is an '03.  Ethanol and it don't mix....ever.  Yes, non-ethanol is usually only available in higher octans, but I've also noticed it starts and runs better with higher octane.  Not sure if it's the non-ethanol or higher octane part, probably a little of both; but I did read that a non-ethanol version of the same octane has 10% more power than the 10% ethanol version.

 

Run whatever you like, and nobody will judge you....usually. 

 

 

[Fishing Rhino]

Nope, it doesn't work.  Yes, it does work.

 

I have a lawn edger with a Briggs and Stratton motor.  It used to be a bear to start after sitting all winter.  The only way to get it started was to dump out all of the fuel and drain the carb, and refill with fresh gasoline.

 

So, one year I decided to try Stabil in the fuel.  Since then, the lawn edger starts in the spring without having to get rid of the prior year's fuel and refill with fresh.

 

I also have it in our backup generator.  It will start right up on fuel that is four or five years old.  I'd have to check on the label to be sure, but I think one ounce of the Marine Stabil will treat ten gallons of gasoline.  I started treating all the fuel I had in five gallon containers in the fall. What I did was to add the Stabil to all the portable storage jugs that contained gasoline.  From what I read, gasoline begins to degrade in a few weeks, so I started treating the fuel for the lawn mowers, lawn edger, chain saw, weed whacker, etc.  Now I add it to the portable containers when I fill them.

 

Could be wrong, but I think the main thing that additives do is to protect the fuel lines from being degraded by ethanol.

[Maggiesmaster]

The simple fact is this: 10% ethanol gas has a little over 1/2 gallon ethanol in a 6 gallon tank of fuel.  You can’t add enough fuel additive to make a difference. To keep small engines running well, you have two choices: 1) use non-ethanol gas and change about every 6 months or 2) use ethanol gas and change the gas at least monthly.  If you don’t believe this, just visit with a physical chemist....he’ll fill you in. 

[Way2slow]

I can see using one or the other, which I prefer SeaFoam, but think using both is overkill. 

Actually, test have shown running high octane fuel in an 87 octane engines causes even more carbon because of the lower burn rate.

The main thing is to stick with top tier gasolines. If you don't, do a net search and educate yourself on Top Tier gas.  I don't even run that other off brand crud in my lawn mowers.
gasolin

Many years back, the military ran test on fuels and additives because of the long intervals tactical vehicles and equipment would sit unused.  Following those test, it was recommended to add SeaFoam, that it would keep the fuel usable for up to one year.  I guess they decided since it was just snake oil, Seafoam needed this recommendation to sell it.   I would never run year old gas in my outboard no matter what additive was in it.

[Goldstar225]

On 8/28/2018 at 1:12 AM, Slade House said:

Sea Foam Motor Treatment will help:
THE BIG WORD HERE IS HELP SO IT 

• HELPS Clean Injectors . --   NOPE 
• HELPS Clean Carb Jets . ---IT DOES JACK TO CLEAN CARB JETS
• HELPS Clean Deposits . --- NOPE , DOESN'T CLEAN DEPOSITS ON THE THROTTLE BODY- NOBODY SAYS IN THEIR YOUTUBE VIDEO TITLED "How to clean your throttle body"  spray some seafoam in there first, it helps clean things.  
• HELPS Control Moisture in Fuel Systems . ---- you mean a water filter? 
• HELPS Add Lubricity and Protection to Fuel - nope, fuel does that on its on
• HELPS Anti-corrosive .   anti corrosive?  fuel systems are made of things that gasoline will corrode 
• HELPS Lube Upper Cylinders --- nope, and even if it did , how could you tell, and doesn't oil and gasoline already do that. 
• HELPS Quiet Noisy Lifters--  this is BS, and very easily a placebo 
• HELPS Stabilize Fuels for up to 2 Years
• HELPS Clean Passageways
• HELPS Liquefy Gum and Varnish
• HELPS De-Ice and Anti-Gel --- You mean seafoam is antifreeze?  "Hey american airlines flight 427 we have to hold here while the ground crew sprays seafoam on the wings for deiicing procedure."" NOPE!!!
• HELPS Clean Intake Valves--- NOPE !!!!!!
• HELPS Clean Pistons . Phu*k NOPE!! 

 

so sea foam is claims to help do all these things,  when if you have ever actuallly hac to clean your carbs in an outboard (remember to take a engraving micro pen and label your cylinders) , completely clean the entire fuel system (don't forget your zip ties), clean throttle bodies on crappy honda engines , etc etc then you know this stuff is snake oil.  

Me personally i don't need products that help, i need products that do.  Like JB weld (NOW IN bigger 16 oz tubes) . JB weld does, Dirtex does, bleach does, grease does, oil does, gasoline does, while SEA FOAM HELPS??!!?!??!   if i need help in any of the things that sea foam claims to help, ill buy what i need to do that right, and do it right.  its like shampoio and conditioner combined, it doesnt do a good job of either shampooing and or condtioning. 

 

I can't speak to each point but...

 

Yes it will clean throttle bodies, did so many times, carb jets too.  You believe what you like.  I know what I've experienced.  Have a good day sir.

[Slade House]

alright i will try the sea foam and the stabil in my engines again.  see what it does.  i hope i am wrong

[fishnkamp]

Star Tron has been in use in my boat since I purchased it in 1020. Never been an issue. I did replace the factory fuel lines two years ago, for cheap insurance, and cut one open. It was fine inside so I was glad to see that.

 

[Krux5506]

When my parent's bought their cottage this crappy old Agway lawn tractor came with it that ran horribly. My Dad did some basic tune up stuff, still ran bad. He ended up running two cans of sea foam through it and it ran better and better with each treatment. Must be a crazy coincidence I guess if that stuff does nothing. 

[MickD]

It is amazing to me how we all "know" a lot less than we think we do.

 

I would look to my engine manufacturer for the answer to this question.