austinF Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 How much do you know about Bait Finesse System? Do you own a BFS reel for bass fishing? I was wondering why trout fishermen don’t use BFS reels since it’s difficult to start fly fishing. Lol Quote
puddlepuncher Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 Most trout fisherman I know myself included use spinning gear when fishing for trout. BFS gear get's pretty expensive as does fly fishing gear. Years ago I knew a guy who has since won a Peabody award for fly fishing documentaries, and he used spinning tackle a majority of the time when I knew him. 1 Quote
desmobob Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 I have some BFS stuff and have lots of fun using it as "ultralight baitcasting" gear as much as I use it as Bait Finesse System gear. I use fly rods on the trout... I haven't quite tuned my light bait casters well enough to cast a size 20 Trico. Tight lines, Bob 2 Quote
Yudo1 Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 I have some bfs combos that target bass, but this year I'm looking forward to giving trout fishing a shot. I picked up a kuying teton super ultra-light that I plan to pair up with a pixy/diy spool. The teton is impressive for the price. As to why more don't use bfs casting reels for trout? I believe the expense is the biggest obstacle. You could pick up an ultra-light spinning combo for $20 vs hundreds just for a reel which will probably need super tuned with bearings and shallow bfs spool unless you want to spend more for a conquest bfs or aldebaran bfs. Trout casting rods are a little more work to source because the local field and stream and dicks usually don't carry them. I also believe casting ultra-light lures may be challenging or intimidating for some. As for me, I'm excited to give it a try. BTW you should check out the Enjoy Fishing channel on youtube. That guy's casting skills are magical. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 BFS tackle is an enthusiast endeavor. There are more economical and efficient forms of tackle available for similar applications. 2 Quote
onenutinthewater Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 I have been trying to get into the BFS gear but it is hard to come by here in the US . I have purchased a calcutta conquest BFS reel so far and have paired it with a nice finesse Edge rod. Still trying to round up another rod and reel- Next im thinking a Daiwa SS paired with a Major Craft rod. Hard to pull the trigger on gear that I cannot even touch since none of it is sold here in the states. 1 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted April 9, 2018 Super User Posted April 9, 2018 If you are willing to buy used, cosmetically rough reel and buy rods and parts from China, you can get a UL trout bfs combo for like $250-300. Still way more then a Uglystick combo, but within a reasonable range of a “nice” spinning combo. I dont fish for trout very much, but have a bfs combo I use for white perch to cast inline spinners, spoons, and micro-cranks that works great on stocked rainbows as well. The only real advantage casting reel have over spinning reels is less line twist issues when using lures like that. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted April 10, 2018 Super User Posted April 10, 2018 I'm not really into BFS especially for bass but I do own 7' UL Daiwa spinmatic pair with my old culcutta 50b for trout and panfish. I used this setup mostly for inline spinner and kastmaster. But even that I still struggle anything below 1/16oz. As DVT mentioned I didn't use this as often as my spinning setup with Sahara 750 where is more efficient. For bass I got majorcraft Light rod pair with SV105 but my target is not BFS but for nedrig and 1/8 lures. I'm thinking of either get shallow spool for my 70 or 50e 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 11, 2018 Global Moderator Posted April 11, 2018 I have an economical BFS rig, a KastKing Spartacus Plus with a shallow spool that was less than $10, on a 7' ML Fenwick, spooled with 8lb mono. Cast a little 1/8oz jig very nicely. I wouldn't ever want to use it for trout though, a spinning rod works so much better for the baits I use for them. 1 Quote
austinF Posted April 12, 2018 Author Posted April 12, 2018 On 2018/4/9 at 10:25 PM, Yudo1 said: I have some bfs combos that target bass, but this year I'm looking forward to giving trout fishing a shot. I picked up a kuying teton super ultra-light that I plan to pair up with a pixy/diy spool. The teton is impressive for the price. As to why more don't use bfs casting reels for trout? I believe the expense is the biggest obstacle. You could pick up an ultra-light spinning combo for $20 vs hundreds just for a reel which will probably need super tuned with bearings and shallow bfs spool unless you want to spend more for a conquest bfs or aldebaran bfs. Trout casting rods are a little more work to source because the local field and stream and dicks usually don't carry them. I also believe casting ultra-light lures may be challenging or intimidating for some. As for me, I'm excited to give it a try. BTW you should check out the Enjoy Fishing channel on youtube. That guy's casting skills are magical. Though I'm not quiet understand what he said, but I'm still get addicted to the videos. Thanks for sharing. 1 Quote
haggard Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 I enjoy ultralight fishing and love baitcasters so I thought I'd combine them by getting a BFS setup but soon realized 1) very expensive and 2) gear is specialized and finicky so I got out of it real quick and it's back to spinning gear. I really wanted to make it work but I saw the rabbit hole I was about to go down. It can be done, but it can be expensive and sometimes frustrating. Wait, doesn't that describe fishing in general? I found that with some practice on the ultralight/fast 5'6 rod and 500 size spinning reel, I can be surprisingly accurate at short distances (which is all I can really reach on a 5'6 with a light lure). 1 1 2 Quote
FrankN209 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 I've used my Shimano Calcutta Conquest BFS for trout fishing. It works quite nice. 1 Quote
onenutinthewater Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 On 4/12/2018 at 5:21 AM, FrankN209 said: I've used my Shimano Calcutta Conquest BFS for trout fishing. It works quite nice. Agreed! Paired with an Edge 622 what an awesome combo for catching trout on the spoon. 2 Quote
Super User ATA Posted October 13, 2020 Super User Posted October 13, 2020 On 4/9/2018 at 10:25 AM, onenutinthewater said: I have purchased a calcutta conquest BFS reel so far and have paired it with a nice finesse Edge rod OMG, you exactly have same as my combo I recently ordered. Quote
redmeansdistortion Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 I own a few trout baitcast setups; Daiwa Alphas Air Stream Custom with a Major Craft Troutino 4'10" UL, a Daiwa Alphas CT SV with a Major Craft Finetail 6' L, and a Revo ALC-BF7 with a Kuying Teton 5'2" SUL. All three setups work well within their limits. The Alphas CT SV/Finetail setup gets the most use as it's the most versatile of the bunch. Quote
onenutinthewater Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 17 hours ago, ATA said: OMG, you exactly have same as my combo I recently ordered. Sold them both! The calcutta sure is a sweet reel but I found that I prefer low profile reels. After trying way to many rods I found my favorite to be a Loomis koke trolling rod- Kinda odd but works great for throwing a bubble and fly for trout. Kuying Teton is a great rod for smaller trout and crappie. 1 Quote
Super User ATA Posted October 14, 2020 Super User Posted October 14, 2020 20 hours ago, onenutinthewater said: Sold them both! The calcutta sure is a sweet reel but I found that I prefer low profile reels. After trying way to many rods I found my favorite to be a Loomis koke trolling rod- Kinda odd but works great for throwing a bubble and fly for trout. Kuying Teton is a great rod for smaller trout and crappie. Anyways I am going to give a shot this year, the Edge rod I got is 1 power, I want to try skipping the 1/8 and 1/16 with it up the stream. also I have aldaberan 30 size with routing marquis rod. both new set up and going. to play with them this year. here in Southern California, no trout due to some kind of bacteria killed them in all hatcheries, but I am going to hit the road not so long and go after rainbows and browns. 1 Quote
onenutinthewater Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Good luck with receiving your order from Edge- Terrible company to deal with and I will never do business with them again- I cancelled my last rod order after waiting 5 months and hearing a variety of excuses........ Quote
chameleon Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 7:49 PM, onenutinthewater said: Sold them both! The calcutta sure is a sweet reel but I found that I prefer low profile reels. After trying way to many rods I found my favorite to be a Loomis koke trolling rod- Kinda odd but works great for throwing a bubble and fly for trout. Kuying Teton is a great rod for smaller trout and crappie. Thanks again lol! Really enjoying it and its awesome. Have to disagree on the low pro. Round reels all the way lol. I use a trolling rod for spoons and it works really well! Quote
onenutinthewater Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 5 hours ago, chameleon said: Thanks again lol! Really enjoying it and its awesome. Have to disagree on the low pro. Round reels all the way lol. I use a trolling rod for spoons and it works really well! Get yourself a Daiwa Morethan PE and you will never go back to those big round turds? Quote
lunkerboss923 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 I'm a little late to the party, but the ALDEBARAN BFS Limited or the Scorpion BFS. Where have I been? Those are awesome!!! Quote
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