EGbassing Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 I've been frog fishing a lot recently, but the only frog I have is a booyah pad crasher Jr. I'm looking to upgrade soon, but I can't decide which one to get. Any suggestions? And are the LiveTarget frogs worth it? I fish a medium sized, shallow pond with a small amount of cover. Quote
Dens228 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 The Pad Crasher is far and away my favorite. What do you mean by upgrade?? 4 Quote
EGbassing Posted April 5, 2018 Author Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, Dens228 said: The Pad Crasher is far and away my favorite. What do you mean by upgrade?? Yeah, I've heard it's one of the best. And I meant an upgrade in quality to, say, a Spro, or Livetarget. Quote
Dens228 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 I have a few Spro, I don't have any Livetarget. I can tell you in my preference is Booyah over Spro. So I don't think it's an upgrade to Spro. Just my opinion though. I fish frogs A LOT.......... 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 5, 2018 Super User Posted April 5, 2018 The Live Target has more detail, softer rubber, easier to hook up on, but do not last very long. I don't see any difference between the Spro and Pad Crasher, so save your scoots. A completely different frog bait I love is a Deps Bassyrisky. It's not cheap, you really have to swing on the strikes, but it's so weird looking, and works so well when others don't. You'd have to see a video of their action. Sort of a frog/jitterbug thing. 2 Quote
Dens228 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 I find the Pad Crasher a bit easier on hook ups than the Spro. 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 5, 2018 Super User Posted April 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, Dens228 said: I find the Pad Crasher a bit easier on hook ups than the Spro. That might be true. I don't notice, but I use a 7-6 XXH/mod fast flipping stick for frogs, not the typical h/x-fast frog rod. 1 Quote
EGbassing Posted April 5, 2018 Author Posted April 5, 2018 Thanks for all the replies. By the way, has anyone used the River2Sea Spittin' Wa? I'm leaning towards either that, or the pad crasher. Quote
Dtrombly Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 Poppin pad crasher is great, it can be easily walked too. 40 minutes ago, Dens228 said: I find the Pad Crasher a bit easier on hook ups than the Spro. Walks easier too IMO Quote
Scarborough817 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, J Francho said: That might be true. I don't notice, but I use a 7-6 XXH/mod fast flipping stick for frogs, not the typical h/x-fast frog rod. care to elaborate on that choice? Quote
Dens228 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, J Francho said: That might be true. I don't notice, but I use a 7-6 XXH/mod fast flipping stick for frogs, not the typical h/x-fast frog rod. Yep, the typical 7-03, H/Fast set up for me. 1 Quote
TravisVirginiaAngler Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Dens228 said: The Pad Crasher is far and away my favorite. What do you mean by upgrade?? Agree. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 5, 2018 Super User Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Scarborough817 said: care to elaborate on that choice? Most frog rods seem like they're designed for casting a frog, not setting the hook and extracting a large, hooked bass from the slop. I also use a 7-3 H/F in more open water. 2 Quote
Scarborough817 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, J Francho said: Most frog rods seem like they're designed for casting a frog, not setting the hook and extracting a large, hooked bass from the slop. I also use a 7-3 H/F in more open water. i wouldn't disagree with that just seems pretty stout 1 Quote
Super User N Florida Mike Posted April 5, 2018 Super User Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Dens228 said: The Pad Crasher is far and away my favorite. What do you mean by upgrade?? Same here ^^^^ Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 5, 2018 Super User Posted April 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Scarborough817 said: i wouldn't disagree with that just seems pretty stout Probably why I don't think there's much difference in Spro or Pad Crashers, while others have reported hookup issues with the former. Spro were my favorite until the Pad Crashers came out. Quote
sully420 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 Pad crasher all day every day and twice on sunday. I think hook up ratio with frogs has far more to do with timing of the Hooksett than it does with rods. I do use the traditional 7 ft 3 in heavy fast action rod I see no reason why a heavier rod wouldn't work just as well especially in heavy slop or padfields. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 5, 2018 Super User Posted April 5, 2018 ^^^That's a good point about timing. I hear of people waiting to set the hook until they feel the fish. I use brightly colored frogs, and sometimes put a pink sticker on the back, just so I can see it better. I hear a slurp, and there's no more frog, I'm setting the hook. Once in a while I goof up and a frog comes flying back, but mostly I pin the fish, and they stay buttoned. I learned this through a lot of trial and error. 2 Quote
Scarborough817 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, J Francho said: ^^^That's a good point about timing. I hear of people waiting to set the hook until they feel the fish. I use brightly colored frogs, and sometimes put a pink sticker on the back, just so I can see it better. I hear a slurp, and there's no more frog, I'm setting the hook. Once in a while I goof up and a frog comes flying back, but mostly I pin the fish, and they stay buttoned. I learned this through a lot of trial and error. agreed i dont understand the waiting to set the hook, to me it sounds similar to the 3 tap rule with t-rigs and jigs 1 Quote
RichF Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 I'm a Spro guy 100% and I fish a frog A LOT. I've used pad crashers and they work well. They haven't lasted as long as my spros though. Ish's phat frogs are super easy to walk but aren't great for hookups because of their super low profile and small hook gap. I like my Live Targets too but I wouldn't recommend them over Spros or Booyahs. 1 Quote
sully420 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 I definitely don't count to 3 or anything like that it's just a feeling gained from fishing frogs alot. I had the same problem with punching 1oz weights with strait shank hooks. I seem to do better if i give it a moment before i set. I think maby the fish dosent have its weight on the bait at the moment of the strike. If that make any sense. Quote
Scarborough817 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, RichF said: I'm a Spro guy 100% and I fish a frog A LOT. I've used pad crashers and they work well. They haven't lasted as long as my spros though. Ish's phat frogs are super easy to walk but aren't great for hookups because of their super low profile and small hook gap. I like my Live Targets too but I wouldn't recommend them over Spros or Booyahs. test out the jackall kaera too im a spro frog guy and there are a very close second. They're small but a nice frog for just outside the slop or getting into tight spaces 2 Quote
RichF Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, Scarborough817 said: test out the jackall kaera too im a spro frog guy and there are a very close second. They're small but a nice frog for just outside the slop or getting into tight spaces Thanks for the suggestion. I've actually been pretty interested in those, just haven't pulled the trigger because I have a Spro stockpile that's gonna last me the next few years. I had a lot of success last year on the bronzeye jrs early in the season so some smaller profile frogs are more and more intriguing. Quote
CroakHunter Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 56 minutes ago, Scarborough817 said: test out the jackall kaera too im a spro frog guy and there are a very close second. They're small but a nice frog for just outside the slop or getting into tight spaces Can't wait to throw my kaera, with that small profile but still at 1/2 ounce it should be money 2 Quote
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