James Hendrix Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 Just curiosity. Been fishing since I was a teen. I go to new water Im always having to guess by trial and error on color lure to water color. Rolland Martin uses a meter to check to see the color jig or spinner bait or whatever. Is there a chart you can get that tell you the same thing? Quote
Super User Catt Posted April 1, 2018 Super User Posted April 1, 2018 Bass don't read charts! ? 1 4 Quote
JasperP Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 Found this awhile ago. Makes sense for the waters I fish. Hope it helps! 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted April 2, 2018 Super User Posted April 2, 2018 Watermelon, green pumpkin, blk/bl, something with a bit of chartreuse or orange, and/or something that resembles the forage, THE END 2 Quote
Fishing_FF Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Catt said: Bass don't read charts! ? ^^This! I've fished a lake that by Al Linder's water clarity chart would be deemed dirty/murky, but the fish were only hitting watermelon colors. Then on Friday, I fished a lake with some decent visibility, light stain with clear sunny skies. In the couple hours I was out there, I caught 11 and lost 4 more trying to flip them in (bank fish so don't carry a net). They were all caught on green pumpkin or junebug, which according to the color charts are cloudy or dirty. As Catt said, "Bass don't read charts!" 2 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted April 2, 2018 Super User Posted April 2, 2018 You can always buy the ever popular color selector. Allen 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted April 2, 2018 Super User Posted April 2, 2018 One of my most productive night fishing worms is a color called Starry Night, the top is a translucent smoke, the bottom is clear, with tons of silver glitter. I don't know how bass find that worm sitting on the bottom in 20' on a moonless night! One of the most deadly Wacky Worms is Zoom Trick Worm in Merthiolate! In which chart do those two fit? 3 Quote
snake95 Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 Seems like the color discussion can go on forever, and maybe it should. It's always interesting to see what others have experienced. I'd guess the charts give you an idea about what is a reasonable place to start picking out lures. I've been fishing in small, slightly stained (not tannic) Florida ponds and in a single trip yesterday we were nailing them on black trick worms, green/multiflake "honey candy" ocho's, and smoke black blue/gold flake senkos. Pretty sure we busted every chart out there. I like to keep it simple like lots of guys, but I like good sale and we just used the baits I got cheap. Apparently the bass have not been reading the charts here either. 4 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted April 2, 2018 Super User Posted April 2, 2018 I always go back to what an Elite Series angler who is a friend of mine has told me over and over.......Don't get too hung up on color, I separate my colors into 3 groups that get progressively darker.....1. Clear Water 2. Stained Water 3. Muddy water. After that there are some universal colors that work in more than one category. 3 Quote
Dens228 Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 Fishing from I kayak I usually keep a couple of various color Ocho's under my seat to see what is working that day. One day last summer in a small 6 acre pond that had a recent algae bloom and virtually no visibility I was catching large bass on just about every cast........The Ocho's would last a couple fish and I'd have to replace it. I was just grabbing whichever I touched first. I caught bass on every color from light to dark, flecks, solid, two tone........didn't matter. I stopped counting catches at about the 25th bass. What I'd give for another day like that! 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted April 2, 2018 Super User Posted April 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Munkin said: You can always buy the ever popular color selector. Allen I would love to have one of those to play with . If nothing else it should give some clues regarding light penetration . 1 Quote
Super User Cgolf Posted April 2, 2018 Super User Posted April 2, 2018 There chart makes some sense, except I have found clear water to be finicky. Sunny and flat lets more natural colors work best like smoke and some color flake works best while sunny with choppy water or overcast sees colors like water red work the best and the smoke colors shut off. Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted April 2, 2018 Super User Posted April 2, 2018 Not sure how much stock to put into these charts, etc. According to that chart, black is excellent for dirty water, and so is white (sugar). Those are on the opposite ends of the color spectrum. What gives? Also for dirty water, I've always heard black is the best color. Yet, everyone recommends using fire tiger cranks in dirty water. Hmm. 1 Quote
ratherbfishin1 Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said: Not sure how much stock to put into these charts, etc. According to that chart, black is excellent for dirty water, and so is white (sugar). Those are on the opposite ends of the color spectrum. What gives? Also for dirty water, I've always heard black is the best color. Yet, everyone recommends using fire tiger cranks in dirty water. Hmm Yep, IMO it is impossible to make a completely accurate color chart. So much of colors is guess and check at times. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted April 2, 2018 Super User Posted April 2, 2018 We got five inches of snow yesterday .So I restrung and lubed the five bait-casters that I usually fish with . These are the five lures that were tied on those combos from last years final trip . The waters I fished are stained . See a common theme . I like chartreuse in stained water . Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 2, 2018 Super User Posted April 2, 2018 There isn't any scientific proof how the basses brain interprets what their eye sees underwater. Lots of speculation based on the eye ball construction that have both rods and cones the bass can see colors. After over 60 years of bass fishing it's my conclusion we don't have a clue what bass see regarding colors. My favorite choice of colors based on lots of hours on the water that give me enough confidence to continue using them may in fact not be the best colors at that particular time and conditions. For example crawdads where I fish are not black/purple/brown, my most successful jig colors, the crawdads appear to be redish brown with tan undersides the majority of the year. Black jigs work, green jigs work, white jigs works, we don't have crawdads in those colors where I fish. Fast moving lures like crankbaits my favorite colors are pearl white with greenish/blue highlites and dark red with black backs, both work year around, day or night. Everyone likes green pumpkin soft plastics, this a poor choice of color where I fish, purple works far better the majority of the time. If everyone is only fishing a popular color, the majority of bass will be caught on that color, do to the odds, may not be the color the bass prefer. Tom 3 Quote
All about da bass Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 Here's a simple color chart that I go by when I'm fishing different water clarity and this is what helps me catch fish, my opinion guys: Stained: black and blue, junebug, white, chartreuse. Depending on if it's a shad lake or what. Clear: Watermelon seed, watermelon red, green pumpkin, bluegill colors, really anything natural. nothing wild. The baits I would use in those conditions would be: Stained: Rattletrap, spinnerbait, chatterbait, squarebill, Texas rig, Carolina rig, wacky rig. Clear: Jerkbait, spinnerbait,chatterbait, squarebill, Texas rig, Carolina rig, wacky rig, ned rig, dropshot. 1 Quote
James Hendrix Posted April 4, 2018 Author Posted April 4, 2018 Ok dark color black blue. Clear watermelon. What you guess for water like Lake Panasofee. Cloudy brown rust color. Im thinking dark there to cause from my point of view there is little to no visability. Am I tight? Quote
All about da bass Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Sounds great, I know from fishing in Florida that they love black and blue. Yeah just stick to that simple chart and you should catch, no you will. Good luck bro. I'll do some looking at that lake and tell you what I think will work. 1 Quote
All about da bass Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 From what it looks like, it looks shallow with the most abundant cover being grass. I would throw: swimbaits, punch rigs, Texas rigs, lipless cranks, frogs, and maybe even a jig. As far as colors go for those baits, I would go crawfish color for the spring, black and blue muddy, white shad colors. Watermelon seed or watermelon red. for semi clear to clear. I see two or three creeks running into it, maybe the fish are near those areas. Tight lines!!!! 1 Quote
RUSS9999 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/2/2018 at 8:42 AM, scaleface said: I would love to have one of those to play with . If nothing else it should give some clues regarding light penetration . I have a color selector. The only time I use it is when I can not get a bite. It has turned a day with no fish in to a day with lots of fish for me many times over the years. Me and a friend was on the water for 5 hours one day and had 1 bass. We sowed them just about everything in every color. I put it in the water, it said brown and orange. We both went to brown and orange cranks and it was a bass about every cast the rest of the day. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted April 4, 2018 Super User Posted April 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, RUSS9999 said: I have a color selector. The only time I use it is when I can not get a bite. It has turned a day with no fish in to a day with lots of fish for me many times over the years. Me and a friend was on the water for 5 hours one day and had 1 bass. We sowed them just about everything in every color. I put it in the water, it said brown and orange. We both went to brown and orange cranks and it was a bass about every cast the rest of the day. At Thomas Hill ? 1 Quote
RUSS9999 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, scaleface said: At Thomas Hill ? Yes and Forest Lake at Thousand Hill State Park. The day it gave brown and orange was at Forest lake Quote
Super User scaleface Posted April 4, 2018 Super User Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, RUSS9999 said: Yes and Forest Lake at Thousand Hill State Park. The day it gave brown and orange was at Forest lake I've seen Thomas Hill bass get quite picky a couple of times .Once , I was fishing with a guy who was wearing them out on a Bomber Model A . I tried a bunch of other crankbaits and zilch . Finally tied on a Model A and got in the game . Color didnt matter this day but lure action did . 1 Quote
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