Fluorocarbon for frogs

[Justbass11]

I have been reading on an older post about using braided line for frog fishing. My question is this, Is fluorocarbon ok to use for frog fishing? Thanks for all the input 

[CroakHunter]

Fluorocarbon sinks and has stretch in it. That is 2 things you don't want when frog fishing. It would greatly affect the action and your hook up percentage would be super low I feel like. Minimum 40lb braid for frogging

[Glenn]

Braid is best for frog fishing.  I explain the reasons why, plus a whole lot more about frog fishing in this video:

 

 

[iceintheveins]

Fluoro would be awful for frogs. Braid is the way to go. No lighter than 50 pound imo. Sixty five or heavier is best in really heavy cover where bass over 5 pounds are common.

[Boomstick]

No, fluorocarbon is the worst option for frog fishing (worse than even mono, because it sinks). Use 40-65lb braid for frogs, depending on the cover.

[soflabasser]

I use 30 pound test powerpro braid for my frogging and so far it has done a fine job at helping me land several bass in the +8 pound class. Make sure to use a rod with a stiff backbone and set the hook after the frog disappears.

[LionHeart]

18 hours ago, iceintheveins said:

Fluoro would be awful for frogs. Braid is the way to go. No lighter than 50 pound imo. Sixty five or heavier is best in really heavy cover where bass over 5 pounds are common.

I'm not trying to be funny or confrontational, but why would you prefer a line that can hold 65 lbs when the fish weighs 5 lbs and your rod would likely snap <20 lbs?

 

Serious question as I've read other people saying the same thing.  Why would 50 lb test not be up to the task? Or even 30 lb for that matter?

[sully420]

4 minutes ago, LionHeart said:

I'm not trying to be funny or confrontational, but why would you prefer a line that can hold 65 lbs when the fish weighs 5 lbs and your rod would likely snap <20 lbs?

 

Serious question as I've read other people saying the same thing.  Why would 50 lb test not be up to the task? Or even 30 lb for that matter?

I use 65lb braid because i like the thicker line. Its more buoyant and helps me keep my line and frog from getting caught under pads.

[WRB]

Fluorocarbon line offers nothing over premium mono/copolymer lines for bass fishing with 1 possible exception; it's heavier then water with less coeffiecent of drag. No reason to use FC for any top water lure presentation. Less stretch with FC is a myth, weaker knot strength is a fact. Braid is the right choice for frog fishing.

Tom

[MassYak85]

3 hours ago, LionHeart said:

I'm not trying to be funny or confrontational, but why would you prefer a line that can hold 65 lbs when the fish weighs 5 lbs and your rod would likely snap <20 lbs?

 

Serious question as I've read other people saying the same thing.  Why would 50 lb test not be up to the task? Or even 30 lb for that matter?

A few reasons. Biggest is probably line diameter, 65lb braid is like using 12-15lb mono. It's not very thick for it's breaking strength. Using 20 or 30lb braid with a locked down drag like is often done in frog fishing will cause you nightmares with the line digging into itself on the spool. 

 

Another reason is frog fishing is usually done in and amount some of the thickest cover you will encounter in bass fishing. If you hook a double digit fish 50 yards back into a lilypad bed with stalks the thickness of your finger are you going to trust 20lb braid to not only move the fish, but get the fish out of all the vegetation it dragged your line through during the fight?

 

 

[WRB]

Braid cuts through vegetation, FC or any mono doesn't. You don't want to pull on small dia 20-30 lb braid with your fingers, it cuts them! 50-65 lb braid is easier to handle without cutting you. Braid doesn't stretch so remember that when locking down your drags, your rod can't apply enough force to break braid, your rod breaks first.

Tom

 

[shovelmouth83]

i use 30lbs braid and like everyone else has said floro is a no go for my frogs. i have tried other things and it just does not work like straight braid. when that frog is out there the fish does not care about the braid. 

[iceintheveins]

On 3/28/2018 at 11:45 AM, LionHeart said:

I'm not trying to be funny or confrontational, but why would you prefer a line that can hold 65 lbs when the fish weighs 5 lbs and your rod would likely snap <20 lbs?

 

Serious question as I've read other people saying the same thing.  Why would 50 lb test not be up to the task? Or even 30 lb for that matter?

The main reason is that when frogging you're generally fishing very heavy cover, especially heavy vegetation. You need all the strength and lack of stretch you can get to horse the fish out of cover. Even a two pounder will dive down and tangle up badly in thick weeds. You pull the fish back with about 10 pounds of salad usually.

[WRB]

Read my post, 20-30 lb braid cuts your fingers....do you plan on lifting that 5 lb bass with your rod?

Tom

[All about da bass]

If you have short strikers, your problem is gonna be ripping it out of their mouths. Braid has zero stretch. As soon as you pull that rod up that hook is either firmly set or the frog is coming out of that fishes mouth. I only straight braid when I'm fishing heavy cover. Almost always, I will use a mono leader, because it floats and it gives just enough stretch to get the right hook set in that fishes face. I've lost a really major tournament last year because I was ripping my frog outta their mouths. I don't know but that just helps me.

[Justbass11]

On 3/27/2018 at 5:35 PM, Glenn said:

Braid is best for frog fishing.  I explain the reasons why, plus a whole lot more about frog fishing in this video:

 

 

Thanks Glenn for this video, it was most helpful.  I learn a few things that I didn’t know before about fishing with a frog. 

[WRB]

Just curious, what lb test mono do you use as a leader and what length??

Tom

[fishnkamp]

The reason you read most people use braid with frogs is that it works!  65 pound Power Pro is the line most anglers use.  You will need to learn how to wait till you feel the fish not just see the big splash, but that is just the facts of fishing a frog. Period!

[burrows]

On 3/27/2018 at 1:56 PM, Justbass11 said:

I have been reading on an older post about using braided line for frog fishing. My question is this, Is fluorocarbon ok to use for frog fishing? Thanks for all the input 

Yes it’s ok if that’s what you got on your reel at moment it will work just fine not your best option but it will work.

[Glenn]

2 hours ago, Justbass11 said:

Thanks Glenn for this video, it was most helpful.  I learn a few things that I didn’t know before about fishing with a frog. 

You're welcome!  Happy to help!

[puddlepuncher]

3 hours ago, WRB said:

Read my post, 20-30 lb braid cuts your fingers....do you plan on lifting that 5 lb bass with your rod?

Tom

 

Good thing bass come with a nice handle to pick them up.  Braid cuts are horrible, so much so I don't even grab mono line anymore out of fear of horrible memories.

[All about da bass]

10 hours ago, WRB said:

Just curious, what lb test mono do you use as a leader and what length??

Tom

Seventeen if near thin cover like grass, 25 heavy cover. Foot and a half. Not trying to hate on everybody that said braid. Just saying what worked for me.

Longer leader for clearer water and shorter leader for dirty water.

[WRB]

My point is it takes about 1/3rd the tensile strength of mono to start to stretch it.

17#is about 6 pounds pulling force, 25# is over 8 pounds. Try lifting a gallon plastic bottle with your frog rod, it can't! 6 lbs would be max with a heavy flipping rod.

If you believe the short 2' mono is giving you a shock absorber, then it works for you.

Tom

[LionHeart]

11 hours ago, iceintheveins said:

The main reason is that when frogging you're generally fishing very heavy cover, especially heavy vegetation. You need all the strength and lack of stretch you can get to horse the fish out of cover. Even a two pounder will dive down and tangle up badly in thick weeds. You pull the fish back with about 10 pounds of salad usually.

That's kinda my point of confusion.  When you say "horse them out of cover" I imagine you mean with your rod which would break under well below 50 lb of force, so why would 50 lb braid not be more than adequate based on the reason you gave?  Are you hand lining the beast out of cover?

 

I totally get the line dig and flesh cutting aspect of smaller braid.  That makes perfect sense.

 

 

[J Francho]

It's really as simple as 50# braid handles like 12# mono.  No other practical reason.  The rod isn't going to break, if the drag is set properly and sensibly.