Panoptix vs 360?

[DropShotHotShot]

Currently have a helix 9 si at dash, networked to a helix 7 on bow.  This works great for fishing isolated bolders found while ideling.

 

I want to add a structer finding device to the bow, thinking of either adding another helix and HB 360 or panoptix with a Garmin unit.

 

considerationsfor 360, already familiar with helix, but would need to add an network switch, and preferable another display unit.

 

Considerations for panoptics, i would buy the ice kit for winter (1/2 our fishing yearin MN) couldn't add waypoints on structure found and have it share to other units.

 

Interested in hearing who has used both or either.  What is one to do?

[Sprocket]

Remember, 360 is showing you history.  Panoptix is showing you live.

 

SE Kansas grass grower

[DropShotHotShot]

2 hours ago, Sprocket said:

Remember, 360 is showing you history.  Panoptix is showing you live.

 

SE Kansas grass grower

Thinking out loud, it is diffidently a trade off to showing the full 360 view around the boat in a slight delay vs. real time for a narrower field of view.

 

My other concern is how clear structure shows up on the panoptic.  examples on the ice show a clear crisp picture but the transducer is not moving.  I am curious how clear rocks and fish towards the bottom show up on panoptix when the transducer is moving with the waves.

[Further North]

15 hours ago, Sprocket said:

Remember, 360 is showing you history.  Panoptix is showing you live.

 

SE Kansas grass grower

Not by enough to matter, if you focus 360° in one area...

 

On 3/21/2018 at 7:37 PM, DropShotHotShot said:

Currently have a helix 9 si at dash, networked to a helix 7 on bow.  This works great for fishing isolated bolders found while ideling.

 

I want to add a structer finding device to the bow, thinking of either adding another helix and HB 360 or panoptix with a Garmin unit.

 

considerationsfor 360, already familiar with helix, but would need to add an network switch, and preferable another display unit.

 

Considerations for panoptics, i would buy the ice kit for winter (1/2 our fishing yearin MN) couldn't add waypoints on structure found and have it share to other units.

 

Interested in hearing who has used both or either.  What is one to do?

 

I'm puzzled as to why you would add a third Helix to show 360°?

 

I run a 10" at the bow, a 12" at the console, networked, and it shows up just fine on both.

[DropShotHotShot]

10 hours ago, Further North said:

 

I'm puzzled as to why you would add a third Helix to show 360°?

 

I run a 10" at the bow, a 12" at the console, networked, and it shows up just fine on both.

I only have a 7" at my bow, I think it would be difficult to see the 360 along with the map and 2d sonar.   however, I could run that for a season, and add another unit in the future.

 

first world problems for sure...

Cost wise they will be very similar, I will have to add the Ethernet hub and buy a bracket to mount the 360 to my Terrova. 

 

Buying a 7" Garmin on sale and the panoptix PS22 transducer would run me about the same overall.

 

thanks for the replies so far, I am still on the fence.  I think the Panoptix holds a bit of an edge because it can be used on the ice too, but I think the 360 would be a quicker learning curve.

 

[Further North]

1 hour ago, DropShotHotShot said:

I only have a 7" at my bow, I think it would be difficult to see the 360 along with the map and 2d sonar.   however, I could run that for a season, and add another unit in the future.

That'd make sense - I'd agree on the 7" not being big enough.

 

In my case, I'd sell it and just go bigger up there, but I can't stand clutter on my decks and an extra Helix would drive me batty...about the third time a fly line wrapped itself about the extra unit, something would have to go.

 

I've been intrigued by Panopitx for a while, I think it's exceptionally interesting tech...but I really like the integration of Humminbird and Minn Kota (there are days when half the day the Ulterra is running from the Helix and I don't touch the remote other than to start, stop or change speeds)...and, as above, don't want more clutter aboard.

[Chrisko]

What about compatibility? You run Hummingbird and use their transducer (for your two finders, presumably).  Now, you want to add a garmin.  Does the Panoptix ICE version transducer only do the Panoptix?  Or it it a full transducer which also has Panoptix?  I should know this, as I run Garmin and have given peripheral thought to the panoptix.  I believe running multiple transducers (assuming the same frequencies, etc. . . ) can cause problems.

 

I was on a boat recently that was running the panoptix live.  Not so sure that it sold me enough (guess that's why my research didn't take off).  I like what I have seen from the 360 - but that is only via videos, not in person experiences.

 

For me with Garmin EchoMap Ultra - I would like to see a bit better results from the panoptix before plunking another $1,000+ for it (or whatever it costs to add it on all said and done - presumably including adding another screen to boot).