Heron Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 Are there any specific circumstances when you would choose a jig instead of a tube for smallmouth? or vice versa? thx Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 15, 2018 Super User Posted March 15, 2018 For smallies, a tube seems considerably more effective for me than a jig. I'll fish a jig in deep wood quite a bit and there are times when a football jig is pretty killer. But my confidence in the tube has me reaching for one more times than not. A-Jay 3 Quote
desmobob Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, A-Jay said: For smallies, a tube seems considerably more effective for me than a jig. I'll fish a jig in deep wood quite a bit and there are times when a football jig is pretty killer. But my confidence in the tube has me reaching for one more times than not. A-Jay +1 As crayfish-eaters, I had figured that a 1/4 oz. skirted jig with a craw trailer would clean up on smallies but, in my experience, they definitely seem to prefer tubes. Tight lines, Bob 2 Quote
Heron Posted March 15, 2018 Author Posted March 15, 2018 Makes sense I wasnt really seeing much sense in throwing a jig instead of a tube, unless circumstances demanded it. Guess I'll find out when I get on the water. In the meantime, when bank fishing for smallmouth....Im finding the Fat Ika, and the 3 inch Senko have been the most productive for me so far. Quote
mattkenzer Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, A-Jay said: For smallies, a tube seems considerably more effective for me than a jig. I'll fish a jig in deep wood quite a bit and there are times when a football jig is pretty killer. But my confidence in the tube has me reaching for one more times than not. A-Jay 8 minutes ago, desmobob said: +1 As crayfish-eaters, I had figured that a 1/4 oz. skirted jig with a craw trailer would clean up on smallies but, in my experience, they definitely seem to prefer tubes. Tight lines, Bob I agree with A-Jay and desmobob on skirted jigs vs. a tube. I rarely use a skirted jig on smallmouth unless i am swimming it. I do however, use a non-skirted jig and craw more often than not. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted March 15, 2018 Super User Posted March 15, 2018 I've only limited experience fishing for lake smallmouth, but a bit more in rivers. In swift smallmouth rivers, I can clean up with jigs, but can't buy a bite with a tube. I readily admit that lack of success leads to lack of confidence and a lot less usage, but I like to think that I've given tubes a fair chance on multiple occasions. Quote
mattkenzer Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Choporoz said: I've only limited experience fishing for lake smallmouth, but a bit more in rivers. In swift smallmouth rivers, I can clean up with jigs, but can't buy a bite with a tube. I readily admit that lack of success leads to lack of confidence and a lot less usage, but I like to think that I've given tubes a fair chance on multiple occasions. Interesting .... Are you using a skirted Jig? What size? Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted March 15, 2018 Super User Posted March 15, 2018 Almost always 'finesse jigs' - both because of the weight and the flared/front skirt. I have mostly Sieberts, but I've used others like Buckeye. The lightest ones I want the current to take and bounce down river through the rocks -- a bit heavier, not more than 1/2oz to stay closer to the bottom and move a bit subtler 2 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 15, 2018 Global Moderator Posted March 15, 2018 I seem to catch more numbers of smallmouth on a tube, but bigger ones on a jig. I like a 1/2oz football jig for them if I can get away with it. 4 1 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted March 15, 2018 Super User Posted March 15, 2018 My success with a tube over a skirted jig is a direct correlation to carrying no skirted jigs in my tackle bag... I catch more smallmouth with a jighead/curly tail grub than a tube if that matters to you. oe 1 Quote
WI_Angler1989 Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 I fish both a LOT. Probably 70% tubes 30% finesse jigs. There are times when one is the better choice and gets hit more, but usually if one works for me the other does too. I will say that I catch a lot of fish and sizes on a tube, but the average size on a jig tends to be bigger. 1 Quote
mattkenzer Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 I am going to give the skirted jig (bottom contact) an honest effort on the Smallies this year .... Thanks. PS: Many years ago, i thought the only thing to catch smallmouth was an Avocado Color Tube. Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted March 15, 2018 Super User Posted March 15, 2018 Tubes are the clear winner in this fight for me. River Smallies love a Zoom Salty Super Tube! 2 Quote
PatrickKnight Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 I prefer tubes to skirted jigs but in the river I fish I will take a jig head tipped with a grub or swim bait over them both. Quote
Super User Spankey Posted March 15, 2018 Super User Posted March 15, 2018 4 hours ago, OkobojiEagle said: My success with a tube over a skirted jig is a direct correlation to carrying no skirted jigs in my tackle bag... I catch more smallmouth with a jighead/curly tail grub than a tube if that matters to you. oe 1 hour ago, PatrickKnight said: I prefer tubes to skirted jigs but in the river I fish I will take a jig head tipped with a grub or swim bait over them both. I love a Roadkill tube, but I'd like $.10 for every Smallie I've caught on a 3" Power, Mr. T or Kalins Grub since the 1970's 1 Quote
desmobob Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Spankey said: I love a Roadkill tube, but I'd like $.10 for every Smallie I've caught on a 3" Power, Mr. T or Kalins Grub since the 1970's I think I have enough Kalins' grubs to last me the rest of my life. Fish catchers! Tight lines, Bob Quote
WI_Angler1989 Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 12 hours ago, desmobob said: I think I have enough Kalins' grubs to last me the rest of my life. Fish catchers! Tight lines, Bob "Enough" Kalin's grubs? What's that?! I always have room for another pack of Lunker Grubs hahaha 1 Quote
PatrickKnight Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 I used the heck out of a 3 inch Kalins for a while but my go to has changed to the 4 inch Yamamoto in green pumpkin. I do love that smoke hologram color Kalins has though. Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 I'm going to go a little against the grain here. I fish tubes and grubs quite a bit, and they're excellent numbers baits for me. They're both great producers in both lakes and rivers. Sometimes, smallies just want something drug across the bottom or something that I can work fast vertically, and jigs are the best option. If I need to pitch into small current breaks in fast current, into lay downs along banks, etc I'm almost definitely using an arky jig of some sort. Similarly, If I want to keep good bottom contact and swing something down and across or worked slowly across a run with small to medium sized rocks (not boulders) football heads are the only option and this is something I do quite a bit. Sometimes in or along faster current a reaction bit is the ticket. Other times, I've noticed that slower presentations worked along the tails of islands, weed edges, etc immediately adjacent to fast current can be money for larger fish. The only way I know to do this well without a whole lot of frustration is a 3/8-3/4oz football jig. I pretty much always keep all of the above tied up on a river and let the fish, the conditions, and what presents best where they're holding be what determine which options I favor. On lakes, I'll use where fish are holding to determine which I'm going to throw first, but if I'm fishing for smallmouth, barring chocolate milk conditions, this is rarely ever a time when I don't have a tube and a jig rod on deck from March thru December. Tubes catch lots of fish. Jigs catch mostly big fish. 2 1 Quote
J.Vincent Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Here in Michigan I have a lot of confidence in tubes, they have great versatility and can mimic gobies or crawfish , and just seem to catch greater numbers of fish....However, my biggest Smallies have actually been caught on 1/2 oz BlackBlue Skirted Jigs, off shallow rock piles at night. So I think , low light situations are one circumstance when the bulkier skirted jig should be a better choice. Just my two cents : ) 2 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted March 20, 2018 Super User Posted March 20, 2018 On our annual trip to Lake St Clair those smallies see their fair share of tubes and to be honest in the early years that's the main bait I threw. As time went on, I found some alternative plastics that gave me 75+ fish days. Not suprisingly, the Yamamoto double tail Hula grub has been a top producer on a 1/4 oz gamakatsu football head jig. Likewise a 5" senko on the same jig head has been my secret bait for years. I rarely throw a tube anymore. Quote
Heron Posted March 20, 2018 Author Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, TOXIC said: On our annual trip to Lake St Clair those smallies see their fair share of tubes and to be honest in the early years that's the main bait I threw. As time went on, I found some alternative plastics that gave me 75+ fish days. Not suprisingly, the Yamamoto double tail Hula grub has been a top producer on a 1/4 oz gamakatsu football head jig. Likewise a 5" senko on the same jig head has been my secret bait for years. I rarely throw a tube anymore. What size hula grubs? 4” or 5”? Quote
Heron Posted March 20, 2018 Author Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, TOXIC said: On our annual trip to Lake St Clair those smallies see their fair share of tubes and to be honest in the early years that's the main bait I threw. As time went on, I found some alternative plastics that gave me 75+ fish days. Not suprisingly, the Yamamoto double tail Hula grub has been a top producer on a 1/4 oz gamakatsu football head jig. Likewise a 5" senko on the same jig head has been my secret bait for years. I rarely throw a tube anymore. What size hula grubs? 4” or 5”? Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted March 20, 2018 Super User Posted March 20, 2018 Normally 4 inch because the gamakatsu football head jig is only a 2.0 hook. 1 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted March 23, 2018 Super User Posted March 23, 2018 A follow up to those that prefer jigs for bigger fish - has anyone used a “mop” jig with success for smallmouth? I’ve only used it for largemouth, but with its big profile would it work well for smb too or a bit overpowering? Quote
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