CyBasser Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Hmmmmmmmm, I have been watching this thread quietly and is so interesting to see all the different opinions regarding the pros/cons of GYCB vs the "others" (I would rather not use the word "knock-off").... Well, here is another point of view (which actually has been stated before in this thread) but from the angle of someone who has not as readily access to all the goodies described above because of living about 4000 miles away from the majority of the people in this forum.... I happen to live on the Mediterranean island of Cyprus, which is privileged with some nice (sometimes fantastic) largemouth bass fishing. The downside of the coin is that the lure selection in regards of soft plastics available off-the-shelf here in stores is very limited. As a result, the terms "cheaper" and "value for money" get a different meaning. The only two brands of soft plastics available in stores here are Berkley and GYCB - and even then not the whole lines of lures (for example, we don't have the beast or the kreature) or the whole range of colors. Yet, thanks to the internet, we can order practically everything from the US - but as a result, what might be cheaper in the US ends up being more expensive here (shipping, customs, etc). Regarding stickbaits, I have used and still use the following: GYCB senko, Yum Dinger, ***. My first batch of Tiki stickworms is also on its way. For me GYCB is by far the cheapest. So yes, I tend to use them more than the other brands. Do they work nice? You bet they do! Where did I catch my second best largemouth? On an ***. Do the Yum Dinger work? I ran out of my first batch of dingers before I even realized it thanks to mr largemouth. Do I have confidence in them? Yes, I do have lots of confidence in all three brands. I usually have all three with me on each outing. What do I use? Whichever I decide at that particular moment, though (surprise!) I tend to use senkos more because they are readily available to me and they end up being cheaper for me even with their high rate of destruction! Do I notice any other differences? Surely, they all sink in very slightly different rates, but then a change of the type or size of hook can still make them exactly similar in that respect! So, I think it's really irrelevant to argue that one brand is absolutely better than the others. It is up to the individual angler to decide what is best for him/her. And I believe it is up to the angler to make the stickworm (of whichever brand) to appeal to the bass. I fully understand that certain anglers (whether pro or pleasure ones) do stick to a particular brand because of sponsorship or personal confidence. But, as far as I am concerned, they all work the same - and hey - let's not give the bass themselves more credit in respect of preference than they really deserve. Even in highly pressured waters I really doubt that the bass which see in front of them the tantalizing sink of a stickbait think "Oh, this is senko, the other is dinger, senko is better I'll get that" or v.v. This may be true with some lure types to some extend, but there is no way it happens with the stickbaits! It all boils down to personal preferences, confidence, and individual economics. So let's all enjoy the stick lures which we prefer and let the manufacturers (don't take this personal Brent, you have made an excellent stickbait!) figure out how to "beat" the competition and make even better lures for us end-users! Tight lines! Quote
Guest the_muddy_man Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Hey Rocket: I ain't taking anything personal so please don't either ;D I take a lot of guys fishing for the first time, so I have a routine and I stick to it. I always give them the best I have, it makes them see the possibilities. The smiles you get are worth more than 4 bucks stuck in trees 8-) Quote
Cajun1977 Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 good post cybasser, ive got no problems with using the cheaper knockoffs i just prefer gycb cause im loyal to his product.if i had started fishing yum dingers and caught with them then i would buy them all up but i didnt so i stock up on gycb.he has earned my trust in a quality product and now i am a loyal customer. its a confidence thing and a loyalty thing for me Quote
ROCKETRICEFARMER Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 muddy I respect what your saying and can agree with it as well. I just wasn't trying to make that the point of my post. It was more of a way to recycle your senkos and save money. I threw an idea out and wanted to see if i got any feed back. I started out with senkos and i'm confident in their ability to catch fish. I also like to catch fish with other baits too. I am going to order a few bags from *.com because they had some colors i like and there prices are low. If i like them it's a huge save in the long run. Quote
CyBasser Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 nothing personal here. sounds like one of the most honest, unbiased posts i've heard in a while. Seems fairly easy to infer that had one of the brands of stickbaits had a significant cost break (say, if you lived in the U.S. and could get the full variety) then you would probably be more likely to take advantage of that. 8-) again, great writing. brent Thanks Brent! Quote
CyBasser Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 good post cybasser, ive got no problems with using the cheaper knockoffs i just prefer gycb cause im loyal to his product.if i had started fishing yum dingers and caught with them then i would buy them all up but i didnt so i stock up on gycb.he has earned my trust in a quality product and now i am a loyal customer. its a confidence thing and a loyalty thing for me Thanks Cajun! I fully understand the loyalty issue. I do tend to be loyal to certain brands in respect of particular bits and pieces of my tackle, and actually being loyal significantly increases the confidence factor. Yet, on the other hand, I am always willing to try something new, sometimes a small detail might make the difference. It has happenned to me with lipless crankbaits - I tried several different models from several manufacturers through the years, with no bias to any single one of them. Two models (both from the same company) have been producing so well for me though (compared to all the other ones I tried) that more or less I am now "loyal" to the company and the particular models. Yes, I do try other new lipless models I might run into, but there is now the inevitable "comparison" thing, and for more than a year I have remained loyal to these particular brand and models.... I guess this is all part of the great attraction of bass fishing.... Quote
Super User T-rig Posted June 21, 2007 Super User Posted June 21, 2007 good post cybasser, ive got no problems with using the cheaper knockoffs i just prefer gycb cause im loyal to his product.if i had started fishing yum dingers and caught with them then i would buy them all up but i didnt so i stock up on gycb.he has earned my trust in a quality product and now i am a loyal customer. its a confidence thing and a loyalty thing for me Thanks Cajun! I fully understand the loyalty issue. I do tend to be loyal to certain brands in respect of particular bits and pieces of my tackle, and actually being loyal significantly increases the confidence factor. Yet, on the other hand, I am always willing to try something new, sometimes a small detail might make the difference. It has happenned to me with lipless crankbaits - I tried several different models from several manufacturers through the years, with no bias to any single one of them. Two models (both from the same company) have been producing so well for me though (compared to all the other ones I tried) that more or less I am now "loyal" to the company and the particular models. Yes, I do try other new lipless models I might run into, but there is now the inevitable "comparison" thing, and for more than a year I have remained loyal to these particular brand and models.... I guess this is all part of the great attraction of bass fishing.... I bet you're talking about Lucky Craft lipless cranks! Great post by the way! Quote
CyBasser Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 I bet you're talking about Lucky Craft lipless cranks! Great post by the way! Hi Daniel, Thanks for your comment! And, hmmm, nope, I am not talking about LC... Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted June 21, 2007 Super User Posted June 21, 2007 muddy I respect what your saying and can agree with it as well. I just wasn't trying to make that the point of my post. It was more of a way to recycle your senkos and save money. I threw an idea out and wanted to see if i got any feed back. I got your point now....Again, my mistake. You are right, that is a great way to save your baits and make the most of them. You may do this also already, but save the ripped up texas rigged ones and use them wacky rigged. Definitely extends the life of each bait and increases the fish per bait ratio. Welcome aboard. Wayne Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted June 21, 2007 Super User Posted June 21, 2007 loyalty is good im very loyal to Manns i caught my personal best 10.4 oz here in maryland 1985 .But i dont just use manns baits i use what works its a lot more fun catching bass then wondering if,,,, GYCB ,tom Mann, creme, lauri rapala, etc,, etc ,, Are pi??ed im not using there baits 8-) Quote
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