YAMAMOTO VS OTHERS (soft plastic)

[T-rig]

For those of you that like Yamamoto products you should try some of these Megabass Vios Project

softbaits which come in different shapes and sizes. These things are as soft if not softer then Yamamoto

products and last forever (almost ). They also have scent added to them.

[berkley]

never heard  of them

[CK14]

yamamoto products a.) fall apart easy and b.) are expensive. but are they worth it? HE11 YEAH!

[.dsaavedra.]

does anyone know who exactly came up w/ the first soft plastic stickbait? was it GY himself? or did he "steal" it from someone else? i'd like to know.

i cant afford GYCB lures. i just cant. so therefore, i like to buy the otherstuff. imo they work just as well, and alot of times you can get more baits for a lower price. i say its all about confidence and money. use what you like, and what you can afford.

and face it...ALL SOFT PLASTICS GET TORN UP!!!!! its a part of life. the ONLY softplastic bait i have found that doesnt get torn up after several fish is the strike king 3x. thast because they are so strechy that they dont rip, they just...strech.

[mattm]

I think that slug-gos advertise on their package that they are the first horizontal falling worm(essentially a stick bait).  Not sure if this is true though.

[Pintail55]

Everything is expensive, get used to it!!! I love Yamamoto baits they are my confidence and go to for everything bait. I usally only get to fish hard on the weekends so to me why would I fish high priced equipment a nice boat and gear and not throw the best. The bait is acually the thing that catches fish so I'm going to throw what I BELIEVE to be the best. There are other good soft plastics out there, I've even bought a pack of 50 hand poured sticks from ebay for $15, they fish good and look just like yammy's but I don't feel as cofident with them.

This morning I went out and caught 20 fish in 2 hours most over 2 1/2 largest being right at 5, and I went through a whole pack of creatures 3 sticks and 4 ikas, was the money well spent HECK YES it was.  Just one mans opinion

[phase5supply]

They are the best I have used, they are soft, that is what makes the work so well. I have found rigging them from the head first then after it tears rig from the tail and then rig it wacky you can use it longer and catch more fish on them. For the fish they produce I feel like they are a great value a 6 bucks a pack. 3 fish per bait, 10 baits per pack= 30 fish divided by $6.00 = .50 cents per fish, WOW what a bargain!

[Jeff H]

Revolutionized Bass fishing??  Holy geez....I wouldn't extend the guy THAT much credit.  

[flukester]

Iv been using Yamamota for soft plastics....thats all i use....

i just got some Kreatures, but havnt fished them yet, im excited,

but anyway.....

How do you guys compare Yamamoto vs others????such as tiki, ect?

are they worth the money? or am i just as good with someother senko-like worms???

July issue of FLW outdoors has a product review on soft stickbaits! Good review too, your question will be answered!

Short question- is Yamamoto plastics overrated???

THANKS

[galv]

i've been using the strike king shaw's pro series 5" salty stick recently.  i think they are most like senkos out of all the many stick baits i've tried and are relatively inexpensive.  just doing a quick internet search, i can't really find much information about them, so maybe they don't make them anymore.  wish i'd known i'd like them so much.  i would have bought a lot more last time i stocked up on baits.

i've also been using tiki sticks, yum dingers, mann's hardnose.   maybe the senkos are the best but i've caught good fish with all of the knockoffs as well.

[Guest avid]

Actually Gene Larew invented the salt impregnated baits in 81  and also the patent  

Yes, he did.  All Kudo's (and royalties) to Mr. Larew.

But he didn't realize the potential of his invention.  He added a little salt for flavor, but it was Gary Y. who saturated the plastic with salt and gave it a completely different action.  It is why Gary Yamamoto baits are well known to all bassers and Larew's to a relative few.

Revolutionize the industry is too much credit?

Not IMHO.   The senko casts easily on any equipment, will draw strikes when nothing else works, and if wacky rigged with a circle or octopus hook can be put in the hands of a 5 year old and he/she can catch bass.

I ask you.  How many "knock off" companies were out there before GYCB?  

Why are his baits the first ones the knock off companies feature?

You may think his stuff is too expensive and that the knock offs are just as good.

Fine, but please do not bash the man.  

His accomplishments have earned him our respect.

Avid has spoken  

[The Next KVD]

If u can afford them use yamamoto. The action is just soooooooooo much better than other brands because of the softer plastic and salt content.  

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

If u can afford them use yamamoto. The action is just soooooooooo much better than other brands because of the softer plastic and salt content.  

Not in my fishtank and not in the neighbors pool, must be the water you're throwing in

And I understand how larger size salt can make them rip much quicker but I don't see where this is relevant to "action"  

[Guest avid]

And I understand how larger size salt can make them rip much quicker but I don't see where this is relevant to "action"

At the risk of sounding rude, this thread is beginning to turn into nonesense.  Let's put all brand loyalties and personal friendships aside for a moment ok?

"Knock offs" are, by definition copies of someone else's design.

They have to be cheaper or who would buy them?

As far as the salt issue.......Russ...do you really think Gary Y. is paying all those manufacturing dollars and royalties to build a product that falls apart quickly but has no inherent benefits?

Is that how he got to be a household name in the fishing industry?

C'mon guys.  Let's get real.

Like I said before.  the knockoffs are definitly cheaper and are fine baits. Use them with confidence.

I certainly do.

But let's not forget that they owe their existance to guys like Gary Y.  the designers at reactions innovations, zoom and other name brand manufacturers who had the creativity, courage, and resources to develop the innovative products the knock off companies so proudly and profitably try to imitate.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

I hear where you're coming from Avid and I give tons of credit to GYCB for MANY innovative products they have brought to our arsenals.  I do however think it is a business decision to use larger salt crystals.  They tear quicker which .....

a. gives the appearance they are even softer than they already are and yes, they are softer than a knock off,IMO but I think the difference is minimal to non factoring (This is a fish that eats many bony, spiny and shelled critters)

b.  Requires often replacement.

I think it is a $$ making decision.  Not judging it, just not supporting it.  This has nothing to do w/ the loyalty to the baits I DO use, it's merely the reason I first sought them out.

[Jeff H]

What are you guys going to argue about when you step inside the pearly gates?  I have this notion that the big tackle shop in the sky is a HUGE place with tons of different baits to pick from but none have any labeling.  What are you gonna do then? ;D

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

Well,...I'm assuming there will be a big 'ol lake there too...... All those new lures,......LOTS to "Discuss"!!

[Maxximus Redneckus]

Well,...I'm assuming there will be a big 'ol lake there too...... All those new lures,......LOTS to "Discuss"!!

Ya magnesium Garcia's that weigh 2 oz and ugly sticks that weigh 1 oz and Hair size braid with 100 lb test strength and is invisible we all have something to look forward to yeeeehawwwwwwww

[burleytog]

Revolutionized Bass fishing?? Holy geez....I wouldn't extend the guy THAT much credit.

Revolutionized it for dinkmasters.  There are many many out there who do nothing but dunk soft stickbaits all day long.

[Maxximus Redneckus]

                 

So true If you cannot affort 6 bucks for a bag of bait. You are in the wrong hobbie

There is a certain amount of arrogance and elitisim to this remark I can afford 3 dollars a bag to fish, why do i need to give up fishing. i work lioke everyone else , I am puttin myself through collegwe, as well as my daughter. Why do i need 6 dollars a bag to blow off steam and enjoying fishing. WHAT A STATEMENT TO MAKE you are dissmissing many working fellas who also fish.

 Yup muddy i can catch bass with 3 dollar baits or 50 cent clearance ones dont matter to me .I use what is workin i dont need baits at 6 bucks a bag to catch fish . NO OFFENSE but if he thinks u can only catch bass with 6 dollar a bag baits i think he is in the wrong hobbie  ;D

[berkley]

i just think there expensive and tear up real easy

and i think strike king zeros are way better for 3 reasons

a.. dont cost near as much

b.. dont tear up and lead you to by more

c.. CATCH FISH

[dodgeguy]

Revolutionized Bass fishing?? Holy geez....I wouldn't extend the guy THAT much credit.

Revolutionized it for dinkmasters. There are many many out there who do nothing but dunk soft stickbaits all day long.

i have caught many 5 lbers on senkos.hey dudes,if you want to cut your senko cost down then wacky rig them with bill m's wacky rig tool.the bait slides up your line on the hookset and you get 5-10 fish per bait.

http://www.wackytool.com/

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

                      As an ole timer i see alot of repeat posts.

But this is one that ticks me off.

Gary Yamamoto created arguabaly the best bass catching lure of all time.

He did the research, he did the r&d, he did the testing the refining and the marketing.  That all cost money guys.

Then all I hear is people whining about his baits don't hold up to more than a few fish.

I wish I could invent something that worked so well the major complaint is that is doesn't last as long as I would like.

Brent and the *** boys, have made a huge following on BassResource.com.  I have used their baits and they are great, but lets not bash the guy who super inpregnated salt into plastic and revolutionized bass fishing.

He's a design and marketing genius and derserves every dime he has.    

So true   If you cannot affort 6 bucks for a bag of bait.    You are in the wrong hobbie

Problem is,....I actually catch.  $6/bag may be fine for you if you fish twice a month and catch 2 fish each time.  We've gone through over 400 sticks so far this yr.  Do the math.  If the baits I use ripped as easily as a GYCB, that number would be even higher.  Now I'm not poor, but I am kind of offended that you think if I can't afford the over-priced baits, I shouldn't be in the game because, quite frankly, I get my confidence from the fish I catch, not the price tag on the bag.

Like it says above, if you only have confidence in the $$$ baits, perhaps YOU are in the wrong hobby.

MOST people get into fishing BECAUSE it is a low cost form of outdoor recreation, I'm sure many of them might find your comment offensive as well.

Let me put it this way, I make enough money to be able to afford to pay $5 for a gallon of gas, but if the $3/gallon get me to the party,....why on Earth would I pay $5??  This is about common sense, not economic stature.

[Guest avid]

I do however think it is a business decision to use larger salt crystals.

My apologies to you Sir Brown.  When you said "salt size"  I misunderstood it to mean the amount of salt that he added to the bait.   I have no opinion on the size of the salt crystals.  I only know that when I lived in NY the bigger the salt crystals the faster the ice on my stoop melted.  

[Guest avid]

What are you guys going to argue about when you step inside the pearly gates?  I have this notion that the big tackle shop in the sky is a HUGE place with tons of different baits to pick from but none have any labeling.  What are you gonna do then? ;D

I dunno but you can bet I'll find that Perry guy from Georgia and get the real skinny on his WR largemouth

OH NO.......DID I REALLY OPEN UP THIS CAN OF WORMS AGAIN