PatrickKnight Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 So my recently purchased Ci4 has a bad grinding sound to it (almost sure its a bad bearing). Lesson learned on buying a display model but do you guys think the Sustain is worth the 70 dollar upgrade? Ball bearing supported spool Carbon drag washers Xprotect Those seem to be the upgrades. I wade fish almost exclusively so the xprotect has my interest peaked. On my FK I am going to upgrade to carbon drag washers and a bearing to support the spool. If I get the Sustain I wouldnt have to do that to the new reel. Quote
wet_dream Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 I have a few Stradic FK’s and they’ve treated me well for my Inshore fishing needs. Sold off my Ci4+ FB’s this offseason, I just preferred the extra heft and solid feel of the FK’s for the type of fishing I do. Picked up a Sustain FI a couple weeks ago, has not seen the water yet though. Striper season just opened in NJ so I’m excited to put some fish on it. Supposedly there is a Stradic SW coming soon, priced between the Ci4 and Sustain. 1 Quote
wet_dream Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 Here’s a pretty informative, but long, video comparing Shimano’s Core Protect (Ci4+) and X-Protect (Sustain). 1 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted March 9, 2018 Super User Posted March 9, 2018 A bearing and new drag washers costs about $10-$15. I really don't think it's worth the extra money, personally. The Stradics hold up pretty well as they are, as long as you're not dunking them in the salt. 1 Quote
PatrickKnight Posted March 9, 2018 Author Posted March 9, 2018 8 hours ago, wet_dream said: Here’s a pretty informative, but long, video comparing Shimano’s Core Protect (Ci4+) and X-Protect (Sustain). I am sure I have watched just about every video he has put out!! Love that channel!! I have given serious thought to just adding another FK to the mix but I do find the MGL rotor turns a bit easier than the FKs rotor does. Thats another thing with the Sustain is aluminum and carbon mix instead of all carbon. 1 Quote
wet_dream Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 5 hours ago, PatrickKnight said: I am sure I have watched just about every video he has put out!! Love that channel!! I have given serious thought to just adding another FK to the mix but I do find the MGL rotor turns a bit easier than the FKs rotor does. Thats another thing with the Sustain is aluminum and carbon mix instead of all carbon. One of the more informative channels I’ve come across. He does great, in-depth reviews. He’s been talking up the Daiwa LT line of spinners. I’m tempted to try one but I think I’ve grown into a Shimano fanboy, at least for spinning reels. 1 Quote
PatrickKnight Posted March 9, 2018 Author Posted March 9, 2018 I have thought about an LT but the Tatula has no seals. Also none of my local shops carry the Ballistic and being unfamiliar with them I am hesitant to buy sight unseen. Plus I am kind of a Shimano fanboy Quote
Big-Bass Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, PatrickKnight said: Plus I am kind of a Shimano fanboy You no longer will be if you try an LT! 1 Quote
PatrickKnight Posted March 9, 2018 Author Posted March 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Big-Bass said: You no longer will be if you try an LT! You are a bad influence 1 Quote
Big-Bass Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 5 hours ago, PatrickKnight said: You are a bad influence Glad to be of help! 1 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted March 10, 2018 Super User Posted March 10, 2018 If you want quality and a sealed main shaft, you can get a Luvias for $199 on the bay...just saying... 1 Quote
PatrickKnight Posted March 10, 2018 Author Posted March 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Tywithay said: If you want quality and a sealed main shaft, you can get a Luvias for $199 on the bay...just saying... Due to a previous experience I dont shop Ebay plus I have $230 in credits at my local shop due to the returned Ci4. I have looked at that reel MANY times. Have you fished one? Quote
Big-Bass Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 I have a Luvias 3012H that I got for that same price last year...it is the nicest spinning reel I own aside from the Sterling Silver Tatula LT and then the Ci4+. The drag is butter smooth and I like the larger spool on the 3012H for less line twist and throwing lighter baits. It's on a 7'6" Cronos M/ML XF. 1 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted March 11, 2018 Super User Posted March 11, 2018 14 hours ago, PatrickKnight said: Due to a previous experience I dont shop Ebay plus I have $230 in credits at my local shop due to the returned Ci4. I have looked at that reel MANY times. Have you fished one? I have the 2500H. I think it's an incredible reel, for that price, and I like it better than my Stradic. Though, I wouldn't pay full retail for one, especially if it didn't have the shallow air spool. 1 Quote
PatrickKnight Posted March 12, 2018 Author Posted March 12, 2018 Checked with my local store today he isn't able to order a Luvias. So I guess I am back to Ci4 vs Sustain. Quote
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