Vexus Boats?

[J Francho]

57 minutes ago, 12poundbass said:

Or by legendary they mean top of the line, top notch craftsmanship at a price the average Joe can afford?

I guarantee you that the launch boats will not be affordable.  That will come later, after making a splash with flagship models.  First aluminum, then glass.

[12poundbass]

16 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I guarantee you that the launch boats will not be affordable.  That will come later, after making a splash with flagship models.  First aluminum, then glass.

I've stated on here before I have no business experience or business sense at all, but wouldn't it make sense to have your launch boat be affordable so you can sell more and get more people talking about your product? Or is this backwards thinking? In my tiny little brain it makes perfect sense, but maybe that's why I'm not a businessman. 

[J Francho]

You're laying the groundwork for perception.  First impression will not be "entry level."  This is supposed to be ground breaking: an aluminum boat with glass bits.  Seriously, look at the link slonezp posted.  Do you think any of those features look affordable?  Not in a million years.

[12poundbass]

1 minute ago, J Francho said:

You're laying the groundwork for perception.  First impression will not be "entry level."  This is supposed to be ground breaking: an aluminum boat with glass bits.  Seriously, look at the link slonezp posted.  Do you think any of those features look affordable?  Not in a million years.

I did look at the link he posted and it doesn't look cheap. Wishful thinking on my behalf I guess. I guess we'll see at some point today I believe.

[12poundbass]

[12poundbass]

Base price is $32k that includes an 80lb Ultrex and I believe it said 150 G2

 

The apricot (their color name) boats we saw in the videos goes for $42k. 

These have a huge transom compartment so there's no issue with Power Poles you can get them rigged from the factory with Power Poles. What I found interesting is the gas tank is at the center of the boat.

Not too shabby. 

[punch]

So what's groundbreaking, revolutionary, and legendary? 

[Catt]

1 hour ago, 12poundbass said:

Base price is $32k that includes an 80lb Ultrex and I believe it said 150 G2

 

The apricot (their color name) boats we saw in the videos goes for $42k. 

These have a huge transom compartment so there's no issue with Power Poles you can get them rigged from the factory with Power Poles. What I found interesting is the gas tank is at the center of the boat.

Not too shabby. 

 

Xpress's X19 Pro /w Yamaha F150LB

$29,995

 

 

[J Francho]

Told you so!

[J Francho]

Similarly outfitted Pro-V Bass comes in at $45.

[12poundbass]

They have an 18' 10" one too with a 115 on the back with a base just under $26k so really that's not outrageously expensive is it?

[J Francho]

Not outrageous, but not Tracker pricing either.  Looks like their target is to stay under Lund by a few thousand.  Not a bad plan.

[JLBBass]

 

Just announced - the Apricot colored boat that we had in the videos is based priced at 31,995.. 
with the G2, the Ultrex Trolling Motor, HDS 9's front and bow, batteries and Victory Package 42K 

 

^^^that's their 19'10", 95" beam model

[slonezp]

6 hours ago, PolarKraft195Pro said:

 

Just announced - the Apricot colored boat that we had in the videos is based priced at 31,995.. 
with the G2, the Ultrex Trolling Motor, HDS 9's front and bow, batteries and Victory Package 42K 

 

^^^that's their 19'10", 95" beam model

The base is about 4k under the Lund 1875 base and higher than everybody else.

 

Also..."What color is your boat?"

         "Apricot!"

         "" 

[Obi_Wan]

I like the looks and features, but seems like its a little high priced for a new boat.  XPress, as mentioned earlier, comes in a little cheaper and its proven.  

[JLBBass]

2 hours ago, slonezp said:

The base is about 4k under the Lund 1875 base and higher than everybody else.

 

Also..."What color is your boat?"

         "Apricot!"

         "" 

“Higher”, unless your a lucky SOB like me!

 

No buyer’s remorse here guys!

 

 

[fishnkamp]

One thing I keep reading that amazes me "see they are expensive " or "not at a Tracker price"  Well order the Tracker with the same engine ( which you can not) and the same 24 volt trolling motor( which you can not) and a power pole( which they say "may void your warranty") and order that Tracker with the same level of electronics( oh I can not)! Instead I have to buy the standard boat and then upgrade to the accessories I wanted to begin with, BUT at my expense!  After you have added the cost of these extra expenses to the original cost of that Tracker then compare the prices. I can order the Vexus without the more expensive G2 engine if I want and save money. I can choose what size jack plate I want, add power poles or Talons without "possibly voiding" my warranty. I can equip the rig with the accessories I want, if that is bigger electronics, or choose whatever trolling motor I want I can do it.

 

So stop with the bull poopy !  The price is not far off an Express if you choose to order it with the same Yamaha motor, electronics, shallow water anchor etc.  Yes! It is less than the Lund I sat in several weekends ago and yes it seems they did a better job on waterproofing the storage compartments. That is one complaint about many of the current competitors.  Let's give the new guy in town a chance to get some owners  and get their feed back. I remember when Phoenix first started making boats. The naysayers were pretty loud back then , even before there was a boat to sit in. It seems to me they did very well in a time when many established boat builders were going under and getting eaten up by one big guy!  I have personally crawled all over a 618 Phoenix. I also test drove it on Dale Hollow. I came away 

highly impressed with the innovations, fit and finish and handling on the rig.  I even got a really good deal on it. Only the uncertainty of my health stopped me from pulling the trigger. I for one will give Vexus a year to establish itself in the market and then go get a ride in one or two.  But let's be fair! Compare equally equipped machines! 

[Cory Doras]

On 3/17/2018 at 1:13 AM, fishnkamp said:

One thing I keep reading that amazes me "see they are expensive " or "not at a Tracker price"  Well order the Tracker with the same engine ( which you can not) and the same 24 volt trolling motor( which you can not) and a power pole( which they say "may void your warranty") and order that Tracker with the same level of electronics( oh I can not)! Instead I have to buy the standard boat and then upgrade to the accessories I wanted to begin with, BUT at my expense!  After you have added the cost of these extra expenses to the original cost of that Tracker then compare the prices. I can order the Vexus without the more expensive G2 engine if I want and save money. I can choose what size jack plate I want, add power poles or Talons without "possibly voiding" my warranty. I can equip the rig with the accessories I want, if that is bigger electronics, or choose whatever trolling motor I want I can do it.

 

So stop with the bull poopy !  The price is not far off an Express if you choose to order it with the same Yamaha motor, electronics, shallow water anchor etc.  Yes! It is less than the Lund I sat in several weekends ago and yes it seems they did a better job on waterproofing the storage compartments. That is one complaint about many of the current competitors.  Let's give the new guy in town a chance to get some owners  and get their feed back. I remember when Phoenix first started making boats. The naysayers were pretty loud back then , even before there was a boat to sit in. It seems to me they did very well in a time when many established boat builders were going under and getting eaten up by one big guy!  I have personally crawled all over a 618 Phoenix. I also test drove it on Dale Hollow. I came away 

highly impressed with the innovations, fit and finish and handling on the rig.  I even got a really good deal on it. Only the uncertainty of my health stopped me from pulling the trigger. I for one will give Vexus a year to establish itself in the market and then go get a ride in one or two.  But let's be fair! Compare equally equipped machines! 

Its hard to compare the Vexus to a Ranger aluminum but I went on the Ranger website and "built" a boat with similar options and its right there if not more than the Vexus. 

[slonezp]

 

On 3/17/2018 at 1:13 AM, fishnkamp said:

One thing I keep reading that amazes me "see they are expensive " or "not at a Tracker price"  Well order the Tracker with the same engine ( which you can not) and the same 24 volt trolling motor( which you can not) and a power pole( which they say "may void your warranty") and order that Tracker with the same level of electronics( oh I can not)! Instead I have to buy the standard boat and then upgrade to the accessories I wanted to begin with, BUT at my expense!  After you have added the cost of these extra expenses to the original cost of that Tracker then compare the prices. I can order the Vexus without the more expensive G2 engine if I want and save money. I can choose what size jack plate I want, add power poles or Talons without "possibly voiding" my warranty. I can equip the rig with the accessories I want, if that is bigger electronics, or choose whatever trolling motor I want I can do it.

 

So stop with the bull poopy!  The price is not far off an Express if you choose to order it with the same Yamaha motor, electronics, shallow water anchor etc.  Yes! It is less than the Lund I sat in several weekends ago and yes it seems they did a better job on waterproofing the storage compartments. That is one complaint about many of the current competitors.  Let's give the new guy in town a chance to get some owners  and get their feed back. I remember when Phoenix first started making boats. The naysayers were pretty loud back then , even before there was a boat to sit in. It seems to me they did very well in a time when many established boat builders were going under and getting eaten up by one big guy!  I have personally crawled all over a 618 Phoenix. I also test drove it on Dale Hollow. I came away 

highly impressed with the innovations, fit and finish and handling on the rig.  I even got a really good deal on it. Only the uncertainty of my health stopped me from pulling the trigger. I for one will give Vexus a year to establish itself in the market and then go get a ride in one or two.  But let's be fair! Compare equally equipped machines! 

Fact is all of the "Legendary " is still unproven in the real world. I hope its a successful brand. If all the claims are true, it will force the competition to step up their games and get away from the cookie cutter boats they are putting out.

[Glenn]

To be clear, the term "legendary" as it applies to these boats, is referring to the owners/employees of the company, and their proven backgrounds.  They've been in the industry for decades, and have earned the title.

[JLBBass]

9 hours ago, fishnkamp said:

One thing I keep reading that amazes me "see they are expensive " or "not at a Tracker price"  Well order the Tracker with the same engine ( which you can not) and the same 24 volt trolling motor( which you can not) and a power pole( which they say "may void your warranty") and order that Tracker with the same level of electronics( oh I can not)! Instead I have to buy the standard boat and then upgrade to the accessories I wanted to begin with, BUT at my expense!  After you have added the cost of these extra expenses to the original cost of that Tracker then compare the prices. I can order the Vexus without the more expensive G2 engine if I want and save money. I can choose what size jack plate I want, add power poles or Talons without "possibly voiding" my warranty. I can equip the rig with the accessories I want, if that is bigger electronics, or choose whatever trolling motor I want I can do it.

 

 

^^^I agree^^^...............UNLESS! You get lucky like I did! and this is no bull!!!

 

No buyer’s remorse here!

shopped Ranger RT188/198, Triton X18, Lund Renegade 1875, and Crestliner VT &PT 18's, and boy am I glad I had patience!

New leftover 2017 Polar Kraft TX195 Pro (19’5”, 96” beam)
Suzuki 140 four stroke (with 6 year warranty!)
Suzuki SS prop
Color matched trailer with chrome wheels
spare tire & wheel
swing away tounge
4 batteries (2 hooked parallel for outboard & electronics, 2 for TM)
Minn Kota onboard charger 
Minn Kota Fortrex 80 lb, 52” (probably should have went Ultrex, and still will at end of season)
Lowrance Hook 4 in dash (use for running)
Humminbird Helix 9 GPS SI Mega on dash
Humminbird Helix 7 GPS DI Chirp on bow

After a few upgrades mentioned above, I have $24,200 (after selling Edge TM that came on it ) and that’s including the $250 in gas spent driving.
got lucky and found dealer who needed it sold!

 

and this boat will go head to head with any I mentioned above, for sure!!!

THAT’S why I decided to drive 1600 miles round trip to get it last month!!! 
Boat loaded with that stuff is well over $32,000 ANYWHERE ya shop!
got lucky for sure!

Sometimes you don’t have to pay $32,000+ for a $32,000+ boat

6 minutes ago, PolarKraft195Pro said:

 

 

[Obi_Wan]

On 3/17/2018 at 1:13 AM, fishnkamp said:

One thing I keep reading that amazes me "see they are expensive " or "not at a Tracker price"  Well order the Tracker with the same engine ( which you can not) and the same 24 volt trolling motor( which you can not) and a power pole( which they say "may void your warranty") and order that Tracker with the same level of electronics( oh I can not)! Instead I have to buy the standard boat and then upgrade to the accessories I wanted to begin with, BUT at my expense!  After you have added the cost of these extra expenses to the original cost of that Tracker then compare the prices. I can order the Vexus without the more expensive G2 engine if I want and save money. I can choose what size jack plate I want, add power poles or Talons without "possibly voiding" my warranty. I can equip the rig with the accessories I want, if that is bigger electronics, or choose whatever trolling motor I want I can do it.

 

So stop with the bull poopy!  The price is not far off an Express if you choose to order it with the same Yamaha motor, electronics, shallow water anchor etc.  Yes! It is less than the Lund I sat in several weekends ago and yes it seems they did a better job on waterproofing the storage compartments. That is one complaint about many of the current competitors.  Let's give the new guy in town a chance to get some owners  and get their feed back. I remember when Phoenix first started making boats. The naysayers were pretty loud back then , even before there was a boat to sit in. It seems to me they did very well in a time when many established boat builders were going under and getting eaten up by one big guy!  I have personally crawled all over a 618 Phoenix. I also test drove it on Dale Hollow. I came away 

highly impressed with the innovations, fit and finish and handling on the rig.  I even got a really good deal on it. Only the uncertainty of my health stopped me from pulling the trigger. I for one will give Vexus a year to establish itself in the market and then go get a ride in one or two.  But let's be fair! Compare equally equipped machines! 

Good points all.  Especially about giving Vexus time.  I still think its a little high for a new to the market boat and I wouldn't put my money into an unproven/untested* boat yet.  After a year or two, then all bets are off.

 

*Unprove/untested - Need to get some firsthand reviews of people actually using the boat.  You'll find warts as well as beauty this way.  

[12poundbass]

46 minutes ago, Obi_Wan said:

Good points all.  Especially about giving Vexus time.  I still think its a little high for a new to the market boat and I wouldn't put my money into an unproven/untested* boat yet.  After a year or two, then all bets are off.

 

*Unprove/untested - Need to get some firsthand reviews of people actually using the boat.  You'll find warts as well as beauty this way.  

With the pedigree of all involved at Vexus I'm not so sure there's anything to prove or really test. 

[Obi_Wan]

24 minutes ago, 12poundbass said:

With the pedigree of all involved at Vexus I'm not so sure there's anything to prove or really test. 

I'm not against Vexus.  I like the looks of the boat and I hope they do well.  I understand their pedigree, but the idea of a part aluminum boat, part fiberglass boat has been tried before and it failed.  Hull design is new and different.  It may scream on smooth water, but how does it handle the chop?  There may not be "lots" to test, but there is somethings about these boats that are yet unproven.  Time will tell.

[Further North]

Looks interesting...colors are a little weird...but that's OK.

 

One thing I see that I have a question about: It looks like the gunnels dip a bit as they head towards the bow...Am I seeing that accurately?

 

I had a Crestliner like that and it was an absolute PITA to mount a Terrova up there.  The motor shaft was tilted back towards the hull and to prop was pulling down at a slight angle...did not work well at all.

 

Wound up having a wedge shapped spacer made to level out the base of the trolling motor.