Super User scaleface Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 You are on the water ready to fish either from boat or bank . Before you make your first cast what all are you taking into consideration ? Quote
drscholl14 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Time of year, weather, water temp, windy or calm? If windy which part of the lake is the wind blowing into, where were the fish last time I was in these weather conditions. Cloudy or sunny? Clear or stained water? The list goes on and on......  Would probably be a better fisherman if I could shut that off once in awhile. 3 Quote
Troy85 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, drscholl14 said: Time of year, weather, water temp, windy or calm? If windy which part of the lake is the wind blowing into, where were the fish last time I was in these weather conditions. Cloudy or sunny? Clear or stained water? The list goes on and on......  Would probably be a better fisherman if I could shut that off once in awhile. I'm with ya here. Sometimes I think I over complicate it.  Quote
Fish the Mitt Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 39 minutes ago, drscholl14 said: Time of year, weather, water temp, windy or calm? If windy which part of the lake is the wind blowing into, where were the fish last time I was in these weather conditions. Cloudy or sunny? Clear or stained water? The list goes on and on......  Would probably be a better fisherman if I could shut that off once in awhile. A lot of this I do before ever leaving the house in order to maximize my already limited time on the water.  Before I leave: - Time of year - Weather (encompasses everything from sun vs clouds, wind speed, wind direction, barometer, incoming/outgoing fronts, etc..) - Understand which species I'm targeting (or if both, plan for both) - Successful spots in previous endeavors - Typical bass patterns for the season - Study topo (Navionics) to choose high probability spots  Before I cast: - Water clarity (and how the wind/direction impacted this) - Current (since I fish a lot of impoundments) - Water temp - Water level - Whether or not the spots I picked from home would hold up based on what I see on the water - Then adjust as needed  Very rarely do I just go out and fish without doing any of the above. I tend to plan my outings in advance, and rarely do I just wing it. Unless all else fails on the water, then it's a free-for-all.  I wouldn't say it overcomplicates things as I actually enjoy this part of fishing. The challenge in trying to figure it out, if you will. 2 Quote
68camaro Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Much more than I ever thought, this winter I really started reading and studying bass fishing (only got yak last summer), I started to make a list of variables I wanted to incorporate into my pre-fishing and on on-water routine. The following is not comprehensive as I have not updated with notes I have scattered around but here goes.....  Weather 2-3 days before Countdown casts Wind direction Shade (fish shady side) Sunny or overcast/clouds Raining Prefrontal or post frontal Cold or warm front Water temp Water - calm/rough Water depth Structure Weedlines are structure Inside and outside weed edges Best structure is isolated structure Look for irregularities Ambush points Casting - line up boat correctly Count down every sinking lure/bait to get to right depth to fish Heavy line sinks slower than light line If get hit worm, throw crank to see if still there Time of day Picture 8lb bass where you want him Find access points to deep water  Throw 6’ past target or ambush point, not on it Migration paths  Again there is a lot more I am adding......Also, I have lists for Techniques w/ specifics, Winter, Prespawn, Spawn, Summer, list for different baits...i.e., Jerk, crank, worm, jig etc.  There is so much minutia in fishing that depending what I plan on doing I can go to that specific list and it helps me remember the little thinks and little tricks I may not always remember.  Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, drscholl14 said: Time of year, weather, water temp, windy or calm? If windy which part of the lake is the wind blowing into, where were the fish last time I was in these weather conditions. Cloudy or sunny? Clear or stained water? The list goes on and on......  Would probably be a better fisherman if I could shut that off once in awhile. You want to get to a point where you can incorporate all these things in a subconscious or instinctive fashion. Think of it like dancing, You don't want to be looking at your feet counting 1, 2, 3, cha cha cha, you want to move gracefully and seemingly effortlessly in perfect time to the music. Of course it requires having put in your time and effort, and having counted and stared at your feet. 2 Quote
mattkenzer Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Distance from Boat Deck to the Trees ..... 5 5 Quote
RPreeb Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, mattkenzer said: Distance from Boat Deck to the Trees ..... This is more my style. I'm more the "What a great day... I'm out on the water paddling - got a couple of rods set up - I'm at peace with the world - I might even catch some fish out here somewhere. Life is good. 5 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 I think about my leader - is it nicked? Run fingers over each setup. Retie if needed. I do not change leaders every time I go out as it is not needed.... Â Usually will do this the night prior to going out, but I still double check when on the water. Â Then I think about where I wanna start fishing. Quote
riverbasser Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Pay attention fellas he said "your on the water about to make your first cast" all that planning and crap was done before this moment.  Normally for me since I try to always fish at daylight its along the lines of "I hope they"ll eat this buzzbait this morning"  Or  "What piece of cover or structure am I trying to hit"  And sometimes  "Scale face needs to get out my hole" lol 3 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 2 hours ago, scaleface said: You are on the water ready to fish either from boat or bank . Before you make your first cast what all are you taking into consideration ? What I might have forgotten to bring along because I got the cart a mile before the horse.  But really, Water temp. Seasonal patterns that might work and what baits to use for them. And where I might go to do the best with those two factors in mind.  Quote
jbmaine Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, RPreeb said: This is more my style. I'm more the "What a great day... I'm out on the water paddling - got a couple of rods set up - I'm at peace with the world - I might even catch some fish out here somewhere. Life is good. me too. I do all the prep, but once I am on the water I take in the peace and quiet, kick back and enjoy the day. We have never had a bad day on the water. Rain or shine, catching fish or not. 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 Check my drag. Check water clarity to determine bait color. Check water temp via depth finder.  1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 Before you make your first cast what all are you taking into consideration ? Â Bait size & type, wind direction, drag and perhaps most importantly, proper spool tension. Â A-Jay 3 1 5 1 Quote
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 The answer varies quite a bit, actually. If I am going to a lake I am familiar with and conditions seem "ideal", I'll head out with a very specific tactics in mind. I'm not going to lie. I fish from memory-if it works. It's when it doesn't work that I reevaluate things. If I am going to a new lake or a familiar lake under "unusual" or difficult conditions, I am much more likely to think long and hard about how to proceed.  Two conditions tend to vie for center attraction and they are Time of Year and Weather Conditions. These two (together and separately) will USUALLY determine the location of the fish and the mood they will be in. Thus, I usually have these things in mind when I'm heading out. After that, it's a matter of studying maps, watching the fish finder, and, of course, visually looking for structure and/or cover that fits the criteria I believe the fish "want."  Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 All of the above, but far and above anything else: Wind. Starts days before I fish, but most of my fishing is from a kayak and force and direction of wind dominates my thoughts.  Even if in a boat, current, recent past and future (through the day) winds are primary consideration. If on tidal water, next high and low tides are second. Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 53 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Before you make your first cast what all are you taking into consideration ?  Bait size & type, wind direction, drag and perhaps most importantly, proper spool tension.  A-Jay  My first thought when I read the title, hope I don't backlash!   1 1 Quote
Super User senile1 Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 Check surface water temperature via depth finder Check water clarity (though I usually know what to expect in this regard based on weather review beforehand) Check wind direction and magnitude Check activity on the water (shad schools, birds) Scan every location chosen with depth finder and eyes (to setup casts, look for bait balls, and possibly find fish)  1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 I make a short cast to get my line wet so I don't backlash and check the drag setting. Blew up a few dry line reels before getting into my habit of short cast first. Rarely blindly start fishing and usually go through my launch routine checking water temps and looking for bait and bass visually and sonar unit in the marina to determine where and what depth to start. Weather and seasonal periods are obvious, the water temps confirms it when transitional. Tom 4 Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 Pretty much the same stuff all year:  -Heat -Weather/Water Conditions -Prey whereabouts -Vegetation conditions -Circumstances, miscellaneous.  One thing I almost always do, esp under transition periods, is do a lake, pond tour. I'm looking at the above list of parameters. This informs my tackle, techniques, and strategy(ies). Quote
Vinjints Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 I'm ready to fish? Then I put all my gear down and start tying on hooks and weights and bobbers and worms for the little ones. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 6, 2018 Global Moderator Posted March 6, 2018 Man O Man can't really add much more than what was already written.  Before the first cast I always make sure I have a fresh knot, plastic is straight and have a good idea where I want to start and end up.     Mike Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 6, 2018 Author Super User Posted March 6, 2018 52 minutes ago, WRB said:  and looking for bait and bass visually and sonar unit in the marina to determine where and what depth to start. This is something I learned from you and probably the biggest thing I have learned on this forum . Look for a zone that the baitfish and game fish are in . Several times last year I started out fishing the correct depth because that is where the "life zone" seemed to be . Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted March 6, 2018 Super User Posted March 6, 2018 I have never stopped to list them all because as I have said, for me when I get to the ramp in the morning and the boat is tied off to the dock, I am putting "the puzzle" together in my head because every day it's like dumping a 500 piece puzzle out on the deck. The more of that puzzle you can figure out the better day you will have. The last piece of my puzzle is to always follow my gut. It's usually right.  Quote
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