Need opinions

[jasondaily]

Hello everyone, I'm looking to get two rods and reels. One for worm/jigs fishing and another rod for an all purpose (swimbaits, crankbaits etc.) I have a few in mind. 

 

Black fate  7"1 med hvy

 

Lews tp1 7" med hvy

 

Lews Mach speed med hvy-

 

Lews Mach crush 

 

Dobins fury 7" med hvy

 

For worms and jigs should I choose the one that is rated for the lightest weight to help casting distance? Thanks 

[TylerT123]

Which Dobyns Fury Model are you looking at?

[jasondaily]

7'3" fury casting rod

[jasondaily]

My biggest question is does the suggested lure weight effect casting if the lure is under that suggest weight? 

[NYWayfarer]

If you are fishing from a kayak, my choice would be the Black, Fate.

 

That neon green color can be seen from miles away. No chance a boater will not see you on the water with one of those in your hand or rod holder.

[fishnkamp]

For your bottom contact baits, as well as spinnerbaits, small swimbaits and things like a buzzbait you will find the FR734C your most versatile rod. The 733 will be too light for general purpose bottom contact fishing (jigs worms etc.) That is better for say fishing less bulky baits in more open water situations.

Dobyns runs a little lighter than they spec as far as medium, medium heavy. They are correct in their lure ratings.

 

For crankbaits, rattle traps and topwaters look at a FR705C. That rod works great for those baits.

[new2BC4bass]

1 hour ago, jasondaily said:

My biggest question is does the suggested lure weight effect casting if the lure is under that suggest weight? 

Short answer...yes.  Long answer...obviously lighter baits won't cast as far as a heavier weight.  Not all rods will handle listed weights.  Some will handle lighter, or heavier, or both.  Only way to know is to try.  One of my rods is listed as 3/8 oz. on the low end, but the rod will barely cast a 1/2 oz. spinnerbait a decent fishing distance.  I tried a lure 1/4 oz. over its high rating, and felt I could only lob the lure as I felt it overloaded the rod.  Another rod is listed as 1/8 oz. on the low end, but the seller told me he could cast 1/16 oz. with it.  (I can't due do my not so stellar casting abilities.)

[jasondaily]

25 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said:

Short answer...yes.  Long answer...obviously lighter baits won't cast as far as a heavier weight.  Not all rods will handle listed weights.  Some will handle lighter, or heavier, or both.  Only way to know is to try.  One of my rods is listed as 3/8 oz. on the low end, but the rod will barely cast a 1/2 oz. spinnerbait a decent fishing distance.  I tried a lure 1/4 oz. over its high rating, and felt I could only lob the lure as I felt it overloaded the rod.  Another rod is listed as 1/8 oz. on the low end, but the seller told me he could cast 1/16 oz. with it.  (I can't due do my not so stellar casting abilities.)

Thanks for the info, the rods I'm looking at are "all well rounded" occorsing to reviews and such. I'm really leaning towards 13 fishings fate bc it won't rod of the year but the weights are 3/8-3/4 which isn't a very big range and I plan on using it for Texas rigs and jigs. 

[new2BC4bass]

It is possible by the time you add everything up your rigs will weigh the minimum or more.  I have zero experience with that rod.  My older Hurricane Redbone 7' ML (casting) has the same rating.  These are saltwater rods.  It will throw a 3/8 oz. popper the proverbial country mile so I feel certain it will do 1/4 oz. at the very least.

 

Only way to know for sure what that rod will do is to try.  Good luck.

[RyneB]

Not sure what your budget is. But the ALX Zolo deputy is the best multi purpose rod I've ever fished with. I bought it for jigs, and I find myself using it for everything from jerkbaits, small swimbaits, spinnerbaits, tubes, jigs, Texas rigs. It does it all, and does it real well.

[jasondaily]

22 hours ago, RyneB said:

Not sure what your budget is. But the ALX Zolo deputy is the best multi purpose rod I've ever fished with. I bought it for jigs, and I find myself using it for everything from jerkbaits, small swimbaits, spinnerbaits, tubes, jigs, Texas rigs. It does it all, and does it real well.

Thanks for the suggestion. The zolo rods  are a little too pricy for me. I'm just a casual weekend fisherman. 

[Riazuli]

If you're getting two rods, you could consider getting a medium and a medium heavy to broaden your range of utility.  Ideally, the medium you are getting will have a lower lure rating on the bottom end so you won't have as much concern for lighter weights. 

[PatrickKnight]

If you want to get two rods and stay around 100 bucks per go with a Dobyns Fury 733 and 734.

[jasondaily]

11 hours ago, Riazuli said:

If you're getting two rods, you could consider getting a medium and a medium heavy to broaden your range of utility.  Ideally, the medium you are getting will have a lower lure rating on the bottom end so you won't have as much concern for lighter weights. 

Thanks, I haven't thought about that.  

10 hours ago, PatrickKnight said:

If you want to get two rods and stay around 100 bucks per go with a Dobyns Fury 733 and 734.

Why the Dobyns over the others? Just curious. 

[new2BC4bass]

On 3/2/2018 at 6:22 AM, RyneB said:

Not sure what your budget is. But the ALX Zolo deputy is the best multi purpose rod I've ever fished with. I bought it for jigs, and I find myself using it for everything from jerkbaits, small swimbaits, spinnerbaits, tubes, jigs, Texas rigs. It does it all, and does it real well.

Nice to know.  Haven't used mine yet.  Bought it hoping for an all around rod that was also very sensitive.

[RyneB]

I'm a Loomis guy. Love my IMX rods. Then I got my Deputy. Going to be selling off all my IMXs at the end of the season and switching to ALX. Today I used my Deputy for a jerkbait, light swimbait on a underspin, a shakey head, jig, and T Rig. I have specific rods for all of those techniques, but it was the Deputy I didn't want to put down.

[PatrickKnight]

13 hours ago, jasondaily said:

Thanks, I haven't thought about that.  

Why the Dobyns over the others? Just curious. 

I prefer Dobyns as a company over the others listed. Made in America by people you can actually pick up the phone and talk to. Customer service is on par with St. Croix which is no easy tasks to accomplish. The Fury line is the most sensitive $100 dollar rod I have fished.

[jasondaily]

Thanks 

[RyneB]

10 hours ago, PatrickKnight said:

I prefer Dobyns as a company over the others listed. Made in America by people you can actually pick up the phone and talk to. Customer service is on par with St. Croix which is no easy tasks to accomplish. The Fury line is the most sensitive $100 dollar rod I have fished.

Not to burst your bubble, but Dobyns are made in Korea. Some parts may be assembled in the USA, but blanks are Korean made.

[jasondaily]

How can you tell if a medium rod is as stout as a medium heavy?  It so much in this forum but others I ha e read said that their mediums depending on the brand acts like their medium heavy from another brand? Short answer is using it. 

[PatrickKnight]

14 hours ago, RyneB said:

Not to burst your bubble, but Dobyns are made in Korea. Some parts may be assembled in the USA, but blanks are Korean made.

I cant think of a single rod completely made in the states but yes you are right. American assembled with international parts.

 

When it comes to which rods fish heavier than average for the ratings the St croix and Abu I have fished tend to fish slightly heavier.

[Bassin_Harrison]

On 3/2/2018 at 7:22 AM, RyneB said:

Not sure what your budget is. But the ALX Zolo deputy is the best multi purpose rod I've ever fished with. I bought it for jigs, and I find myself using it for everything from jerkbaits, small swimbaits, spinnerbaits, tubes, jigs, Texas rigs. It does it all, and does it real well.

Awesome cause I'm planning on getting one for pretty much all of those things, aside from tubes probably. But I might get more into Tubes as I'm going to be fishing for Smallmouth a decent amount this year. 

[new2BC4bass]

On ‎3‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 6:01 AM, jasondaily said:

Thanks for the suggestion. The zolo rods  are a little too pricy for me. I'm just a casual weekend fisherman. 

 

But you would be one happy weekend fisherman.    I enjoy fishing whether with a $50 rod or a $250 rod, but knowing I am using quality gear does add to my pleasure.  However, I would be the last one to tell you to spend more than your budget.

 

Everyone says the Dobyns Fury rods are fantastic for the money.  Not used one yet.  I do like my Fenwick HMG rods at the $100 price point.  Would love to try a Fury.

 

Jet has the Tatula 7'1" MH-XF for $92.77 with free shipping.  This would make a great worm/jig rod.  I have 5 of the original Tatula rods and feel they are worth more than the $149 MSRP.  Personally the Tatula would always be my first choice if I can get them around the $100-$110 price.  They do seem to run a bit heavier than their rating.  Look at the lure weights for what you want.  Love my 7' MLR.  It actually falls in the range for what I consider to be a Medium power.