Braid With Flouro Leader on Dropshot?

[MichaelJ7]

Does anyone do this? If so, how long is your leader? I was thinking 10# braid to 8# flouro. 

[WRB]

The primary reason bass anglers use braid with fluorocarbon leader is line twist managements using spinning reels. Every spin of the spinning reel rotar puts a twist in the line unless the end of the line can rotate to prevent twisting regardless of how it's rigged.

The down side is 2 knots and FC knot strength. Using a spinning reel with a good drag and setting the drag about 1/3 the the leader strength.

You will get lots of knot advice and need to learn how to tie good knots.

Tom

[SJex]

I do for the reasons Tom listed, line twist prevention. I run a 5' - 7' fluorocarbon leader (with a 7' rod).

[OkobojiEagle]

yes... 8' - 10'

 

oe

[Fishin' Fool]

Yes 8 days a week I would consider upping your braid to 15 or 16 pound (if you choose sx1). I tried the 12 pound sx1 and with the light line you have more issues that your cutting line off. For me 16 pound Sunline sx1 matched to 7 pound sniper fluorocarbon is perfect  I like an 18" leader on drop shot and about 7 to 8' on spool.

[Darren.]

I will do two arm length stretches (both arms extended)

sometimes, most times one stretch and maybe a few more

inches then cut. 

 

Will vary, obviously, based on arm length.

 

And 10# braid is fine. I used it exclusively until I got a great

deal on a 1000 yard spool of 15# Power Pro Super Slick 8.

[MichaelJ7]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

The primary reason bass anglers use braid with fluorocarbon leader is line twist managements using spinning reels. Every spin of the spinning reel rotar puts a twist in the line unless the end of the line can rotate to prevent twisting regardless of how it's rigged.

The down side is 2 knots and FC knot strength. Using a spinning reel with a good drag and setting the drag about 1/3 the the leader strength.

You will get lots of knot advice and need to learn how to tie good knots.

Tom

My knots are not an issue. I use the FG knot to connect all my leaders. 

[Czorn]

I use about 12 feet of F/c on my braid. Unless I'm fishing around suspended bass. It that case I may go up to 20-30. If a fish is fallowing my bait down, I don't want braid to suddenly appear in front of it.

[Columbia Craw]

Yes, 8'

[Further North]

11 hours ago, MichaelJ7 said:

I was thinking 10# braid to 8# flouro. 

Do yourself a favor, use 30# braid.

• Easier to tie knots.
• Is closer to the fluoro diameter; makes better knots.
• Doesn't carve up your fingers tying in leaders.  Snugging down an Alberto or FG knot with 10# braid will cut your fingers, sooner or later.  Not an "If", it's a "When".
• Takes way less to fill up a spool (inches = $$$). 150 yards of 10# costs the same as 150 yards of 30#...or so close it doesn't matter...
• Line diameter above your leader means just about nothing...so go with all of the above.

 

 

[Angry John]

2 minutes ago, Further North said:

Do yourself a favor, use 30# braid.

• Easier to tie knots.
• Is closer to the fluoro diameter; makes better knots.
• Doesn't carve up your fingers tying in leaders.  Snugging down an Alberto or FG knot with 10# braid will cut your fingers, sooner or later.  Not an "If", it's a "When".
• Takes way less to fill up a spool (inches = $$$). 150 yards of 10# costs the same as 150 yards of 30#...or so close it doesn't matter...
• Line diameter above your leader means just about nothing...so go with all of the above.

 

 

I was very worried about this and with 4 carrier it is no doubt true.  I have gone threw a few sizes of 832 and on that line I like 15.  It has yet to cut me but pp in the same size has got me good.  I don't know if it's a line by line thing or 8 vs 4 carrier.  

[Further North]

9 hours ago, Czorn said:

I use about 12 feet of F/c on my braid. Unless I'm fishing around suspended bass. It that case I may go up to 20-30. If a fish is fallowing my bait down, I don't want braid to suddenly appear in front of it.

Dumb question:  if a fish is following a bait down, does it ever get more than 12' behind?  ...and if it does...is adding another 8' - 18" feet ever make a difference?

 

We fish vastly different water, so I'm not 2nd guessing you...am genuinely curious.

1 minute ago, Angry John said:

I was very worried about this and with 4 carrier it is no doubt true.  I have gone threw a few sizes of 832 and on that line I like 15.  It has yet to cut me but pp in the same size has got me good.  I don't know if it's a line by line thing or 8 vs 4 carrier.  

Even 15# PowerPro will cut me, 10# is a sure thing.  Up here in the northwoods, relatively low pressure, I see zero difference between 10# and 30#...above the leader...I do not believe fish ar looking 7 ft. above the bait that's gettign their attention...

 

I'm open minded enough to consider that it might make a difference elsewhere in the country...but I'd need to see it to believe it.

[Czorn]

1 hour ago, Further North said:

Dumb question:  if a fish is following a bait down, does it ever get more than 12' behind?  ...and if it does...is adding another 8' - 18" feet ever make a difference?

 

We fish vastly different water, so I'm not 2nd guessing you...am genuinely curious.

Even 15# PowerPro will cut me, 10# is a sure thing.  Up here in the northwoods, relatively low pressure, I see zero difference between 10# and 30#...above the leader...I do not believe fish ar looking 7 ft. above the bait that's gettign their attention...

 

I'm open minded enough to consider that it might make a difference elsewhere in the country...but I'd need to see it to believe it.

In cold water it does happen. If I'm fishing 40' of water and a fish is suspended at 8' and I have a 3/8 oz dropshot weight, the fish would have to move quickly to keep up with the bait. In Texas our fish move slow in the winter. Watch underwater vids of bass. They don't move as fast as you would think. 

[FishDewd]

I'm gonna be a bit different... I normally am anyway, so what the heck? What works for me is roughly a 12" flouro leader tied to the braid with a simple alberto knot. This way I don't need to spool an FC knot which I cannot tie. I run that to a spinshot hook (it has a built in swivel to keep it true) and attach it with either a doubled san diego jam knot or a wetted palomar knot. The other eyelet gets about 6" worth of 6-10 lb fluoro dropshot line. Ican attach that the same way as the first. I then make a little figure-8 knot (otherwise called a "lefty kreh knot") at the end of the line and use that as a stopper for the dropshot weight. This way if I encounter a snag I can tug the line and break the weight line without losing all of it. Works great for me. Why complicate what works great?

[ww2farmer]

For light line drop shotting on spinning gear, I have been using 5'-6' 8lb flouro leaders (usually Seaguar Red label) tied to 10lb braid main line (original Power Pro) with the alberto knot, for at least 10 years. I can NOT think of one time I have ever had an issue with this system. Works for me. 1000's of bass caught, multiple tournament wins/money finishes, I'm not going to over think it and change what works.

[Crestliner2008]

I dislike PP mainly because the 'sound' it makes bringing in fish. Very annoying, to me anyway. I've switched my main line to Fireline Crystal in 6# test with a 4 or 5' section of fluorocarbon for the business end of the same rating size. No problems....no worries.

[Further North]

17 hours ago, Czorn said:

In cold water it does happen. If I'm fishing 40' of water and a fish is suspended at 8' and I have a 3/8 oz dropshot weight, the fish would have to move quickly to keep up with the bait. In Texas our fish move slow in the winter. Watch underwater vids of bass. They don't move as fast as you would think. 

Casey, thanks.  I love learning stuff like that.

[J Francho]

I like that setup when fishing in moderate weeds.  Here's more detail, in the article.  Substitute light wire weedless offset worm hook for an open hook, if needed.

 

https://www.bassresource.com/fishing/dropshot-bedding-bass.html