Todd2 Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 What weight jig are you throwing on light tackle the MOST.. Neds, Sliders, Shaky Heads, Grub heads, etc. 1/16, 1/8, 3/16, or 1/4? Just curious..... Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 16, 2018 Global Moderator Posted February 16, 2018 Ned-1/16 Slider-1/8 Shaky-1/8 Grub-1/8 Also fish an ultra finesse skirted jig that I make that is 1/8 that is a killer in the spring when all the little craws are everywhere. 7 Quote
Todd2 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Bluebasser86 said: Ned-1/16 Slider-1/8 Shaky-1/8 Grub-1/8 Also fish an ultra finesse skirted jig that I make that is 1/8 that is a killer in the spring when all the little craws are everywhere. Why the weight cut on the Ned? Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted February 16, 2018 Super User Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Bluebasser86 said: Ned-1/16 Slider-1/8 Shaky-1/8 Grub-1/8 Also fish an ultra finesse skirted jig that I make that is 1/8 that is a killer in the spring when all the little craws are everywhere. Ditto this ^^ Lighter weight for Ned because it's fished as a "no-feel" presentation. 4 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 16, 2018 Global Moderator Posted February 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, Todd2 said: Why the weight cut on the Ned? 11 minutes ago, Team9nine said: Lighter weight for Ned because it's fished as a "no-feel" presentation. I actually need to get some lighter Ned heads for those rare days when there's little wind. I'm a firm believer that the lighter the weight I can get a away with, the better my catch will be in almost all situations. 2 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted February 16, 2018 Super User Posted February 16, 2018 Ned-1/16-1/20 Slider-1/16-1/8 Shaky-1/4 I like my Neds light and my Shakys heavy. Sliders I go both ways on, it depends on what plastic I am using and if there is current or not. 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted February 16, 2018 Super User Posted February 16, 2018 Ned-1/16 Slider-1/8 Shaky-1/8 -1/4 Grub-1/8 Finesse jig 5/16 Allen Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 16, 2018 Super User Posted February 16, 2018 Here we go again...what is a bass finesse jig? Lets use Tackle Warehouse discription or Siebert Outdoors, it's a jig style not a light weight jig. Finesse jigs range from 3/16 oz to 1/2 oz. The 1st finesse jig I recall being named that was Skinny Bears living rubber jig back in the 80's. It's how and where you present a smaller size compact jig using lighter strength line that makes it a finesse presentation for LMB, the smallmouth bass anglers have been using "finesse jig" with Billy Westmooreland the name that comes to mind. Tom 3 Quote
Vinjints Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, WRB said: Here we go again...what is a bass finesse jig? Lets use Tackle Warehouse discription, it's a jig style not a light weight jig. Finesse jigs range from 3/16 oz to 1/2 oz. Tom we don't have to "here we go again." he actually specifies what he's looking for in the original post. 3 Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 16, 2018 Super User Posted February 16, 2018 If you continue to redefine terminology the ability to communicate dissapears. Not 1 of those jigs the OP is inquiring about are finesse jigs, they are individual light weight style jigs. Tom 1 Quote
Todd2 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, WRB said: If you continue to redefine terminology the ability to communicate dissapears. Not 1 of those jigs the OP is inquiring about are finesse jigs, they are individual light weight style jigs. Tom Geez Tom...I think it was very clear what I was asking. Why get hung up on the semantics? Quote
Super User senile1 Posted February 16, 2018 Super User Posted February 16, 2018 For a finesse jig, I use 3/16 oz. For all of the other finesse presentations mentioned, I use almost the same as BlueBasser's response except for a slight difference on the Ned as I use the 1/15 oz offered by Zman. Ned-1/15 Slider-1/8 Shaky-1/8 Grub-1/8 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 16, 2018 Super User Posted February 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, Todd2 said: Geez Tom...I think it was very clear what I was asking. Why get hung up on the semantics? Finesse jig weight is the title term, not a semantic. When we constantly change fishing terminology and it creates a failure to communicate. Peace, Tom 2 Quote
Todd2 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 29 minutes ago, WRB said: Finesse jig weight is the title term, not a semantic. When we constantly change fishing terminology and it creates a failure to communicate. Peace, Tom You better tell BPS, searching 'Finesse Jigs' will yield you over 80 jigs..including at least some of the ones I mentioned. Quote
IndianaFinesse Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 12 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: Ned-1/16 Slider-1/8 Shaky-1/8 Grub-1/8 Also fish an ultra finesse skirted jig that I make that is 1/8 that is a killer in the spring when all the little craws are everywhere. This... 1 Quote
68camaro Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Ned 1/15 smallest to 1/5 finesse jig 7/64 (3g) Shaky 1/8 or 1/5 Grub - don't use em 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 17, 2018 Super User Posted February 17, 2018 Siebert Outdoors, our site sponsor, and Tackle Warehouse have a separate "finesse jig" category and far more creditable then BPS. Any light weight jig under 3/8 oz falls into your finesse category. Several finesse presentation type jigs are missing such as round heads in the wacky jig style and the darter heads commonly fished with light line spinning tackle. The Indiana finesse guys keep trying to seperate the Ned jig from being lost in mist of general finess jigs designs because it's a unique presentation, that is my point, terms have meaning. To reply to your question what finesse presentations I use with jigs; 1/8 oz dart heads 3/32, 1/8, 5/32 oz wacky ball head (flick shaky) jigs, no collar. 1/8, 3/16 oz round or pea head jigs, with collar. 1/8 oz, 1/4 oz shaky head jigs All of the above using 5, 6 & 7 lb line/spinning tackle. Tom Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted February 17, 2018 Super User Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 6:37 AM, Bluebasser86 said: Ned-1/16 Slider-1/8 Shaky-1/8 Grub-1/8 Also fish an ultra finesse skirted jig that I make that is 1/8 that is a killer in the spring when all the little craws are everywhere. +1 ... This would cover the majority of conditions / needs . Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted February 17, 2018 Super User Posted February 17, 2018 22 hours ago, WRB said: Finesse jig weight is the title term, not a semantic. When we constantly change fishing terminology and it creates a failure to communicate. Peace, Tom I know we're going a bit OT here, but... I agree completely on the fishing terminology stuff. In the case of this thread, I think what was written vs. what was meant are two different things - an honest mistake. But back on terminology, the obvious problem to me is deciding who gets to define the terms, and then who all agrees to that. As we've proven many times before on this site, in this regard, there is very little agreement, and hence there will always be differences of opinion on most subjects, which only leads to more confusion, not less for readers - but I'm afraid that's the new reality, and it will only get worse with time. 1 1 Quote
Bent Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Team9nine said: But back on terminology, the obvious problem to me is deciding who gets to define the terms, and then who all agrees to that. Team9nine for Terminology Czar 2018! 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 17, 2018 Super User Posted February 17, 2018 When Everyone decides their own version of what means what language is meaningless. This is why we have a dictionary for definitions. Fishing jargon differs from region to region, grass means aquatic vegetation to some and weeds to others and we are going to pot. I choose to refer to TW and Siefort as a reference knowing the OP would debate his choice of title and he did. It’s a mute point. Tom 1 Quote
jbrew73 Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 4 hours ago, WRB said: When Everyone decides their own version of what means what language is meaningless. This is why we have a dictionary for definitions. Fishing jargon differs from region to region, grass means aquatic vegetation to some and weeds to others and we are going to pot. I choose to refer to TW and Siefort as a reference knowing the OP would debate his choice of title and he did. It’s a mute point. Tom Let's all make sure to use wrb's dictionary of fishing jargon so there's no confusion from now on. 1 Quote
Todd2 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Posted February 18, 2018 We'll just have to agree to disagree on the terminology issue..but enough of that. Thanks for the responses, the 1/8 is quickly becoming my favorite with several different heads (especially Brewer's Snagless Slider). I've tried the 1/16, but not happy with the distance and feel, especially in some wind. Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 18, 2018 Super User Posted February 18, 2018 Define finesse, as it applies to this thread or to bass fishing. Tom 1 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted February 18, 2018 Super User Posted February 18, 2018 delicate and subtle appear to be the two most used words to define the word finesse... oe Quote
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