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1 hour ago, Joshua Vandamm said:

True. It’s the old all important

why + what = where  

formula ? 

 

 

 

Paul, Certainly true.  As a researcher, I’m a why/how guy. As a fisherman it’s what where and when all the way! LOL 

 

Anywhoo the question above, re: mate selection and size

I’d be very interested to hear about, since what we see from the bank are typically males during the spawn and fry guarding cycles. If you ID a large male it’d be useful to know if there’s a good chance there’s also a large female close by. 

 

Thanks again ?

 

Agreed, fishing alone isn't much of a sampling method, in terms of the why's.

 

Sorry... forgot to respond to that question. I can't really say. I've not seen anything that like that, that stood out anyway. Then again, my observation waters here in N CO do not tend to produce really out-sized females that might make such a thing more noticeable. Although the females here can get larger than the males, they are not substantially larger. And, the waters that produce large females also produce large males too. I think I can say that the largest females I've seen were generally with average sized males. I've had a couple ponds that produced uniquely large males. I only knew they were males bc they were with good-sized females, of equal size, on beds together.

 

I do remember a particular male that drew a crowd of females -the largest in that little 3acre pond. He was about 17 inches, the females 18 to 20. That pond had a shortage of males that year -likely fishing mortality. But this one male drew so much female attention that it really stood out. There was another big male on the other side of the pond that did not draw the big crowd. He did spawn however, with an 18inch female. His nest failed though as he was caught repeatedly (evidenced by hook bruises) and then was gone -likely kept. What did the attractive male have going for him? There's some good research that showed that scent -possibly a pheromone- was important in attracting spawning females, as scent was more important than even vision. However, the attractive male I mention had another thing going for him. He held a great site, beneath the largest overhanging tree on the pond. It's a tree that attracted the large bass in the pond all year long. 

 

I've not found too much on mate selection in bass in the literature, although I haven't looked specifically. There are some studies that have suggested that pairing -or close association with mates- can occur well prior to the spawn, even under the ice. Whether this is a social bond, or due to the fact that bass tend to group by size, is an open question.

 

Best I can do at present.

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BamaBass, SBFishingTV, YouTubeFishingVids, Bassresource, Scott Martin, and LFG are the ones I watch the most. Although LFG is a "Googan" now. 

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I just unsubscribe to anything that is not teaching me crap all theses videos that I been watching I realized I was wasting my time. A lot of pros are making videos you just got to look for them they’re barely starting to catch on with the you tube scene so they don’t have a ton of subrcribers but they are getting there. These are the videos I’m focusing on because even if they are entertaining like Scott martins channel he’s still a pro and one way or another your gonna pic up some good info here and there. The pros are like a decade behind on picking up on marketing themselves on social media specially you tube. 

    I watch bass resource videos that Glenn has put up because he’s teaching you something not all bass resource videos are Glenn teaching techniques but I do watch the ones that do teach because those are the type of videos you go back to watch over again to get a certain technique down at least from a perspective of someone that knows more.

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Glenn, I don't see anything wrong with your BassResource videos. You've put together an extensive reference library of fishing education material. You have a friendly easy going, approachable style. Looks to me like you are pretty well centered in the fishing education niche.

 

That said, it appears to me that to get really BIG on YT, one must be a YT channel first, and a (fishing) channel... somewhere else down the line. Each of us must decide on where we want to put our valuable time. (The Pro's burros mentions are already plenty busy.)

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15 hours ago, Paul Roberts said:

Agreed, fishing alone isn't much of a sampling method, in terms of the why's.

 

Sorry... forgot to respond to that question. I can't really say. I've not seen anything that like that, that stood out anyway. Then again, my observation waters here in N CO do not tend to produce really out-sized females that might make such a thing more noticeable. Although the females here can get larger than the males, they are not substantially larger. And, the waters that produce large females also produce large males too. I think I can say that the largest females I've seen were generally with average sized males. I've had a couple ponds that produced uniquely large males. I only knew they were males bc they were with good-sized females, of equal size, on beds together.

 

I do remember a particular male that drew a crowd of females -the largest in that little 3acre pond. He was about 17 inches, the females 18 to 20. That pond had a shortage of males that year -likely fishing mortality. But this one male drew so much female attention that it really stood out. There was another big male on the other side of the pond that did not draw the big crowd. He did spawn however, with an 18inch female. His nest failed though as he was caught repeatedly (evidenced by hook bruises) and then was gone -likely kept. What did the attractive male have going for him? There's some good research that showed that scent -possibly a pheromone- was important in attracting spawning females, as scent was more important than even vision. However, the attractive male I mention had another thing going for him. He held a great site, beneath the largest overhanging tree on the pond. It's a tree that attracted the large bass in the pond all year long. 

 

I've not found too much on mate selection in bass in the literature, although I haven't looked specifically. There are some studies that have suggested that pairing -or close association with mates- can occur well prior to the spawn, even under the ice. Whether this is a social bond, or due to the fact that bass tend to group by size, is an open question.

 

Best I can do at present.

Thanks Paul! Very insightful, null hypothesis or otherwise...still useful. ?

 

Nesting ground advantage makes a lot of sense. 

 

The pheromone angle is test worthy if ID’d and isolated... natural attractant? Tho application might produce strange results. ?

 

cheers!

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On 3/9/2018 at 11:30 PM, Glenn said:

Wow, no BassResource?  I need to understand why.  While I don't have control of our partner videos, I'm open to feedback on my videos.  Let's hear it!

I’m a subscriber. I get a lot out of your videos! 

Some guys just put a lot into them. Like underwater videos. Fish perspective. Seeing how the fish react to different lures is really interesting. 

 

Your vids are more instructive than most imo. Techniques wise it’s probably the best channel. Keep doing what you do! 

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Watching Bass Resource videos on YouTube is how I got involved with this forum. When I can't go fishing for whatever reason(s), I still watch Bass Resource on YouTube. Of course I watch the Pursuit channel and Outdoor channel for Bill Dance Outdoors show, Hook N Look, On The Water with Hank Parker and the MLF tournaments. There's a couple other shows I watch also, just can't think of the names right off hand.

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11 hours ago, Paul Roberts said:

Looks to me like you are pretty well centered in the fishing education niche.

WOW!!  Coming from you, Paul, that means a lot!  Because your videos are unbelievably good!

 

I'm not worthy! :D

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Milliken Fishing - Ben is the most hilarious yet crazy smart fisherman on yt

NDyakangler - you can kill off hours of time by watching him smashing giant smallies and staying so humble about it

Bassresource - the first fishing videos I ever saw were of Glenn teaching different techniques, still my go-to for new tactics

Keepinitreel - The most detailed reviews on the interweb, and his devotion to swimbait fishing will motivate you

 

Those are my top 5 

Posted

@Paul Roberts Just 1 other question if you have the time...

I’m unclear on what the females are doing during the spawn (when they’re not courting and laying eggs).

 

 If they continue to spawn with new partners, are they still circling back to guard all their broods? Is there a specific brood they guard more than others in your observations or during a certain developmental stage perhaps? Do they seem to even know which fry are theirs or just guard the ‘zone’ as a kind of team effort? And are they feeding while males guard?

 

I don’t know if anyone has the answers to all of that, but any insights you have are much appreciated!!

 

thanks a ton!

-Josh

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@Joshua Vandamm, it would be best to start a new thread for this question; Going OT (Off Topic) here. Not that that hasn't happened before. I may be the worst at that. :) Happy to chat.

 

On 3/10/2018 at 8:38 PM, Glenn said:

WOW!!  Coming from you, Paul, that means a lot!  Because your videos are unbelievably good!

 

I'm not worthy! :D

Thanks, Glenn!

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BassResource is my favorite informative channel. But just for entertainment, Googan Squad.

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