Riazuli Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Hey guys, wanted to do a poll to see what people prefer for the question raised in the title: ~7' M/M or MH/M (can be glass composite or graphite) for 1/2 oz Lipless? I voted medium for both as it does well with lower weights and 1/2 oz sits right in the middle of the lure rating; also I use braid, so the medium will allow for bass to inhale the bait while the stretch free braid still allows me to rip through grass - with stretching mono or fluoro I think MH makes more sense; finally, I am not a fan of the stiffness of the MH - it is not as sensitive, doesn't cast as well, and is less accurate (in comparison to a M; however, the MH will outshine the M for higher lure weights and when more backbone is needed). Please add why you voted the way you did (if you want to) so people can have more informed decisions on their choices! Quote
Riazuli Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 Interesting results so far, let's see if we can get 100 more in there! Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted February 8, 2018 Super User Posted February 8, 2018 I voted for M/M for open and MH/M for weeds, but you'll be fine with either. If you aren't worried about depth, you can use some heavy mono and then go with MH. 1 Quote
Super User deep Posted February 8, 2018 Super User Posted February 8, 2018 I prefer MH to even H power, and fast action, especially for ripping out of grass. Graphite. Think jig rod. Braid is ok I guess. I prefer fluoro for most baits, not including topwaters/ punching. 2 Quote
Riazuli Posted February 8, 2018 Author Posted February 8, 2018 7 hours ago, deep said: I prefer MH to even H power, and fast action, especially for ripping out of grass. Graphite. Think jig rod. Braid is ok I guess. I prefer fluoro for most baits, not including topwaters/ punching. I've currently got a mh/f setup that I'm dedicating for thick vegetation and mainly frogging over slop, but I might end up going heavy with that one. Outside of slop, I prefer to have more give in the rod. And while I'm kind of in-between in terms of how a m/m feels vs a mh/m when ripping (I prefer medium for general retrieve), I'm certain I prefer the medium over mh on the cast (apart from heavier lures like 3/4 +) 1 Quote
Riazuli Posted February 11, 2018 Author Posted February 11, 2018 Hey guys, please weigh in if you can - this question seems to be a big tossup for people (you can tell by the data already shown). This doesn't have to be limited to glass composite rods as the same specs work for graphite for this application. Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 11, 2018 Super User Posted February 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Riazuli said: Hey guys, please weigh in if you can - this question seems to be a big tossup for people (you can tell by the data already shown). This doesn't have to be limited to glass composite rods as the same specs work for graphite for this application. Can not reply to your poll because I use one rod in both open water & grass. Don't change rods, I might be throwing around grass & the next 50 yds will not have any grass! 1 Quote
FishDewd Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 I can't respond to poll because I've never ran a lipless. 1 Quote
Super User NHBull Posted February 11, 2018 Super User Posted February 11, 2018 You have to compare the same companies M to their MH. To many factors to answer your question, but can tell you that you need a rod with a broad range......as an example loomis MBR 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted February 11, 2018 Super User Posted February 11, 2018 I fish lippless baits quite a bit; especially early & late season. I 'voted' Medium Heavy/Moderate for both categories. However there's 2 factors that I have to add. 1. I fish glass/ graphite composite stick almost exclusively for lippless baits. 2. I'll use fluorocarbon in less cover and braid mainline in grass. A-Jay 2 Quote
Riazuli Posted February 11, 2018 Author Posted February 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Catt said: Can not reply to your poll because I use one rod in both open water & grass. Don't change rods, I might be throwing around grass & the next 50 yds will not have any grass! Thanks for your reply. I'm gonna stick to one rod for both - mine is a medium/moderate glass composite with a wide range for lure rating (1/4to 7/8). It's a Shimano expride that I'm receiving tomorrow! Very excited for that and while researching for the rod I realized people were almost split between m and mh, with a stronger lean toward mh for grass as the poll data suggests. It makes sense and it's nice the have the data to back it up for interested viewers. Personally, I'm happy to go with m/m for both conditions for reasons mentioned earlier and I'm glad I've got a small squad with me wielding m/m in grass too. As I mentioned before, I think braid evens it out vs stretchy fluoro or mono. 3 hours ago, NHBull said: You have to compare the same companies M to their MH. To many factors to answer your question, but can tell you that you need a rod with a broad range......as an example loomis MBR This was part of the reason I went with a Shimano expride which the m/m is rated for 1/4 to 7/8 oz. The shimano tech I spoke to before ordering also leaned me toward the m/m even with grass and up to 3/4. Based on my comments he said I wouldn't like the stiffness of the mh and he's right. I've got a mh for another setup just in case it works better for a certain situation so overall I'm very happy with my decision. 3 hours ago, A-Jay said: I fish lippless baits quite a bit; especially early & late season. I 'voted' Medium Heavy/Moderate for both categories. However there's 2 factors that I have to add. 1. I fish glass/ graphite composite stick almost exclusively for lippless baits. 2. I'll use fluorocarbon in less cover and braid mainline in grass. A-Jay Good to know! Thank you for your input 1 Quote
pauldconyers Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Would your vote change if you were using straight braid or fluoro? Quote
Jcj90 Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 7’ medium fast action rod with 12 or 15lb mono for all of my lipless crankbait fishing. Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted December 31, 2018 Super User Posted December 31, 2018 My lipless rod is a 7’0” mh/m. I use it for both open water and grass. I fish with 1/2 ounce baits most of the time. Quote
Riazuli Posted January 24, 2019 Author Posted January 24, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 11:19 PM, pauldconyers said: Would your vote change if you were using straight braid or fluoro? ya, I was saying in my first post that I made my decision based off of using braid. I think with fluoro and added stretch, you could get away with using a MH and not run the risk of ripping the lure out too quickly. Quote
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