Jig Hook for Marabou Hair Jig "Smallies"

[mattkenzer]

Good day to all,

 

I have done some internal reading but cannot seem to find a good answer so here is my question(s);

• who makes a high quality jig head with an oversized (not sure of exact size) stout hook (doesn't bend easily) in the 1/16 to 1/8 oz.?
• do they also make football jigs for larger 1/4 -1/2oz. hair jig styles.

 

Sorry if this has been asked numerous times and i just can't seem to find it.

 

Thank you.

[smalljaw67]

Have you used a 1/16oz marabou jig before? I ask because I tie a lot of them as well as pour them, and when it comes to that size I've never heard anyone ask for anything other than a light wire hook. The main reason is it is a light line technique that is normally 6lb fluorocarbon or 15lb braid with a 10' to 15' fluorocarbon leader in 6lb line, stout hooks with be a tough set at distance with light line and a medium light power rod.

[mattkenzer]

Thank you for the reply.

Yes i have tied a few and do use them.

I guess "stout" was probably the wrong choice of word but i am trying to find a good quality painted jig hook with a slightly larger hook than what i believe is 1/0. I understand that most are a light wire hook but i was hoping to find something a bit stronger. Maybe a jig with an Owner or Gamakatsu hook would solve my problem. The hook in the jigs i have are terrible.

[bobbyg]

I went fishing at Lake Guntersville with Kevin Hawk, a former Bassmaster Elite angler, and he has a signature line of football jigs made by 4x4 bass jigs, they use a 4/0 hook in them in a 1/2 oz, I would say they are "stout". As for a bare jig head. . . I am not going to be any help. If you google search Kevin Hawk jigs you should find them. I really like the Defensive Craw and Guntersville Magic colors.

the pictures are from https://www.another site.com/4x4-Bass-Jigs/4x4-Bass-Jigs-Kevin-Hawk-Signature-Series-Football-Jig

Edited February 6, 2018 by bobbyg
I read closer into the rules, and since I took them off of a website, the rules say I should have tagged the website. So I did.

[mattkenzer]

Thank you Bobby .... Nice looking jigs.

Let the Google Search begin.

[smalljaw67]

7 hours ago, bobbyg said:

I went fishing at Lake Guntersville with Kevin Hawk, a former Bassmaster Elite angler, and he has a signature line of football jigs made by 4x4 bass jigs, they use a 4/0 hook in them in a 1/2 oz, I would say they are "stout". As for a bare jig head. . . I am not going to be any help. If you google search Kevin Hawk jigs you should find them. I really like the Defensive Craw and Guntersville Magic colors.

the pictures are from https://www.another site.com/4x4-Bass-Jigs/4x4-Bass-Jigs-Kevin-Hawk-Signature-Series-Football-Jig

He is looking for a 1/6oz to 1/8oz jig head for a marabou jig, completely different. What you posted is easy to find, what he needs is tough because he wants a hook larger than a 1/0 but heavier wire in a very light weight. What makes that hard is there is only a little bit of lead in a large hook so the head tends to come loose from the hook even with hard lead. That said, I do make a 1/16oz ball head with a 2/0 Owner 5313 hook, it can also be made in a 1/8oz if that would be any help.

[WRB]

Look at Owner standup heads, Gamakatsu football heads and site sponsor sells plain jigs.

Tom

[mattkenzer]

Thank you for your help.

[IgotWood]

My favorite jig hook is the Owner Deep Throat. It's a relatively light wire, but very strong, and the point is super super sharp! I use them to tie small jigs too. A size 2 may suit your needs for those 1/8-1/16oz jig. These hooks can take a pretty good beating getting snagged while keeping their hook point!

[OkobojiEagle]

I realize I'm unorthodox, but I tie a bucktail/bunny/marabou jig on a Brewer spider head.  I use the 2/0 bronze hook, but they also offer a "pro" series with a stouter wire hook.

 

oe

[mattkenzer]

Thank you for your reply.

 

@IgotWood Are you purchasing your jig hooks without weight?

 

@OkobojiEagle That Spider Head is an interesting alternative. Thanks for sharing.

[IgotWood]

9 hours ago, mattkenzer said:

Thank you for your reply.

 

@IgotWood Are you purchasing your jig hooks without weight?

I purchase without weight. I actually add tungsten beads and/or tungsten cones to add weight. Google "belly scratcher minnow" and watch the tutorial. This technique allows the jig to fall level, rather than head first. I prefer this when fishing under a float. However, there are plenty of guys out there who would be happy to pour jigs for you with these hooks if that's what you prefer.  I'll post a pic shortly. 

[smalljaw67]

On ‎2‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 4:43 AM, IgotWood said:

My favorite jig hook is the Owner Deep Throat. It's a relatively light wire, but very strong, and the point is super super sharp! I use them to tie small jigs too. A size 2 may suit your needs for those 1/8-1/16oz jig. These hooks can take a pretty good beating getting snagged while keeping their hook point!

I use the small #1 5304 and I have to get them direct from Owner. I asked if they made a #2 and I was told the smallest is the #1 in the 5304, so where are you getting a size #2, I'm interested because I'd like to try those myself.

[IgotWood]

2 hours ago, smalljaw67 said:

I use the small #1 5304 and I have to get them direct from Owner. I asked if they made a #2 and I was told the smallest is the #1 in the 5304, so where are you getting a size #2, I'm interested because I'd like to try those myself.

Yup, looks like a 1 is the smallest available. I thought they came smaller. My mistake. If you do need smaller hooks, check out some fly tying jig hooks. Gamakatsu, Partridge, and Fire Hole all make very good jig hooks.

[mattkenzer]

On 2/16/2018 at 7:25 PM, IgotWood said:

I purchase without weight. I actually add tungsten beads and/or tungsten cones to add weight. Google "belly scratcher minnow" and watch the tutorial. This technique allows the jig to fall level, rather than head first. I prefer this when fishing under a float. However, there are plenty of guys out there who would be happy to pour jigs for you with these hooks if that's what you prefer.  I'll post a pic shortly. 

Thank you for sharing ... This gives me a few ideas.

[teamhillbilly2012]

Owner 5313's might be your best bet

[scaleface]

On 2/16/2018 at 7:39 AM, OkobojiEagle said:

I realize I'm unorthodox, but I tie a bucktail/bunny/marabou jig on a Brewer spider head.  I use the 2/0 bronze hook, but they also offer a "pro" series with a stouter wire hook.

 

oe

I bet marabou is a killer on a Slider Head . I love marabou for bass jigs .

[smalljaw67]

4 hours ago, scaleface said:

I bet marabou is a killer on a Slider Head . I love marabou for bass jigs .

I saw a picture of those jigs he ties on the slider head, impressive to say the least.

[mattkenzer]

On 2/16/2018 at 7:25 PM, IgotWood said:

I purchase without weight. I actually add tungsten beads and/or tungsten cones to add weight. Google "belly scratcher minnow" and watch the tutorial. This technique allows the jig to fall level, rather than head first. I prefer this when fishing under a float. However, there are plenty of guys out there who would be happy to pour jigs for you with these hooks if that's what you prefer.  I'll post a pic shortly. 

I would greatly appreciate you posting a pic. when you have a moment.

[IgotWood]

I'm sorry, man. I tried to post a pic the other day but I was having trouble resizing it. And now I am prepping to move this weekend and all my stuff is packed in a box. I should be able to dig my stuff out by monday.

[mattkenzer]

52 minutes ago, IgotWood said:

I'm sorry, man. I tried to post a pic the other day but I was having trouble resizing it. And now I am prepping to move this weekend and all my stuff is packed in a box. I should be able to dig my stuff out by monday.

All good my friend .... whenever you get a chance is perfectly fine.

 

I hope the move goes well.