fish'n Jim Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 One has to consider not all marine aluminum is salt water grade. You don't want a fresh water grade in salt environments. I don't think I said it couldn't be done. He's talking a 18'+ bass boat here. I have a Lund bass boat and it's welded... As to rivets vs welds, welds are generally stronger, rivets have a crevice and crevices lead to corrosion. Welding fills the seam. Aircraft are riveted, but it doesn't matter it some air leaks in or out and adds to the flexural strength. You don't want your aircraft to crack in half. There are plenty of fiberglass and steel work boats out there as well. These are my preferences, you do what you want. Don't shoot the messenger. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 13, 2018 Super User Posted February 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, fish'n Jim said: I have a Lund bass boat and it's welded... I'm just going to stop right there. 2 Quote
Way north bass guy Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 9 hours ago, fish'n Jim said: Aircraft are riveted, but it doesn't matter it some air leaks in or out and adds to the flexural strength. This is new to me, I’m pretty sure when your 30,000 feet up you DO NOT want any air leakage in your mode of transportation. I’ve owned several riveted aluminum boats and I’ll keep using them. ? 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 14, 2018 Super User Posted February 14, 2018 There's no such thing as saltwater grade aluminum! 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted February 14, 2018 Super User Posted February 14, 2018 20 hours ago, J Francho said: I'm just going to stop right there. The new 2018 Lund Predator, which is a utility jon, is made by Crestliner and is welded. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 14, 2018 Super User Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Catt said: There's no such thing as saltwater grade aluminum! Exactly. ANY WATER is bad for untreated aluminum. All Aluminum boats are treated. 1 hour ago, slonezp said: The new 2018 Lund Predator, which is a utility jon, is made by Crestliner and is welded. Why do I doubt that this is the boat? The point is, one can't make a statement that riveted boats being weaker than welded, and then claim leakage at the rivets helps with strength. It doesn't add up. And you, as a riveted Lund owner know the rivet deal is false. Can rivets leak? Yes. Can a welded boat bust a seam? Yes. Ask me how I and two other welded boat owners know this. There's no better, just different, and varying quality. 3 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted February 14, 2018 Super User Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, J Francho said: Exactly. ANY WATER is bad for untreated aluminum. All Aluminum boats have are treated. 1 hour ago, Catt said: There's no such thing as saltwater grade aluminum! I think there is 2 grades of aluminum (5052 and 5056)primarily used for fishing boats neither has anything to do with type of water. 5056 is a higher grade, but the point about being for saltwater is moot. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 14, 2018 Super User Posted February 14, 2018 57 minutes ago, slonezp said: I think there is 2 grades of aluminum (5052 and 5056)primarily used for fishing boats neither has anything to do with type of water. 5056 is a higher grade, but the point about being for saltwater is moot. The reason 5052 & 5056 are used is they are both highly weldable. Any untreated aluminum is susceptible to corrosion & you don't need saltwater to cause corrosion, all you need is moisture. 2 Quote
Super User Further North Posted February 15, 2018 Super User Posted February 15, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 9:52 AM, J Francho said: I'm just going to stop right there. Details, details... 11 hours ago, J Francho said: Can rivets leak? Yes. Can a welded boat bust a seam? Yes. Ask me how I and two other welded boat owners know this. There's no better, just different, and varying quality. Nailed it, right there... Quote
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