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Hey Everyone, I'm almost in the market for a bigger rod to handle stuff from 1oz to maybe 6 oz lures.  I stopped by sportsman's warehouse today and the few inexpensive one's I saw were huge!   Pic attached also the link is here:  http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sportsmans/Denali-Bottom-Feeder-Casting-Rod/productDetail/Casting-Rods/prod99999039982/cat101028

 

Is there any less than a hundo that would handle the lure weight but is lighter and smaller than the beast above?  Or would I expect a rod similar to above for throwing heavy stuff for less than $100?

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Is this for swimbaits? And when you say huge what do you mean, were they heavy, was the blank thick, are they "too long"? Because trust me, at those weight ranges you want NEED a longer rod (think up around the 8' mark), both to cast the baits effectively but also to save yourself physical discomfort. 

 

If this rod is for fishing bait on the bottom then that's a different story and something I have little experience with. 

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1 minute ago, MassYak85 said:

Is this for swimbaits? And when you say huge what do you mean, were they heavy, was the blank thick, are they "too long"? Because trust me, at those weight ranges you want NEED a longer rod (think up around the 8' mark), both to cast the baits effectively but also to save yourself physical discomfort. 

 

If this rod is for fishing bait on the bottom then that's a different story and something I have little experience with. 

Good questions:  I guess the rod is for fishing bait on the bottom, and I don't have any experience in that either.  I was just walking through sportsman's warehouse checking out rods that could handle bigger baits than mine.  

 

Yes, I'm looking for a rod that I can throw bigger baits like The Little Creeper All American 8" Trash Fish which weighs 2.25 ozs.  Or the savage gear 3d rat 11-3/4“ weighing 3-3/4 oz.  But I don't want get fatigued casting such big gear.

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Okay that helps, so this is a "swimbait" rod you are after then. In that case you will be doing a lot of casting. You say you don't want to get fatigued by a longer rod. It may seem counter-intuitive, but this is the opposite approach you need to have for these big lures. Most swimbait rods you see are long (most are up around 8') for a very good reason, you need that length for the rod to load up and cast these lures, if you have a short rod you are going to be hurting yourself, both in casting distance, and probably in a literal sense. When I got my 8' rod for throwing 5oz huddlestons and similar swimbaits, my first thought when using it was not "wow, I wish they made this in a 7'2"....it was "wow, I should have gotten the 8'6". You need to let the rod do the work, with a short rod these big lures are going to make YOU do the work and you will wear yourself out. 

 

Check out some of these, they are pretty good beginner options:

 

http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Okuma_Guide_Select_a_Series_Swimbait_Casting_Rods/descpage-OGSA.html

 

http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_DX_Swimbait_Casting_Rods/descpage-DXB.html

 

http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Dobyns_Fury_Casting_Rods/descpage-DFC.html

 

If I may ask, which rods did you check out in person that seemed "huge"? With advances in rod making many of these longer swimbait rods are actually fairly light. 

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This is not what you want.  This a catfish rod.  The cheap rod that people start with is the okuma guide select.  This not a swimbait rod

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Fot baits as heavy as you want to throw, you should be looking at musky rods. 

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Another cheap option might be a musky rod, which will be fast action and be good for the single hook baits like a huddleston trouts gills or mattlures top hook gills.

Dam people are thinking faster than i am and beating me by seconds.... ;)

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The Dobyn's Fury 795 and 806 along with the Okuma Guide Select are proven swimbait rods that are reasonably priced. I own both and like them both for different things. The Okuma would be my choice for the baits you listed. The Dobyn's I like better for glide baits or WTD topwaters because it's a little shorter and makes manipulating the baits easier. I can fish with either all day with minimal fatigue (there's going to be some regardless of gear used when you're flinging a big bait all day). 

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The rod should be doing the launching of the lure, you provide the motion. If you feel that casting a rod with reel and lure that weighs under a pound too heavy don't get into swimbaits weighing over 4 oz. 

Dobyns FR759 SB will work for swimbaits 3 oz or less.

Musky rods have heavier upper tod tip action then a moderate action swimbait rod that are similar to crankbait rod and designed to

cast swimbaits not hook muskies.

Tom

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Zebco Bite Alert Spinning Combo. It’s only $50 and it can handle 1-8 oz lures and 17-50 line. I use it for my savage gear bat, duck, and iBobber. Well worth it, it’s cheaper than buying all those lures again. 

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Okuma was my first swimbait rod and it worked very well for the price.

 

I now use Dobyns chapion series swimbait rods and they work excellent.

 

Here is the Curado 301 on a Okuma

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1 hour ago, Yumeya said:

Okuma was my first swimbait rod and it worked very well for the price.

 

I now use Dobyns chapion series swimbait rods and they work excellent.

 

Here is the Curado 301 on a Okuma

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Excellent sharp picture.  And the handle is on my preferred side.  :teeth:  What camera/phone did you take the picture with.  I had to add the phone option as I think mine takes better pictures than my old DSLR.  

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8 hours ago, new2BC4bass said:

Excellent sharp picture.  And the handle is on my preferred side.  :teeth:  What camera/phone did you take the picture with.  I had to add the phone option as I think mine takes better pictures than my old DSLR.  

Its a old samsung s4 still going strong :)

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