Super User Dwight Hottle Posted January 19, 2018 Super User Posted January 19, 2018 The new shimano bantam has been released & according to Bantam1 feels like a conquest in a low profile design. Looks like shimano hit a home run with this one. http://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=77478 1 Quote
Jelvas Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 No PG version.... in that case i´m gonna pass on this one. 1 Quote
kschultz76 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Looks like an interesting reel. Would like to see a magnesium version for weight savings. Quote
Maico1 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Jelvas said: No PG version.... in that case i´m gonna pass on this one. Yes there is JDM....... Spec table Part number Gear ratio Maximum drag force (kg) Own weight (g) Spool size (Diameter mm / width mm) Nylon thread wound amount (lb - m) Maximum winding length (cm / 1 turn of handle) Handle length (mm) Number of bearings BB / Roller Main unit price (yen) Product code MGL PG RIGHT 5.5 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 59 42 8/1 39,000 03855 5 MGL PG LEFT 5.5 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 59 42 8/1 39,000 03856 2 MGL RIGHT 6.2 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 66 42 8/1 39,000 03853 1 MGL LEFT 6.2 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 66 42 8/1 39,000 03854 8 MGL HG RIGHT 7.1 5.0 220 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 76 42 8/1 39,000 03857 9 MGL HG LEFT 7.1 5.0 220 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 76 42 8/1 39,000 03858 6 MGL XG RIGHT 8.1 5.0 225 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 86 45 8/1 39,000 03859 3 MGL XG LEFT 8.1 5.0 225 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 86 45 8/1 39,000 03860 9 * PG is a power gear specification, HG is a high gear specification, XG is an extra high gear specification. 1 Quote
Jelvas Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Maico1 said: Yes there is JDM....... Spec table Part number Gear ratio Maximum drag force (kg) Own weight (g) Spool size (Diameter mm / width mm) Nylon thread wound amount (lb - m) Maximum winding length (cm / 1 turn of handle) Handle length (mm) Number of bearings BB / Roller Main unit price (yen) Product code MGL PG RIGHT 5.5 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 59 42 8/1 39,000 03855 5 MGL PG LEFT 5.5 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 59 42 8/1 39,000 03856 2 MGL RIGHT 6.2 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 66 42 8/1 39,000 03853 1 MGL LEFT 6.2 5.0 215 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 66 42 8/1 39,000 03854 8 MGL HG RIGHT 7.1 5.0 220 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 76 42 8/1 39,000 03857 9 MGL HG LEFT 7.1 5.0 220 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 76 42 8/1 39,000 03858 6 MGL XG RIGHT 8.1 5.0 225 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 86 45 8/1 39,000 03859 3 MGL XG LEFT 8.1 5.0 225 34/22 12-130, 14-110 16-100 86 45 8/1 39,000 03860 9 * PG is a power gear specification, HG is a high gear specification, XG is an extra high gear specification. This pi###s me of! Why not make all versions available worldwide is something i´ll never understand... Quote
Stephen B Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 I couldn't agree more. For a reel to MSRP at $350, I think they could have done magnesium. I am interested in the upgrades to the Stella. I can't wait to see these upgrades trickle into other models. The new Micro Module II provides a new ideal gear design and gear teeth surface for amazing smoothness and nearly twice the strength of Shimano’s already unmatched gear durability. X-Protect makes the new Stella up to five times more resistant to the long term damaging effects of water than the previous model, so every turn of the handle is sure to feel as good as new even after years of use. 17 hours ago, kschultz76 said: Looks like an interesting reel. Would like to see a magnesium version for weight savings. Quote
Yumeya Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 I will take one....asap That PG model would be one awesome crankbait reel Quote
Big-Bass Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 1:24 PM, Stephen B said: I couldn't agree more. For a reel to MSRP at $350, I think they could have done magnesium. I am interested in the upgrades to the Stella. I can't wait to see these upgrades trickle into other models. The new Micro Module II provides a new ideal gear design and gear teeth surface for amazing smoothness and nearly twice the strength of Shimano’s already unmatched gear durability. X-Protect makes the new Stella up to five times more resistant to the long term damaging effects of water than the previous model, so every turn of the handle is sure to feel as good as new even after years of use. The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300. The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7. I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance. To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium. For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile. And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands. I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam. Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels. 4 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 24, 2018 Super User Posted January 24, 2018 ^ all that, plus 7 oz. reels aren't for the limp wristed, I guess! Quote
kschultz76 Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Big-Bass said: The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300. The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7. I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance. To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium. For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile. And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands. I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam. Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels. While that all may be your opinion and maybe valid, I’d like to see this new frame construction and features in a magnesium package as well as the aluminum version. I would expect it to be priced higher, and maybe come to the next revision of the Metanium. For my needs and fishing style reels getting heavier doesn’t excite me. 1 hour ago, J Francho said: ^ all that, plus 7 oz. reels aren't for the limp wristed, I guess! Yep all of us who prefer lighter reels for various reasons are weak limp wristed, etc. the fact is I had a wrist injury a whole lot years ago and in the past several years I’m having problems with that wrist. The reel close to 8 oz, an oz heavier then a Chronarch MGL or a Metanium in the higher gear ratios. Doesn’t seem like a lot of weight but it’s a difference you can feel. Not saying the reel won’t be amazing or a game changer. I’d just like to see a lighter version. I’ll add this, the design and construction look amazing and innovative, it is an exciting advancement. Also the weight is probably lower then you would expect for such a robust aluminum frame. Hopefully the design philosophy finds its way into other reels in the future. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 24, 2018 Super User Posted January 24, 2018 I have shoulder and elbow issues. Do a search for the two-handed cast thread. Lots of good tips in there. Just a few years ago, 8 oz. was considered light. Quote
Florida Cracker2 Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 Last one I purchased is 7.3 oz. and I still cain't get over how light it is. But I'm used to my old school bantam 200, 1000, and a Ambassador 5000c. Quote
Poolshark Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 12 hours ago, Big-Bass said: The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300. The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7. I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance. To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium. For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile. And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands. I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam. Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels. ^this. The chronarchs and metanium cover the lightweight reel spectrum. Many people have said they wanted shimano to build an affordable, high performance reel like a tank; as they did with some of the reels of old. I think this caters to them. I'm looking forward to fishing one. Quote
Yumeya Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 All I want is a shallow spool But I'm sure HedgeHog studio will take care of that for me... Quote
Maico1 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Yumeya said: All I want is a shallow spool But I'm sure HedgeHog studio will take care of that for me... http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/reel/5341 1 Quote
Yumeya Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Maico1 said: http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/reel/5341 Well there goes my money... 1 1 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted January 25, 2018 Super User Posted January 25, 2018 Another interesting factoid about this reel that hasn't been brought up here yet is the fact that the palm side no longer has a side plate. It is threaded directly into the body, giving the frame a much more rigid design than previous designs. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 25, 2018 Super User Posted January 25, 2018 Not just the palm plate, but the nose cone as well. It really is constructed like their round reels. Quote
Maico1 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, J Francho said: Not just the palm plate, but the nose cone as well. It really is constructed like their round reels. Can you say Conquest..... 2 Quote
npl_texas Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 I've read all of this stuff but I still don't understand where this reel really fits in and what it's purpose would be. It seems like Chronarch MGL or Metanium MGL. I like shiny new things like everyone else but I don't get this one. 1 Quote
Super User burrows Posted January 25, 2018 Super User Posted January 25, 2018 Why is shimano making theses reels so heavy? Quote
Big-Bass Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Burro said: Why is shimano making theses reels so heavy? What I said earlier: The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300. The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7. I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance. To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium. For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile. And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands. I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam. Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels. 1 Quote
Super User burrows Posted January 25, 2018 Super User Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Big-Bass said: What I said earlier: The point of this reel not being magnesium is they have the Metanium at $419 for that purpose and the if you didn't want magnesium but wanted Ci4+, the Chronarch MGL or G fits that bill just under $300. The Bantam is a made in Japan all aluminum reel that is what many Shimano fans have been asking for since the Chronarch D7. I think they made a smart move using aluminum especially with the micro module gearing as it will translate to butter smooth retrieves and built like a tank performance. To save an ounce and use magnesium would be redundant to the lineup not to mention hurt the sales of the Metanium. For many who have felt these reels already at the Japanese shows, they are essentially as smooth as a Conquest only low profile. And the Conquest is the smoothest reel I have ever had in my hands. I have owned Metanium MGLs and Chronarch MGLs and I am excited to see and try the Bantam. Hopefully, it will offer the same build quality and performance of the Calcutta TE, Calais 100A, and Chronarch SF reels. I understand what your saying, it makes sense but I still would like to see this reel in the 7.4 range. Quote
Big-Bass Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Burro said: I understand what your saying, it makes sense but I still would like to see this reel in the 7.4 range. It weighs 7.6oz.! http://fish.shimano.com/content/sac-fish/en/home/products/fishing-reels/baitcast/bantam-mgl.html 1 1 Quote
Yumeya Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Personally I think this would be good on longer rods 7+feet, it will balance them out a bit better with the added weight of the reel. This reel will be my go to for spinnerbaits, chatterbaits and small swimbaits... Thinking GLX 893 Quote
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