Preytorien Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 I know I'm jumping the gun here, it's only mid-January in Indiana, and most of our waters aren't warm enough for ice-out yet, but do the bass' behaviors change immediately after ice out? What I mean is, once they observe that there's no longer ice above them, do they kick into any kind of feeding mode or become more active? Or is their activity level solely based on water temps, regardless of if the ice is gone? 3 Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 16, 2018 Super User Posted January 16, 2018 Smallmouth yes.... Largemouth seem to take their sweet time. I will fish for smallies from ice out until the water is in the low 50's then start chasing LM. I have some decent days fishing for largemouth in 40 degree water, but it's unpredictable at best. Quote
BassNJake Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 I have caught a few really nice LMB by dragging my blade bait off of ice into open water. Dont know why but since then I have not discounted the possibility based on personal experience. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 16, 2018 Super User Posted January 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, ww2farmer said: Smallmouth yes.... Largemouth seem to take their sweet time. I will fish for smallies from ice out until the water is in the low 50's then start chasing LM. I have some decent days fishing for largemouth in 40 degree water, but it's unpredictable at best. My experience echoes what you've found. LMB seem extremely inactive below 50°. Some of my biggest SMB have come from waters south of that temperature, though. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 16, 2018 Super User Posted January 16, 2018 LMB seem to transition slowly after ice out but will still often bite - a little. SMB - are ready to go. As soon as there's open water - I'm fishing. Here a clip from a killer day I had on a lake spring 2016 where the smallies we're chewing up a jerkbait pretty good and there was still quite a bit of ice on the water right next to where I was having the most success. A-Jay 4 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted January 16, 2018 Super User Posted January 16, 2018 If there is a warming trend some big largemouths can be caught . After several days of warm weather I have caught some lunkers by targeting steep south facing sunny banks . I have always used an Argobast Mudbug in crawdad color . In the afternoons after the sun has hit the bank for a couple of hours , position the boat to make parallel cast . Then reel the lure in with rod tip low , agonizingly slow . I showed this technique to another fisherman and he has caught two 8 lbers . Thats a big bass in these parts . Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 16, 2018 Super User Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, J Francho said: My experience echoes what you've found. LMB seem extremely inactive below 50°. Some of my biggest SMB have come from waters south of that temperature, though. Funny thing is....last two falls (I know different than ice out) my best action for smallmouth has been in low 60 degree water, and largemouth in mid 40 degree water. Go figure. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 16, 2018 Super User Posted January 16, 2018 You might have a better data set for fall, fishing same or similar water consistently. By fall, I'm after other species, or all over the place for bass. Quote
Mr. Aquarium Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 ive caught some large bass in early spring even on topwaters. find a sun baked shore fish there with jigs and jerkbaits. shallow ponds are the best to start, theres no where for them to go. crawl jigs and swimbaits on bottom. if fishing deep water, find structure, dips and holes, steep drops, humps, blades, jigs, jerkbaits, swimbaits will work Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted January 17, 2018 Super User Posted January 17, 2018 By that time I don't much care. I just wanna get out. After a winter like having, so far....."I WANNA GO FISHING "!!!!!!! Hootie 4 Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted January 17, 2018 Super User Posted January 17, 2018 Telemetry has shown that bass, and bluegills, can start inshore movements at or even just prior to ice-out. Some of this, as well as activity changes at late ice, smacks of an endogenous rhythm possibly kicking in. Conditions-wise, the surface and shallows -esp along N shorelines- heat first and can activate, even draw fish. After ice-out there's nowhere to go but up temperature wise. And it can happen pretty quickly by early spring due to sun angle then. But each water body is laid out differently so results may vary. Also, different populations may have developed different patterns, so... results may vary. In my winter fishing ponds, bluegills tend to show along heated shorelines first. The bass come a bit later. Above 50F is a good number to expect bass. But, this doesn't mean that bass -in larger waters or those laid out with a decidedly warmer area with appropriate layout (depth, cover, food, ...) -can't be moving and staging even earlier (keeping the endogenous rhythm and population adaptations in mind). I shot a video last year -to be released this year- where I look for late winter/early spring bass in a shallow but sprawling pit that has a marked wintering area -a deep trench that stacks them in. An early thaw (Feb) brought 50F to the incident (N) bank, and bluegills. But I found the bass still stacked up in the trench. Not sure how much this helps in any precise way, but may give you some things to think about. At least this is the stuff I'm thinking about when after late-winter bass, at this point. I'm talking LMs here. 1 Quote
Preytorien Posted January 17, 2018 Author Posted January 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, Paul Roberts said: Telemetry has shown that bass, and bluegills, can start inshore movements at or even just prior to ice-out. Some of this, as well as activity changes at late ice, smacks of an endogenous rhythm possibly kicking in. Conditions-wise, the surface and shallows -esp along N shorelines- heat first and can activate, even draw fish. After ice-out there's nowhere to go but up temperature wise. And it can happen pretty quickly by early spring due to sun angle then. But each water body is laid out differently so results may vary. Also, different populations may have developed different patterns, so... results may vary. In my winter fishing ponds, bluegills tend to show along heated shorelines first. The bass come a bit later. Above 50F is a good number to expect bass. But, this doesn't mean that bass -in larger waters or those laid out with a decidedly warmer area with appropriate layout (depth, cover, food, ...) -can't be moving and staging even earlier (keeping the endogenous rhythm and population adaptations in mind). I shot a video last year -to be released this year- where I look for late winter/early spring bass in a shallow but sprawling pit that has a marked wintering area -a deep trench that stacks them in. An early thaw (Feb) brought 50F to the incident (N) bank, and bluegills. But I found the bass still stacked up in the trench. Not sure how much this helps in any precise way, but may give you some things to think about. At least this is the stuff I'm thinking about when after late-winter bass, at this point. I'm talking LMs here. Very helpful - thank you. I can relate to your conditions since the majority of my very early season fishing is usually ponds / small lakes, so I presume the earliest warming banks will still be my best bet, even when the water is cold than I'd typically target. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted January 19, 2018 Super User Posted January 19, 2018 Go to Youtube and look up Bomber Flat A HowTo by legend Bobby Murray . That is exactly how I fish crankbaits after ice out during a warming trend . I've never used the Flat A then but I will give it a try next time . Quote
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