10lb Florida strain LMB equals?

[TnRiver46]

3 hours ago, BassObsessed said:

The Florida strain won't survive the temps in Ohio.

They don't survive the temps in Tennessee either but the breed with the natives and form the massive F1 hybrid 

[BassObsessed]

Iv'e been tempted for years to get some f1's shipped up here for a couple of my ponds but don't think they'll make it.

[WRB]

4 hours ago, BassObsessed said:

Iv'e been tempted for years to get some f1's shipped up here for a couple of my ponds but don't think they'll make it.

Prolonged exposure to water less than 45 degrees is the Florida strains minimum water temps for survival. F1 is the 1st generation NLMN and pure FLMB intergrade, it's 1 generation, not a sub strain of LMB. 2 F1's doesn't = F1 offspring.

Spring fed pond should have 50-60 degree water near the spring year around.

Tom

[JustJames]

@WRBwould you think FLMB would survive in Canyon Lake? I'm serious joining bass club here this year and I know they do stock new bass to the lake from time to time. 

So far I've heard the biggest bass being caught here is around 12lb. If I can get FLMB into the lake, wow possibilities of bigger and easier DD bass. 

 

[WRB]

20 minutes ago, JustJames said:

@WRBwould you think FLMB would survive in Canyon Lake? I'm serious joining bass club here this year and I know they do stock new bass to the lake from time to time. 

So far I've heard the biggest bass being caught here is around 12lb. If I can get FLMB into the lake, wow possibilities of bigger and easier DD bass. 

 

No reason why they wouldn't survive and may already be in the lake? George Kramer would know if they already have been introduced in Canyon lake.

Tom

[TnRiver46]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

Prolonged exposure to water less than 45 degrees is the Florida strains minimum water temps for survival. F1 is the 1st generation NLMN and pure FLMB intergrade, it's 1 generation, not a sub strain of LMB. 2 F1's doesn't = F1 offspring.

Spring fed pond should have 50-60 degree water near the spring year around.

Tom

Basically what they do here is stock pure Florida strain every year and the result is F1. If they didn't stock more pure Florida every year then eventually the natives would outcompete them completely. That first generation F1 is cold tolerant and can get abnormally large

[BassObsessed]

Read in the book where the northern strain genetics will dominate over the f1's which will result in smaller potential down the road.

[Bluebasser86]

2 hours ago, BassObsessed said:

Read in the book where the northern strain genetics will dominate over the f1's which will result in smaller potential down the road.

One of the power plant lakes I fish was stocked with Florida strain LMB many years ago and had a streak of producing many fish over 10 pounds as a result. Now the pure Florida genes have been mixed with the northern strain genes and those giants are rarer and rarer. They still grow bigger than most any other lake in the state though, with a 10lb 1oz, and 10lb 15oz giant being caught last spring. The latter was less than a pound from the state record. 

[WRB]

The FLMB average life in CA is about 15 years. When pure FLMB are stocked it's usually fingerlings or slightly larger juvenile size bass, not adults. It takes a few generations for all the pure FLMB to mix with NLMB, so there will a few generations of FLMB spawning together producing more FLMB. This is the reason that a few giants show up after 30 of more years after the initial stocking of FLMB.

Tom