Jaderose Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 Meh.....who cares? Wanna watch fishing videos? knock yourself out. A few are great. Most are unwatchable to my 50 yr old eyes and ears. I have an old flip phone. I've never taken a picture of a fish I have caught, let alone made a video. I just don't give any poops whether YOU see me catch a fish and can't imagine that you would be interested in seeing me do so. I just fish. Get off my lawn! 2 1 1
Quarry Man Posted January 11, 2018 Posted January 11, 2018 I am 16. I started fishing for bass heavily in 2016 during the summer. Come winter, I began to look into new lures, then I found youtube. Most of my basic knowledge comes from there. Later on, I found bass resource, way more informative, that is also where i noticed the little details that make all the difference in the world. Instead of learning what rod to throw a spinnerbait on in the spring from youtube, here I learned how to retrieve it, when hand why to fish it. Stuff like that. It also explains why I caught 100ish bass in 2016 (one 50 fish day) to 752 LMBs in 2017. Without this site, I would still be on Youtube right now. When I first started watching the "Big Channels", they all had like 17k subscribers. Back then they made great content. They actually taught me how to fish. ow I stopped watching because it is a joke about making money and telling kids to quit school. I sense that this sudden change in the lack of content will make dropping out of school a regretted decision in a few years, but I will be the first to say that I hope it works out for them. There is nothing better than being your own boss and waking up everyday and loving your job. 2
LOTR88 Posted January 11, 2018 Posted January 11, 2018 There is plenty of informative content on YouTube when it comes to Bass fishing, it all depends on what you are looking for. I watch a lot of bass fishing YouTube videos and have picked a few I follow because they are either informative or entertaining, some of them just make me laugh and we can all use a laugh. As for how it affects the industry I can't really say, I don't fish tournaments, I live on a lake and fish for the fun of it. I have taken a few action cam videos of me fishing but the novelty wore off quick with me, it was too much work...lol. As for it being expensive to bass fish that also depends on the person, you don't need to send a lot of money to catch a bass. 1
Brock_v Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 I'm 13 and absolutely love fishing, My dad is a die hard musky fisherman and doesnt really like fishing for bass. So one day a couple summers ago my friend suggested we went fishing so we did and i was hooked on the sport. Now i know more about fishing than almost all the adults in my city and have a true passion. I make my own youtube videos myself but i am more interested in watching tips, trying to learn more about tackle and how people store their tackle so that's the types of videos i make i focus more about teaching than about entertaining. I think The googan squad is cool but id rather watch other fishing videos like ( mikey ballzz, Benjamin Nowak and Alex Rudd ) People who consistantly catch big fish and tech you how to do it. Whens the last time (not in mexico ) have you seen a googan catch a 9 pounder 3 days in row like mikey ballz. That's all i have to say. 1
Super User scaleface Posted January 16, 2018 Super User Posted January 16, 2018 If I was a better speaker then I woudnt mind making some fishing videos . I have a couple of metal detecting videos on Facebook and I'm not very good at communicating . 1
rosshilk Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 I am a bit awestruck by the way Youtuber's are changing the scene. The young men that make videos like the googen squad drive me a bit crazy. Before the scene started changing to entertainment instead of education I enjoyed some of their videos. The fact that companies are designing rods with these kids names to sell them is a bit alarming. They are not professional fisherman in my opinion, so I find it foolish that people buy their "designed" rods. Ive never used their products and never will. I have no trust in their opinions of what is necessary to have a quality rod. I do still like some youtube video series very much. I enjoy Glen's material, wired to fish, and the Tacklejunky. Tacklejunky does not come off overly attached to his sponsors products, and seems far more interested in discussing the techniques and baits that he has had success with. I far prefer education over entertainment. I also feel like some of these youtuber's who get sponsorship due to their silly antics and view potential harms somewhat the professional fisherman. Sponsorship money in a lot of anglers cases is hard to get. Some 23 year old kid opening boxes with a weed whacker getting that money over a guy with 30 years experience fishing the tour circuits in my mind is appalling.
Super User J Francho Posted January 17, 2018 Super User Posted January 17, 2018 I'm still unclear how YouTubers are changing the scene? I mean, I've been fishing a long time, and I just don't get what "scene" they've affected. It's fishing. And I'm not sure who is actually making any kind of REAL money doing it. There's a few top educators, but other than that, free stuff in return for a plug isn't real money, and the bottom is falling out of that market anyway. 1
Hez Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, J Francho said: I'm still unclear how YouTubers are changing the scene? IMO...YouTubers are changing the scene simply by increasing the popularity in the younger generation. I got back into fishing because of YouTube 3 years ago...and look at me now...I'm as hardcore as they get. Include a handful of friends...plus some teenagers/kids I know that fell victim to fishing via the same way (YouTube). Fishing was a dying sport...now with the help of YouTube and social media...the fishing industry is revived...along with the boating industry...and the outdoors industry in general. I think it's absolutely phenomenal
Super User burrows Posted January 18, 2018 Author Super User Posted January 18, 2018 This is what I've noticed with you tube. Selling your brand is easier and makes the angler more popular depending on the channels success. This is why alot of professionals make content to reach the younger generation that does not watch TV like most of us older folk. Kids don't watch TV anymore there watching youtube and facebook videos and whatever else but tv is becoming like radio that's why most tvs are smart tvs so ppl can watch Internet content. In order for a tournament angler to sell themselves to the younger generation they absolutely need to make content. This is why youtubers can make and sell there own products because of their popularity. These products rods reels whatever is mainly in the 100 to 200 dollar range targeting young anglers looking for the next coolest rods, reels at an affordable cost.
Super User J Francho Posted January 18, 2018 Super User Posted January 18, 2018 17 hours ago, Hez said: Fishing was a dying sport...now with the help of YouTube and social media...the fishing industry is revived...along with the boating industry...and the outdoors industry in general. Numbers are still down, way down. 3 minutes ago, Burro said: This is why youtubers can make and sell there own products because of their popularity. These products rods reels whatever is mainly in the 100 to 200 dollar range targeting young anglers looking for the next coolest rods, reels at an affordable cost No YouTuber is "making and selling" their own rods and reels. They are shilling for someone.
Weedless Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 This site is has the best info hands down but.......Youtube is great for Knot tying instructions videos for this slow learner!! 2
Super User burrows Posted January 18, 2018 Author Super User Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Weedless said: This site is has the best info hands down but.......Youtube is great for Knot tying instructions videos for this slow learner!! I agree 100% but that's not what the op was about.
Weedless Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 Well personally, I feel like the younger generation is into instant gratification, that is why they have a million of apps that you get always being doing something "entertaining/gratifying" with your phone. That being said, I believe there is a demand to watch fishing via youtube knowing that the youtube clip of their choice will be off catching (the instant "entertaining/gratifying" part) fish. There are ALOT of people that love the idea of fishing (like Wicked Tuna), but actually doing it is another thing. So yes there are alot of advertisers jumping all over these youtube videos that have lots and lots of clicks, but I am not necessarily believing that it is resulting in sales and growing the industry. So I predict that there will always be advertising in these videos but the videographer will be getting paid less and less and resulting in less Fad videographer fisherman. I believe you will always have poplular fishing videos of big catches but i do not believe it is gonna grow the industry. In the end of the day, clicks do not mean purchases and increasing the industry.
Super User Choporoz Posted January 18, 2018 Super User Posted January 18, 2018 what was the question? or rant?
Super User burrows Posted January 20, 2018 Author Super User Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 12:46 PM, J Francho said: I'm still unclear how YouTubers are changing the scene? I mean, I've been fishing a long time, and I just don't get what "scene" they've affected. It's fishing. And I'm not sure who is actually making any kind of REAL money doing it. There's a few top educators, but other than that, free stuff in return for a plug isn't real money, and the bottom is falling out of that market anyway. This is how they are changing the game, they are becoming increasingly more popular than your traditional tournament angler for example Gerald swindle is a tournament angler but probably not as popular as let's say Scott martin who has a ton of subs to his fishing channel who do you think sells more rods or merch or whatever? Who do the kids look up to more? Scott because he puts himself out there he's got more of a personal relationship with his veiwers because when you watch theses fisherman on you tube you began to either hate them or relate to them, they take you threw the experience which leads to more popularity than the regular old Joe tournament guy that has no channel. Now a days you don't even have to fish tournaments to pick up sponsors or get paid to fish you just have to create good content. And I'm talking good content.
Super User slonezp Posted January 20, 2018 Super User Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 2:46 PM, J Francho said: I'm still unclear how YouTubers are changing the scene? I mean, I've been fishing a long time, and I just don't get what "scene" they've affected. It's fishing. And I'm not sure who is actually making any kind of REAL money doing it. There's a few top educators, but other than that, free stuff in return for a plug isn't real money, and the bottom is falling out of that market anyway. Did the "scene" change? A guy I fished against since 2004 qualified for the Elite series this year and never made a video in his life. Had he worried about making videos and not fishing, he wouldn't be where he's at. 1
Super User slonezp Posted January 20, 2018 Super User Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/18/2018 at 8:02 AM, Weedless said: Well personally, I feel like the younger generation is into instant gratification, that is why they have a million of apps that you get always being doing something "entertaining/gratifying" with your phone. That being said, I believe there is a demand to watch fishing via youtube knowing that the youtube clip of their choice will be off catching (the instant "entertaining/gratifying" part) fish. This comment is not directed towards you, you just spawned my thoughts. You know what is gratifying? Watch a Hank Parker episode. He is doing more good for the industry than any youtoober. The younger generation's values have shifted. Too much selfish behavior and not enough selfless behavior. Many/most Youtoobers aren't posting videos to help the sport. They are posting videos to stroke their own egos. Is the Googan squad taking veterans, the handicapped, the less fortunate, fishing? Hank Parker is. Mike D is. A midwest local John Gillespie is. A number of other organizations are. I mentioned something in a thread some time ago about the Googan Squad. I had never seen a video and decided to take a look. What I saw was a kid slamming a bass into the windshield on the bassboat as he leaned back to adjust the GoPro so he could get a nice shot. Not only are their fish handling skills less than par, but so are their editing skills. You want to do something for the sport? Volunteer at your local H.S. if they have a fishing club. Volunteer for one of the many veterans fishing charity's. Volunteer for local events. Kids need this. Last year my father and I recruited volunteers to teach kids from 5-15 how to cast fishing rods. I can't begin to tell you how difficult it is to get people to give up 8 hours out of their precious lives to help a kid that isn't theirs. Do something productive instead of commenting on youtube videos. 5 1
The Maestro Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 The most drastic change I've seen is the sheer amount of information available. Combined with the massive advancements in technology (gps, side/down-imaging, mapping, power poles, spot lock, rods, line, reels, super realistic baits etc.. ), the learning curve has been dramatically reduced from 20-30 years ago. 1
Super User burrows Posted January 20, 2018 Author Super User Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 5:20 PM, slonezp said: This comment is not directed towards you, you just spawned my thoughts. You know what is gratifying? Watch a Hank Parker episode. He is doing more good for the industry than any youtoober. The younger generation's values have shifted. Too much selfish behavior and not enough selfless behavior. Many/most Youtoobers aren't posting videos to help the sport. They are posting videos to stroke their own egos. Is the Googan squad taking veterans, the handicapped, the less fortunate, fishing? Hank Parker is. Mike D is. A midwest local John Gillespie is. A number of other organizations are. I mentioned something in a thread some time ago about the Googan Squad. I had never seen a video and decided to take a look. What I saw was a kid slamming a bass into the windshield on the bassboat as he leaned back to adjust the GoPro so he could get a nice shot. Not only are their fish handling skills less than par, but so are their editing skills. You want to do something for the sport? Volunteer at your local H.S. if they have a fishing club. Volunteer for one of the many veterans fishing charity's. Volunteer for local events. Kids need this. Last year my father and I recruited volunteers to teach kids from 5-15 how to cast fishing rods. I can't begin to tell you how difficult it is to get people to give up 8 hours out of their precious lives to help a kid that isn't theirs. Do something productive instead of commenting on youtube videos. LAWL.
Super User iabass8 Posted January 20, 2018 Super User Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 5:20 PM, slonezp said: This comment is not directed towards you, you just spawned my thoughts. You know what is gratifying? Watch a Hank Parker episode. He is doing more good for the industry than any youtoober. The younger generation's values have shifted. Too much selfish behavior and not enough selfless behavior. Many/most Youtoobers aren't posting videos to help the sport. They are posting videos to stroke their own egos. Is the Googan squad taking veterans, the handicapped, the less fortunate, fishing? Hank Parker is. Mike D is. A midwest local John Gillespie is. A number of other organizations are. I mentioned something in a thread some time ago about the Googan Squad. I had never seen a video and decided to take a look. What I saw was a kid slamming a bass into the windshield on the bassboat as he leaned back to adjust the GoPro so he could get a nice shot. Not only are their fish handling skills less than par, but so are their editing skills. You want to do something for the sport? Volunteer at your local H.S. if they have a fishing club. Volunteer for one of the many veterans fishing charity's. Volunteer for local events. Kids need this. Last year my father and I recruited volunteers to teach kids from 5-15 how to cast fishing rods. I can't begin to tell you how difficult it is to get people to give up 8 hours out of their precious lives to help a kid that isn't theirs. Do something productive instead of commenting on youtube videos. You're better than these topics. You're getting soft in your old age. 3
Hawkeye21 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 I wonder if the older generation of fishermen ranted about the fishing shows on those new, fancy color TVs like people are ranting about people on YouTube. It's not that much different. 1 1
Super User slonezp Posted January 20, 2018 Super User Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Burro said: LAWL. Had to google that 1
ClackerBuzz Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 deja vu... that der automobile is going to be the end society--no more taking time to stop and talk to ur neighbor on horseback or wagon....just zooming by each other too fast to say hello! that der radio is going to end civilization. no more talking face to face for news or going to sporting events. just alone in ur house listing to a box! that der telephone contraption is going to be the end of us. why would two people sit in a room alone talking over a electronic line when they only live 10 blocks away! that der television set is witchcraft. families sitting home alone watching 12" tall people have fun instead of getting together for games, dances, picnics etc. they'll just watch picnics on the box instead of having one! that der computer is the official end of us. why would you electronically send mail when the pony express has been doing a great job for hundreds of years... 2 2
OCdockskipper Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 11:02 AM, Brock_v said: ...catch a 9 pounder 3 days in row like mikey ballz... If a guy has to use a sophomoric pseudonym with a couple of Z's tacked on to the end of it, I most likely am not in his target demographic. 2
Fishing Cowgirl Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 5:20 PM, slonezp said: This comment is not directed towards you, you just spawned my thoughts. You know what is gratifying? Watch a Hank Parker episode. He is doing more good for the industry than any youtoober. The younger generation's values have shifted. Too much selfish behavior and not enough selfless behavior. Many/most Youtoobers aren't posting videos to help the sport. They are posting videos to stroke their own egos. Is the Googan squad taking veterans, the handicapped, the less fortunate, fishing? Hank Parker is. Mike D is. A midwest local John Gillespie is. A number of other organizations are. I mentioned something in a thread some time ago about the Googan Squad. I had never seen a video and decided to take a look. What I saw was a kid slamming a bass into the windshield on the bassboat as he leaned back to adjust the GoPro so he could get a nice shot. Not only are their fish handling skills less than par, but so are their editing skills. You want to do something for the sport? Volunteer at your local H.S. if they have a fishing club. Volunteer for one of the many veterans fishing charity's. Volunteer for local events. Kids need this. Last year my father and I recruited volunteers to teach kids from 5-15 how to cast fishing rods. I can't begin to tell you how difficult it is to get people to give up 8 hours out of their precious lives to help a kid that isn't theirs. Do something productive instead of commenting on youtube videos. I agree. My husband and I both captain for a High School Fishing Club. None are our own kids but all the kids treat us like we are extra parents with a boat. It is gratifying to take young freshmen anglers out. We teach the boating safety, ethics, courtesy about respecting other fisherman’s space, which direction are they going-don’t cut them off, ask permission to go around, how to back up a trailer, ramp etiquette, how to load the boat, run the trolling motor and in case of emergency to even get back to the ramp. Then we get into hook sets, baits, reading the maps, bait choice. We bring in speakers from Fish and Game, Elite fisherman like Bobby Lane, other pros, business men. They compete for scholarships and we were able to take a team to the World Finals High School Fishing championship. We’ve done live well tests with the FWC. It is rewarding for not only us but for the kids too. 6
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