Hi-Vis braid

[NHBull]

Most of my set-up are braid to leader and about 1/2 a dozen need new line.

I am going to try a few Hi-Vis set up some for spinning and a few BC.

I have read a lot of threads, but can't get a feel for those that did it and want back.

I will likely be going 832.

Thanks for any input

Al

[Turkey sandwich]

My casting rods are typically green 832 and my spinning rods are spooled yellow PP Super Slick.  I have no idea how the color on the high vis 832 holds, but PP tends to be OK, but not great.  

 

Ultimately, I really, really like high vis line because so much of my fishing is in current.  I love being able to watch my drift, mend my line, follow my swing, and detect finicky hits on Ned rigs, Senkos, etc.  Basically, it allows me to treat my spinning gear like my 4wt fly rod.  I tend to keep my leaders under 7', so that way I don't have to worry about knot problems on my reel, and I've had very few problems with leader knots in my guides.  For finesse tackle, so long as you like braid, I see absolutely no negatives.

[tander]

I don't use leaders on my bait casters but I love regular Power Pro on my spinning. I use the yellow hi vis and it works great. Yes it will fade but I think all do. When that happens, I pull all of it off and reverse it on the spool.

[KDW96]

Ive been using hi-vis for many years. Mainly, because i can see my line better,(aging eyes). But also as Turkey sandwich talked about in his reply.

 

This past summer ive used hivis yellow(PP) and hivis (GLISS) pink. I didnt notice and difference in catching fish(that im aware of), but that has always been a debatable topic

 

I just have more confidence in it, because i can see it for movement,in the waters i fish. 

 

On cloudy days i use the bright pink gliss, with a 2-6ft leader of seaguar leader material, on my finess spinning rods. My baitcasters, are all yellow, with or with out seaguar leader material.

 

Good luck in your search:)

 

[Fishin' Fool]

I had one spinning set rod set up with the hi-vis yellow SX1 with a fluoro leader. It was okay but I'm not much of a line watcher so I don't see the point. I'm changing that line out for next season. I just went with the green 832.

[nascar2428]

I have both, power pro 8 and suffix 832 hi vis on my spinning setups. Power pro fades quicker than suffix, and suffix will sink a little more than power pro. I fish plastic stick baits on these setups, both help to detect strikes and line motion. Can't go wrong with either one IMO.

[Todd2]

A lot of people seem to like 832 so you probably can't go wrong. One thing I do is use a green marker on high viz braid, not to camo for the fish so much because I don't think they care. But it helps me with depth control. I mark up 10 feet of line with green. Really has helped me this Fall vertically jigging for deep Crappie. Obviously when casting with line at an angle it's not exactly at 10 but seems to help with suspended fish and to a point when your pulling it off drops.

[zeth]

never had any issues with 832 yellow or fluorescent other than a few break offs while casting (likely due to my fault). Using J braid now and love it. Hi Viz on things like drop shot shakey etc and green on the moving baits. I don’t think line color makes a difference to the fish at all and I fish clear waters. I always watch the line if I can and catch more because I am able to see the line move when I don’t feel the bite. 

[bugbee77]

I've been using the 832 in ghost for a while and love it. It's been on my spinning rod since March and has barely faded even after using it in dirty water. I got the 15lb from TW and it hasn't broken or frayed at all. 

[Jdudley13]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but I’d like to better understand how this works. If you use a red line is it technically less visible a few feet down than a yellow because red is one of the first colors lost with depth? 

[Turkey sandwich]

56 minutes ago, Jdudley13 said:

Maybe this is a dumb question, but I’d like to better understand how this works. If you use a red line is it technically less visible a few feet down than a yellow because red is one of the first colors lost with depth? 

 

If you wanted to split hairs, yes, it likely would be.  I don't really think it matters much, and my position seems to become more reinforced the more I get into fly fishing and other guys that like the long rod like @Further North can certainly chime in.  Here's why...

 

When I think of maintaining accurate, super finesse, super natural presentations, the first things that come to mind are fishing nymphs and dry flies on my trout gear.  It's hard to argue anything being more finesse than throwing a size 16-22 nymph, a tiny BWO, or a dry dropper.  Fishing just about all of those revolves around super bright, visible line tapered down to super light leaders and tippets range from 7-14' depending upon a ton of factors, but least of which tends to be visibility.   It has much, much more to do with getting a good drift in current.  Still, that line (and at times indicators or bright indicator sections of leader) is my primary strike detector.  If my line is bright orange, yellow, neon green, etc and used in comparably shallow creeks and rivers for super spooky trout that hunt almost entirely on visual cues, I'm not concerned at all with less discriminate bass, typically in more stained water.  The one note that I think applies to fishing both bass and trout, is that I don't want to spook them by throwing the line over them and think it's very important to fish the high percentage areas closest to you first, an then work your way out.  

 

The blatant exception to the Uber-finesse of fly fishing comes in streamer fishing.  Generally, to fish them you'll use a darker sinking line, but much heavier leaders that are only 2-6' long.  I think most streamer fishing more directly relates to what we perceive as "finesse" bass fishing.   So, if someone can present a weighted size 4 Woolly Bugger or Clouser (often on short leaders and bright fluorescent line floating line in shallower rivers and streams) and mimic a lot of the same prey we're looking to imitate with a drop shot, Ned rig, etc, I'm not over concerned with the underwater visibility of the braid when a 5-7' leader can be used.  

 

Sorry if that was a long winded answer, but that's the way I wrap my head around that subject.  I hope this helps you better kind of visualize fishing with high viz.

 

[Further North]

@Turkey sandwich You nailed that, from my perspective.

 

...the more I fish streamers (which is probably 80% of my fly fishing, or more) the less I'm concered about fish seeing my line.

 

I fish a lot of pike and musky with flies and I don't believe they care even a little bit.

 

@NHBull My perspective on your original question:  I am a braid to leader guy, for almost all my rigs (might be a habit stolen from my fly-fishing where the lines are way thicker than gear lines and are often florescent), and one place I specifically use High-vis braid (I like the bright green/yellow Suffix 832 in 30#) is on my finesse rigs.

 

There's usually 6' - 7' of flouro leader on those rigs, and I watch that high-vis braid like a hungry hawk on the drop...if it does anything odd...hookset.  Most often not a cross-their-eyes hook-set (I don't want to yank the offering out of the strike zone), but enough to know if there's a fish on (Sometimes it's enough to just stop the drop and feel what's there).

 

Two of my top 5 smallies came in situations just like that...one under a swim platform, one behind a great big hunk of rock structure...couldn't see the take, but the line moved...

[Yumeya]

Pline TCB 8 yellow just with they had it in 10lb, Fins 40g in 5lb is excellent.

Sufix is decent.

 

 

[BigAngus752]

This is 40lb Sufix 832 that I fished all summer and fall in our terrible, stained, silt-laden Illinois waters.  Although the pic is blurry you can see that it hasn't changed colors or held onto any of the dirt/silt at all.  I suspect I'll get numerous seasons out of it.  

[Further North]

2 hours ago, BigAngus752 said:

This is 40lb Sufix 832 that I fished all summer and fall in our terrible, stained, silt-laden Illinois waters.  Although the pic is blurry you can see that it hasn't changed colors or held onto any of the dirt/silt at all.  I suspect I'll get numerous seasons out of it.  

One of mine has three seasons on it, the other has two.  Not quite as bright as the photo, but close.

[Logic04]

quick question; can fish see hi-vis braid

[Yumeya]

2 hours ago, Logic04 said:

quick question; can fish see hi-vis braid

Your gonna have to ask them next time you see one...

 

I use a Fluorocarbon leader.

[craww]

Never been much for the brighter braids as mentally I feel like at some point I'll need to tie direct vs the leader, but can say use of line and lure will help the color hold a great deal.

[Further North]

22 hours ago, craww said:

Never been much for the brighter braids as mentally I feel like at some point I'll need to tie direct vs the leader, but can say use of line and lure will help the color hold a great deal.

Curious, why would you feel the need to tie direct?

[Scott F]

3 hours ago, Logic04 said:

quick question; can fish see hi-vis braid

A better question is, if they can see hi-vis line, are they intelligent enough to figure out what it is?

[Further North]

3 minutes ago, Scott F said:

A better question is, if they can see hi-vis line, are they intelligent enough to figure out what it is?

...can a blue man sing the whites?

[craww]

1 hour ago, Further North said:

Curious, why would you feel the need to the direct?

Should I be out and break a leader off and not have replacement material, or the rare occasion I'm on foot and want to help ensure snagged lures arent lost. Alot easier to straighten and replace a hook with 40lb braid than lose a discontinued or expensive bait.

 

[Further North]

20 hours ago, craww said:

Should I be out and break a leader off and not have replacement material, or the rare occasion I'm on foot and want to help ensure snagged lures arent lost. Alot easier to straighten and replace a hook with 40lb braid than lose a discontinued or expensive bait.

 

I knew there'd be good reasons, thanks!