Super User Cgolf Posted December 17, 2017 Super User Posted December 17, 2017 A while back I posted on here that I was going to stab the bait monkey in the back and analyze all of my TW purchases;) What I found was very interesting. I have purchased soft plastics the most and it really isn't close. I have also tried 70% of the soft plastics I have purchased. The second most I have purchased is Crankbaits, but I have only used 30% of them. This intrigued me, because I use cranks a lot, especially when I fish lakes. At first I thought it was because I have bought more colors of cranks vs soft plastics, but looking at the list I have probably bought a wider variety of colors in soft plastics. Here is what I have figured out. With soft plastics that last anywhere from 1 to 12 fish, I will generally try another color to see how the fish react to the change before settling on the color of the day. For example last year a copperfield ugly otter got the most bites, but the florida five o ugly otter got fewer but more viscous hits and bigger fish. When it comes to cranks this year I used 2 1/2 ounce RES and 1 1/4 ounce RES not trying out all the different colors I have bought to see if they work better, or heck if a different brand works better. This has been a consistent theme with my crankbait fishing over the years. So it seems to come down to how often I am forced to change lures as to trying new colors when one works. My dilemma is do I start limiting the colors I buy or even say standard RES vs RES 2 tap (never tied this one on even though I really wanted to try them) due to how I fish crankbaits? Or do I start switching out crankbait colors or styles every 5 or 6 fish to see if I am missing out on anything? Quote
Super User scaleface Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 I do the same thing with all types of lures . A bait gets hot , I keep tying it on . This year I had a buzzbait that was just killing it until one day the line snapped on a cast . Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 Limit your color selection but maintain different sizes and depths. I have chartreuse cranks, translucent shad patterns, a bluegill color, and a couple craw colors. Basically 5 different colors of Spro cranks in all their styles. Almost always use the translucent shad patterns 1 Quote
Super User Angry John Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 I am going this direction. I am looking to get one shad solid color, one clear like clear water minnow, and a flash in silver like American shad. I think color matters the least and depth action and sound or silent being more inportant. I try to make things simple. I try and get the clear silent and one of the other two colors with rattle. 1 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 This is one of the reasons that I keep a log on a spreadsheet. Some of my crankbaits have caught hundreds of fish, while others have caught less than 10. My best colors are shad, craw, firetiger, and chrome. 1 Quote
Super User Cgolf Posted December 18, 2017 Author Super User Posted December 18, 2017 11 hours ago, Montanaro said: Limit your color selection but maintain different sizes and depths. I have chartreuse cranks, translucent shad patterns, a bluegill color, and a couple craw colors. Basically 5 different colors of Spro cranks in all their styles. Almost always use the translucent shad patterns Moving forward I am going to do this, but I have a few cranks to lose lol. It is amazing though how readily I change plastic colors, but I can think of a couple of vacations that I just left the same crank tied on because it produced without thinking would something else work better. Quote
DINK WHISPERER Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 I use to be that guy that had to have every color available. Now I limit cranks to pretty much some kind of shad pattern for clear water and something with chartreuse for stained water. I also get both colors in silent and rattling versions. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 First you need to use acronyms I can relate to; 2 1/2 oz and 1 1/4 oz RES crankbaits for example? Tom Quote
Chance_Taker4 Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, WRB said: First you need to use acronyms I can relate to; 2 1/2 oz and 1 1/4 oz RES crankbaits for example? Tom 2.5 oz and 1.25 oz Red Eye Shad. I use a green worm and a shad crankbait, white spinnerbait and black buzzbait. I keep it that simple. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 OK, RES means Red Eye Shad, got that. I believe 2 1/2oz is 2 each 1/2 oz or 2 1/2" and maybe 1 each 3" or 3/4oz, I don't see a 1 1/2" or 1/4 oz on TW? The OP is talking about lipless crankbait only and bought a few colors and sizes. It's difficult to make a evaluation on 1 type and brand of crankbait. Tom Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 LOL...yeah, I think it's two each at .5 oz....a two and a half ounce lipless would be for ...IDK...but, something other than black bass Quote
Super User Cgolf Posted December 18, 2017 Author Super User Posted December 18, 2017 18 minutes ago, WRB said: OK, RES means Red Eye Shad, got that. I believe 2 1/2oz is 2 each 1/2 oz or 2 1/2" and maybe 1 each 3" or 3/4oz, I don't see a 1 1/2" or 1/4 oz on TW? The OP is talking about lipless crankbait only and bought a few colors and sizes. It's difficult to make a evaluation on 1 type and brand of crankbait. Tom 2 each of the 1/2 oz and 1 of the 1/4 oz RES. My issue is that I have many colors of the RES, styles, and sizes along with Xcal lipless, Bill Lewis, Rapala lipless, etc that never see the water once I start catching them on a particular bait. Same happens with square bills, deep divers, etc. It is like prying teeth from me to get me to change color or brand once I hook into fish, even though I have the other options in the boat with me. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 Did someone mention RES ? A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 So now that I know what the question is more about color choices then lure choices using hard baits verses soft baits. For me I use a good quality snap to change crankbaits so It's easier to change them. Another factor is I don't put the trolling down and start cranking blind hoping to find active feeding bass. My search tool is my sonar unit so I know how deep the bass are and where they should be located before starting to cast. I select a lure that runs a little deeper then the bass are and select a color I believe represents the prey the bass are targeting and a second lure and color that is different. Examples are Shad colors and crawdad colors, this helps to reduce having too many choices. I fish the area with darker crawdad colors in low light and Shad colors in bright light to start with. If I catch bass no reason to change. If the first color doesn't work, then try the other color in the same area to determine if that works. If I know bass are in the area, then it's soft plastics or jigs fish in the same area before moving on. My bait monkey issue is never buy 1 crankbait in 1 color, always buy 2 to start with. This practice will double your inventory quickly of lures you use and don't use. Tom 1 Quote
riverbasser Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, WRB said: I use a good quality snap to change crankbaits not to hijack but I've always been leery of snaps, which brand do you use? Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 When I fish lakes with just largemouth I will use a dark or light color crank, most of the time it doesn't matter. When it comes to smallmouth, that is a different story, and before going to a different style of crank or a different lure altogether I'll often just go to a different pattern first. When the water is clear in my area a chrome color rattle trap will do well, but with smallmouth I have had many days when a chrome/blue back wouldn't get as much as a follow and then we'd switch to chrome/black back and have 7 fish in 10 casts. A lot of what I use depends on conditions, if water temps, time of year, baitfish activity, etc. merit the use of a crankbait then i'll use a type of bait I think will work and from there I'll switch color or size, or both before going to something different. Square bills are funny, I was out back in September and I was fishing with a KVD 1.5 in chartreuse/black back and wasn't doing well and it looked to be perfect for square bills. So I went with a 6th Sense 50X square bill in the same color and the first cast with it yielded a 4lb 7oz largemouth followed by a 3lb 3oz smallmouth 3 casts later and I ended up catching 11 fish on that bait over the next 1.5 hours. I think it helps to change up hard bait colors and styles as well as size, sometimes you don't need to but I have had good days on baits that didn't seem to be working but a simple switch of patterns made all the difference. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 18, 2017 Super User Posted December 18, 2017 4 hours ago, riverbasser said: not to hijack but I've always been leery of snaps, which brand do you use? Berkeley Cross Link size 3, the last 2 years Owner Hyper weld 33 lb Quick snaps. Both are very strong, Owners are shorter but $, good snap. my go to lipless now is Yo- Zuri 3DB 1/2 oz prism shad silver and gold w/black back the last few years, everything eats it. Tom 1 Quote
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