Braid backing

[GoneFishingLTN]

What is the best braid for backing on baitcasters? And why do some people spend the money on suffix braid backing I was looking and it’s 320 for a 3500yard spool? 

[CroakHunter]

Never heard of people using braid backing. I use cheap mono for backing under my braid

[Darren.]

Never used braid for backing, typically cheap mono...

I do/have spooled straight braid with no backing....

[bueshy]

Link for this suffix braid backing?

 

Braid can slip on a spool with no backing, thats why most use mono as backing.

[Owen_007]

I use a piece of electrical tape and I've never had it slip

[DSTN]

I tie whatever backing I use to the holes in the spool and have never had slippage problems with any line type. Have to watch the knot or it can cause the line to bunch up or appear to bunch up on one side. 

 

Have yet to try out the braid as backing but watched an Aaron Martens video where he talks about it.  He suggested using cheap braid, you could probably just use old braid you took off another reel. 

[fishwizzard]

I use braid for backing on most of my baitcasting reels.  I use floro as main line but only want a cast and a half on there at one time.  Braid keeps the spool weight down and also acts as "emergency" mainline.  I use 30lb as backer so most reels have at least 30-50y on there and unlike mono, braid will still be fishable after sitting on a spool for a year or more.  

[j bab]

2 hours ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

What is the best braid for backing on baitcasters?

the cheapest available.

 

2 hours ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

why do some people spend the money on suffix braid backing

I don't think any braid is made specifically for backing

[J Francho]

2 minutes ago, j bab said:

I don't think any braid is made specifically for backing

Actually, there is backing made from super line for fly reels and centerpins.  It's lighter than mono.

[Dens228]

2 hours ago, Owen_007 said:

I use a piece of electrical tape and I've never had it slip

This, except I use plumbers tape.  Then nothing on the reel but the braid.

[LxVE Bassin]

I exclusively use braid for backing on all casting reels where flouro is the main line. I do it to keep myself from waistline too much flouro.

[NHBull]

I use old braid for backing.....I just like the way it performs and have never had any digging in.  On a side note, if I am off the coast and getting spooled, I do like to see the old color running off and know I still got line 4x stronger and any mono I would have used

[JustJames]

Yup I use the cheapest I can find, as of now it is old white Dacron line from my old saltwater reel, I think either 60-80lbs.

[fishballer06]

4 hours ago, CroakHunter said:

Never heard of people using braid backing. I use cheap mono for backing under my braid

Aaron Martens uses braid backing on some of his reels because braid is lighter than mono.

[MickD]

The last time I checked, braid was the same density as mono.  If it's a smaller diameter, and packs more closely than larger mono, you might have more weight on the spool than with mono.  It also can absorb water (weight) more than mono.  So I'm not so sure that it will be lighter than mono.  I sure can see the logic of using it when you want a lot of line on the spool.

[Team9nine]

Time to check again, Mick  unless you're just being generous with rounding. And this braid absorbing water thing that many others have also previously posted is not true. Spectra and Dyneema water absorption is practically nil. What is actually happening is water getting trapped or adhering to the tiny spaces in the weave, fibers or coating.

[MickD]

3 hours ago, Team9nine said:

Time to check again, Mick  unless you're just being generous with rounding. And this braid absorbing water thing that many others have also previously posted is not true. Spectra and Dyneema water absorption is practically nil. What is actually happening is water getting trapped or adhering to the tiny spaces in the weave, fibers or coating.

Regardless of whether the water is absorbed or adhering to tiny spaces in the weave, it is still weight, which is added to the weight of the the line itself, and making filled spool heavier.  Making braid less advantageous because it is "lighter than mono."  I am interested in your data that states that the density of braid and mono are different, or I should say, significantly different.  Could be rounding, but if it is rounding, the difference is very slight.  But I'm open to being corrected.  

[Deleted account]

14 hours ago, fishballer06 said:

Aaron Martens uses braid backing on some of his reels because braid is lighter than mono.

No, he uses it because he has OCD.

[NHBull]

I don't see how a straight up question get caught in the weeds.

Most use backing.

Most use mono to save money.

Others don't......like me

Life's a choice.

 

[Team9nine]

10 hours ago, MickD said:

Regardless of whether the water is absorbed or adhering to tiny spaces in the weave, it is still weight, which is added to the weight of the the line itself, and making filled spool heavier.  Making braid less advantageous because it is "lighter than mono."  I am interested in your data that states that the density of braid and mono are different, or I should say, significantly different.  Could be rounding, but if it is rounding, the difference is very slight.  But I'm open to being corrected.  

 

You can go to most any materials website, or in some cases the parent company website and find the density data. Can also straight Google the answers. UHMWPE, trade named Spectra or Dyneema for most all fishing lines is around 0.95 gm/cm3, whereas most nylons (PA) are around 1.14. Water is generally considered 1.0. Fluorocarbon (PVDF) is around 1.78. Both mono/nylon and braid will float because of water surface tension, but push a piece of the nylon down and it will continue sinking. Do the same with most braids and they float right back up to the top.

 

[MickD]

I stand corrected, the difference between mono and braid fibers being greater than I remembered.  Significant to casting performance?  I doubt it,   but if one thinks it's better, it's better.

[Scarborough817]

i use braid backing on some reels, mainly the ones with fluro because i dont want to put a whole spool of fluro on. the brand doesn't matter, if i were to buy braid specifically for this is would likely be 30-40lb of whatever the cheapest braid was. i have never had a problem with braid slipping when used as backing. i have however had issues with straight braid slipping on some spools. what comes to mind is just grabbing a 1000 yard spool of kast king braid its like $30

[thinkingredneck]

Electrical tape and straight braid.  I don't like any extra knots.  I figure I spend $60 to $100 per year on line.  I can usually catch Powerpro on sale in the fall.

[Boomstick]

I have the Daiwa Tatula SV and I spool the braid straight on, nice thing about that reel is it doesn't take an excessive amount of line and doesn't need any backing or electrical tape. Although I have used mono backing before when I had a spool that didn't quite have enough braid, and still had enough braid on it.

[Junger]

On 12/13/2017 at 9:32 AM, Scrapiron said:

I typically use braid with no backing- I use the loop method to avoid a piece of tape. This video can explain it better than me:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QirU7zw6Bw

I use the same method for braid to spool, half-hitches.  I do 4 on each side of the knot, for a total of 8 half-hitches. Some people say it will still slip, but I haven't had any issues with it.  I use it on my frog rod, and I've gotten snagged on cover before where I pulled a kayak to the snag.