Chowderhead Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Just read a post from Gary Dobyns that he is moving his primary operations from California to Texas. Here is a snippet: Quote THX guys!! Yes, Dobyns Rods will be moving to Sulphur Springs TX in 2018. Keeping it simple and politically correct…..I’m sick of CA taxes, rules, regulations, and politicians. Honestly, we live in the countryside here. We have excellent fishing, hunting, and great weather, but still fall under CA’s thumb. We have started a warehouse, we’ve bought a house, and some property too. I’m lucky enough to have fished in TX a bit and I have many friends already there too. It’s always tough to move from “home” but it’ll be a great move for us. We’re lucky to be bringing several key employees and my daughter Miranda as well. Richard will remain in CA but I’m hoping he’ll get the itch to move in the near future. He does have a walnut orchard that’s quite an investment that’s a factor too. 3 Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 2, 2017 Super User Posted December 2, 2017 All the smart anglers moving to Texas ? 2 Quote
Chris_97TJ Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Cause Texas is where it’s at!! This is cool, looking forward to getting to drop into the shop since they’ll be so close! 1 Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted December 2, 2017 Super User Posted December 2, 2017 I can relate to all of that... love where I am and isolated from a lot of the crazy CA things up here in the mountains, but the taxes and other things do start wearing on you. Best wishes to them with the move and continued success. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 3, 2017 Super User Posted December 3, 2017 I understand the move for business reasons and the crazy California unfriendly taxes and political leadership. Gary lives in Yuba City near Marysville, beautiful area with Seirras to the east, Delta to the west and surrounded by fishing and hunting opertunities. Good luck Gary. Tom Quote
bholtzinger14 Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 That is about 2.5 hours from me. Any benefits to living close? Quote
DINK WHISPERER Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 Dang it, why not FL ?. I'm sure they will do great wherever they go. Quote
Super User burrows Posted December 3, 2017 Super User Posted December 3, 2017 California is a great place to live it's a beautiful place, but the political landscape and policies can be unpleasant for some, enuf to drive some people away. Quote
Junger Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Burro said: California is a great place to live it's a beautiful place, but the political landscape and policies can be unpleasant for some, enuf to drive some people away. Understandable, but I'd also consider that many of the regulations are meant to keep CA such a beautiful place. I'd move to either one of those states over the DC metro area if i had my choice (wife won't let me!) 1 Quote
Chowderhead Posted December 3, 2017 Author Posted December 3, 2017 Setting aside the reasons for the move, it will be interesting to see how this helps spread the brand to other parts of the Country. Quote
HookRz Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 Great! With all the tax money they will save when do we see the price drop on the rods? 1 5 Quote
Super User Oregon Native Posted December 3, 2017 Super User Posted December 3, 2017 Good luck to Gary and family Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted December 4, 2017 Super User Posted December 4, 2017 I for one, wish Gary and his family well. That fact Sulpher Springs is about, what, 25 minutes from Lake Fork might have twisted his arm. Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 This past summer i had a a Champion spinning rod snap in half while casting a 5" senko. clearly a defect so I paid the money to ship it to them (they won't give a free replacement rod unless the defect is inspected). well you may have guessed it...they ruled it was rules my fault. of course i asked how and the woman replied "Well the rod IS 4 years old". my reply... "A small blip on the radar for a LIFETIME guarantee". i told her they were losing a customer for life if they wouldn't back their product. after the worse customer service experience I had to pay $70 for a replacement rod. that was the last Dobyns rod I'll ever purchase...and I could care less if they move to Texas, China or Timbuktu. YMMV Quote
CroakHunter Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 38 minutes ago, ClackerBuzz said: This past summer i had a a Champion spinning rod snap in half while casting a 5" senko. clearly a defect so I paid the money to ship it to them (they won't give a free replacement rod unless the defect is inspected). well you may have guessed it...they ruled it was rules my fault. of course i asked how and the woman replied "Well the rod IS 4 years old". my reply... "A small blip on the radar for a LIFETIME guarantee". i told her they were losing a customer for life if they wouldn't back their product. after the worse customer service experience I had to pay $70 for a replacement rod. that was the last Dobyns rod I'll ever purchase...and I could care less if they move to Texas, China or Timbuktu. YMMV I think that's why they are moving to texas, lower taxes and a central shipping location, to save money from the one customer that wanted a free rod after 4 years of use and abuse. And won't be returning lol 2 1 3 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted December 14, 2017 Super User Posted December 14, 2017 On 12/3/2017 at 10:54 AM, Junger said: Understandable, but I'd also consider that many of the regulations are meant to keep CA such a beautiful place. I'd move to either one of those states over the DC metro area if i had my choice (wife won't let me!) Some of them are, but some of them don't make sense to be in California unless your business is hard tied to being in California, and manufacturing rods or anything else is not. Personally, I'd move to Oregon because I wouldn't mind living there 1 Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 11 hours ago, CroakHunter said: to save money from the one customer that wanted a free rod after 4 years of use and abuse. And won't be returning lol wow you twisted my story like it's ur profession. 'free rod'? if wanting someone to back their product/warranty makes me a jerk then so be it. 'use and abuse'? the rod was literally flawless and even had a beautiful longer cork handle built by Mike@DVT. believe me when I say I'm not offended by the laughter of a man who hasn't had it happen to him....yet Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted December 14, 2017 Super User Posted December 14, 2017 33 minutes ago, ClackerBuzz said: wow you twisted my story like it's ur profession. 'free rod'? if wanting someone to back their product/warranty makes me a jerk then so be it. 'use and abuse'? the rod was literally flawless and even had a beautiful longer cork handle built by Mike@DVT. believe me when I say I'm not offended by the laughter of a man who hasn't had it happen to him....yet Unless a rod had been sitting in a dark room unused for 4 years, a 4 year old break isnt a defect. 2 Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted December 14, 2017 Super User Posted December 14, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 9:31 AM, Catt said: All the smart anglers moving to Texas ? Didn't the Googan Squad relocate there? 3 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted December 14, 2017 Super User Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, ClackerBuzz said: wow you twisted my story like it's ur profession. 'free rod'? if wanting someone to back their product/warranty makes me a jerk then so be it. 'use and abuse'? the rod was literally flawless and even had a beautiful longer cork handle built by Mike@DVT. believe me when I say I'm not offended by the laughter of a man who hasn't had it happen to him....yet Wait, so let me get this straight, you owned the rod for 4 years but never used it until the day you broke it? Or you used it for 4 years? 1 Quote
Chris_97TJ Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 32 minutes ago, NYWayfarer said: Didn't the Googan Squad relocate there? @Catt didn't say every angler moving to Texas was smart.....just that all the smart anglers were moving here......semantics 1 Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 3 hours ago, iabass8 said: Unless a rod had been sitting in a dark room unused for 4 years, a 4 year old break isnt a defect. 2 hours ago, Boomstick said: Wait, so let me get this straight, you owned the rod for 4 years but never used it until the day you broke it? Or you used it for 4 years? 1 Don't feed the trolls. 2 Dobyns is the greatest company on Earth. 3 Goodnight Irene. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 14, 2017 Super User Posted December 14, 2017 Gary Dobyns is a very generous man and takes pride in his company and customer service. To bash a companies reputation because you modified the rod, voiding any warranty, broke it after 4 years and expecting a free replacement is beyond reason. It sounds like you did get a new rod for $70. How do you know the rod had a factory defect and you didn't damage the rod after 4 years of use? I know of no rod company that would replace a 4 year old modified rod free. Tom 6 Quote
Stephen B Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 I am curious as to how manufacturers can tell whether it was the fault of an owner or a defect. Obviously, a rod is likely to break in the first couple of trips with a defect. But, people say that you can tell by how it breaks. Can someone provide more detailed information? Quote
long island basser Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, Stephen B said: I am curious as to how manufacturers can tell whether it was the fault of an owner or a defect. Obviously, a rod is likely to break in the first couple of trips with a defect. But, people say that you can tell by how it breaks. Can someone provide more detailed information? Pitching a jig into a lay down this past September using my 14 month old DX 705C I had a hit, set the hook, fish pulled, I pulled back and snapped the rod right in the middle. One clean break, why I don’t know. Wrote a letter explaining what took place with payment of 2 checks totaling $100. $80 for new rod, $20 for shipping. Hopeing I might get lucky and get my $80 ck back. No dice. Love the rod and I’m not mad, just wondering also what is defect or operator error. Quote
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