“Best” all- purpose line? (P-line cxx?)

[Joshua Vandamm]

My current standard (spinning and baitcaster) is light braid (15-20 lb 832) with a 5-8 ft leader. 

But it’s not great for certain things where you want some stretch. 

Ive heard great things about CXX. Sounds like could be a good option. Strong and heck, abrasion resistant, low vis, maybe just enough stretch for cranking....?

im thinking 6LB for spinning and 10 for casting (even for heavy/expensive lures(?)). 

 

Thougjts? Thanks!

[CroakHunter]

6 and 12 is what I'd do. I crank and throw jerkbaits with 10. spinners, topwater, and chatterbait 15. Pitch, deep worms, and jigs with 17. Plan to have an a-rig/swimbait setup next spring and will have 20Lb spooled

[WRB]

P-Line CXX is a large diameter copolymer line with high memory, if that is your definition of a all purpose line then you will like it.

I stopped using CXX years ago due to it's high memory in cold weather and water absorbing cuases the line to change coloration. Berkley Big Game has the same performance with less memory at 1/2 the cost, not availble under 10 lb test.

I use Maxima Ultra Green 5 lb and Sunline Armilo Deifer Nyon and Shooter coploy lines.

Tom

[Turkey sandwich]

I've kind of adjusted my fishing around using braid because I like it's handling, strength, and sensitivity benefits and use mono, Hybrid, or FC leaders to match presentation and conditions.  The way I see it, if I want stretch, I can compensate by using a slower loading rod instead of spooling mono/FC/copoly for most presentations and get a great compromise without having to deal with all of the twist and memory issues.  

 

If you are set on using a line similar to CXX, a lot of forum members have had a lot of positive things to say about how Hybrid performs as a main line so long as it's treated regularly with line conditioner.  

 

Specifically, for what presentations and conditions are you wanting more stretch?

[rangerjockey]

CXX is tough stuff but it won't be confused for a great handling line, especially on a spinning reel.

 The Suline defier armilo that was mentioned or even the super natural would be worth a look.

 In the 6lb., I've probably caught as many fish on a ned rig and shaky head on the BPS excel as any.

Not sure who makes it for them buts its good stuff and cheap.

[Sam]

Josh, it really boils down to confidence.

 

The confidence you have in the line you are using.

 

After fishing with a pro last summer, I switched to the 8-pound test Gamma Torque.

 

The pro used a leader but I go straight to the bait, no leader, and have not seen any substantial difference in strike ratios.

 

You will have to experiment with the different lines until you find the ones you like for each technique or bait. Remember, it has to do with the confidence you have in the line.

 

Merry Christmas!

[craww]

Used 6lb on a spinning rig for a while and it performed well. Wouldnt go any higher than that diameter though for bass sized spinning reels.

[J Francho]

8 hours ago, Joshua Vandamm said:

My current standard (spinning and baitcaster) is light braid (15-20 lb 832) with a 5-8 ft leader. 

But it’s not great for certain things where you want some stretch. 

Ive heard great things about CXX. Sounds like could be a good option. Strong and heck, abrasion resistant, low vis, maybe just enough stretch for cranking....?

im thinking 6LB for spinning and 10 for casting (even for heavy/expensive lures(?)). 

 

Thougjts? Thanks!

I don't like CXX for spinning at all.  It is great in 10-15# size for general purpose use.  The 10# is closer to 12#, so for cranking it's pretty good stuff.  For spinning, I can find nothing better than 6-8# Seaguar Tatsu.  It's expensive, but lasts.  I have one reel that gets a ton of use that is three seasons old.  I'm gonna have to strip it, and re-spool this winter only because it's getting down to a third of it's capacity.  As always, KVD L&L after every trip makes any type of line better.

[Mike L]

To me the best "all around" line is Yo Zuri Hybrid. 

That stuff is tough, strong and much more manageable than you would think especially with a little Line & Lure.  

 

its has a larger diameter than other lines of the same advertised strength but I would still condider it a viable option also. 

 

 

Mike

 

 

[moguy1973]

I prefer the P-line CX Premium for an all around line.  I use CXX on one of my casting rods, and I only have that because they were out of the CX Premium at the time I bought it.  CXX can be really stiff and I can see why people wouldn't use it on spinning reels.  I use CX Premium on two of my spinning reels though and it works great.  Still super strong line although it is a lot more manageable on a spinning rig.

 

I used to like Yo-Zuri Hybrid as an all around line but I think it tends to have a pretty bad memory if it's not used for a while.  Line and lure spray helps a little but it still gets pretty springy.

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9 hours ago, Joshua Vandamm said:

Thougjts? Thanks!

You're welcome.

 

https://andemonofilament.com/products/tournament?variant=47456647684

 

 

[Joshua Vandamm]

11 hours ago, Turkey sandwich said:

I've kind of adjusted my fishing around using braid because I like it's handling, strength, and sensitivity benefits and use mono, Hybrid, or FC leaders to match presentation and conditions.  The way I see it, if I want stretch, I can compensate by using a slower loading rod instead of spooling mono/FC/copoly for most presentations and get a great compromise without having to deal with all of the twist and memory issues.  

 

If you are set on using a line similar to CXX, a lot of forum members have had a lot of positive things to say about how Hybrid performs as a main line so long as it's treated regularly with line conditioner.  

 

Specifically, for what presentations and conditions are you wanting more stretch?

Cranking and glidebaits mainly. 

I do the same. And agree. Just don’t have a good medium power parabolic rod. 

3 hours ago, Mike L said:

To me the best "all around" line is Yo Zuri Hybrid. 

That stuff is tough, strong and much more manageable than you would think especially with a little Line & Lure.  

 

its has a larger diameter than other lines of the same advertised strength but I would still condider it a viable option also. 

 

 

Mike

 

 

I tried that in 6LB on my spinning rods. It broke at the knot all the time. Regardless of type of knot. Also seemed stiff for 6lb so I hesitate to upsize it 

3 hours ago, reason said:

You're welcome.

 

https://andemonofilament.com/products/tournament?variant=47456647684

 

 

For mono it looks great...but I’m not a fan of mono

[Joshua Vandamm]

5 hours ago, Sam said:

Josh, it really boils down to confidence.

 

The confidence you have in the line you are using.

 

After fishing with a pro last summer, I switched to the 8-pound test Gamma Torque.

 

The pro used a leader but I go straight to the bait, no leader, and have not seen any substantial difference in strike ratios.

 

You will have to experiment with the different lines until you find the ones you like for each technique or bait. Remember, it has to do with the confidence you have in the line.

 

Merry Christmas!

Hm. Meaning Gamma 8lb for everything? 

11 hours ago, WRB said:

P-Line CXX is a large diameter copolymer line with high memory, if that is your definition of a all purpose line then you will like it.

I stopped using CXX years ago due to it's high memory in cold weather and water absorbing cuases the line to change coloration. Berkley Big Game has the same performance with less memory at 1/2 the cost, not availble under 10 lb test.

I use Maxima Ultra Green 5 lb and Sunline Armilo Deifer Nyon and Shooter coploy lines.

Tom

Yes but it breaks at double the rating. So using 8lb cxx (or premium?) be like 15lb mono.

Ill look into armilo.  Thanks 

[WRB]

P-Line

8 lb test = .012 dia.

10 lb test = .014 dia.

 

Sunline Defier Mono

11 lb test = .012 dia

19 lb test = .014 dia.

 

Line diameter determines how it casts and knot strength. Anglers are gullible and make line decision based labeled lb test in lieu of diameter.

Use whatever line you like.

Tom

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1 hour ago, Joshua Vandamm said:

For mono it looks great...but I’m not a fan of mono

Are you a fan of catching fish without breaking knots and having line issues?

[DINK WHISPERER]

Braid . . . . Leader if you need stretch.

[Master Bait'r]

I use CXX for almost everything but I am just wishing for clear braid so I deal with the stiffness etc.  I honestly never have a problem with the handling tho, as it’s all about rock solid confidence in the line

[Angry John]

I use a lot of yhb and never feel the need to use conditioner.  I do use it on fluorocarbon  but the Hybrid handles just fine in 6, 10, 12, and 15, that i normally use.  The 20 i run on my sb setup has no issues either.  To be fair it is larger than some other lines so shop by diameter not lb test.  I run 6 on my spinning as a main line and as a leader depending on the situation.  My jerk bait and square bill setup gets 10 and i run 12 or 15 for jigs and other heavier techniques. 

[Darren.]

I'm more with those who say use what you are confident with.

 

Pretty well settled for me (as of now) with Yo-Zuri Hybrid in 

6, 8, 10, and Gamma Edge fluoro in 6, 8, 10.

 

Years back I lost confidence in YZH when I had a 10lb leader 

snap in the middle while I was fighting a lunker. There were

no abrasions in the line, it just snapped. Stopped using YZH

in favor of P-Line Floroclear (which I still really like). Eventually

went back to new spools of YZH and have been good since.

 

And I only use these lines for leader tied to braid. Just how I

roll.

[burrows]

22 hours ago, Joshua Vandamm said:

My current standard (spinning and baitcaster) is light braid (15-20 lb 832) with a 5-8 ft leader. 

But it’s not great for certain things where you want some stretch. 

Ive heard great things about CXX. Sounds like could be a good option. Strong and heck, abrasion resistant, low vis, maybe just enough stretch for cranking....?

im thinking 6LB for spinning and 10 for casting (even for heavy/expensive lures(?)). 

 

Thougjts? Thanks!

Cxx is a horible line for spinning reels cx premium is a great all around line for both baitcasters and spinning. 

[rippin-lips]

23 hours ago, Joshua Vandamm said:

I’ve heard great things about CXX. Sounds like could be a good option. Strong and heck, abrasion resistant, low vis, maybe just enough stretch for cranking....?

im thinking 6LB for spinning and 10 for casting (even for heavy/expensive lures(?)). 

 

Thougjts? Thanks!

Cxx runs big so whatever size you but it’ll basically be the next size up. 10=12

It’s nice for leader line but is awful as a main line. It’s got more coils than a slinky. 

[Turkey sandwich]

The upside about moderate action rods is that you don't need to spend a fortune to get a pretty good one, and that you generally don't need the kind of sensitivity in a crank bait rod that you'd want in a jig/T-rig/C-rig? etc rod.

13 hours ago, Joshua Vandamm said:

Cranking and glidebaits mainly. 

I do the same. And agree. Just don’t have a good medium power parabolic rod. 

I tried that in 6LB on my spinning rods. It broke at the knot all the time. Regardless of type of knot. Also seemed stiff for 6lb so I hesitate to upsize it 

For mono it looks great...but I’m not a fan of mono

 

[ChrisD46]

On ‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2017 at 1:34 AM, WRB said:

P-Line CXX is a large diameter copolymer line with high memory, if that is your definition of a all purpose line then you will like it.

I stopped using CXX years ago due to it's high memory in cold weather and water absorbing cuases the line to change coloration. Berkley Big Game has the same performance with less memory at 1/2 the cost, not availble under 10 lb test.

I use Maxima Ultra Green 5 lb and Sunline Armilo Deifer Nyon and Shooter coploy lines.

Tom

+1 ... Watch the C-XX line diameters - Big Game Mono readily available , great value  with very good performance . 

[Bluebasser86]

I use CXX for a lot of my moving baits, and also some jigs and T rigs. It's good line, just make sure to use lighter line than you normally would. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Imo changing line in hopes of countering rod action/power is asking to be disappointed. whats the objective? To keep fish hooked up on treble hooks?