WillyP Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 So, what is the story on line lubricants? Yes, no? What’s the best kind and suggestions on how often to use and how to apply? Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted November 27, 2017 Global Moderator Posted November 27, 2017 To me the "best" is the KVD line & lure. Apply it when spooling and the night before every outing. It makes the line lay down and helps eliminate stiffness and coil's especially on mono and flouro. I also use it on braided lines some don't. Mike 3 Quote
Todd2 Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 Fluorocarbon is supposedly water proof so I don't understand how it soaks in to help but I'll admit I'm not a fluoro guy. Not sure why anyone would use it on braid. If you are using a stiff mono (CXX comes to mind) there might be some benefit. I just use better handling mono and there is no need. Just my opinion, I'm sure others will disagree. Quote
jbmaine Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 36 minutes ago, Mike L said: To me the "best" is the KVD line & lure. Apply it when spooling and the night before every outing. It makes the line lay down and helps eliminate stiffness and coil's especially on mono and flouro. I also use it on braided lines some don't. Mike me too Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 27, 2017 Super User Posted November 27, 2017 KVD Line & Lure Conditioner 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted November 27, 2017 Super User Posted November 27, 2017 It might be unanimous ~ A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted November 27, 2017 Super User Posted November 27, 2017 Yea KVD for me as well. Mostly to tame CXX on my swimbait rod. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 27, 2017 Super User Posted November 27, 2017 KVD L&L bonds to the line. It was initially developed for early, still, poor handling versions of fluoro. Later it was found to benefit all lines, even braid. For braided lines, I've found it helps them retain their color, and resist fading. You don't need to apply it to braid as frequently. For all other lines, it's a must have for me. I apply it to spools after every trip. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 27, 2017 Super User Posted November 27, 2017 I use Tangle Free line conditioner for decades, the 2 oz bottle lasts a very long time. What I dislike about KVD is it takes at least 12 hours to work, so it's a product that doesn't work as you fish, Tangle Free works as needed during the outing. Tom 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted November 27, 2017 Super User Posted November 27, 2017 5 hours ago, WillyP said: So, what is the story on line lubricants? Yes, no? What’s the best kind and suggestions on how often to use and how to apply? Another 'No' vote here...saves time answering your follow up questions, too 1 1 Quote
Pro Logcatcher Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 KVD works for me when I fish monofilament. Quote
Drunkentigerrr Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 I spray on all types of line before winter storing Quote
Chance_Taker4 Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 I swear by Reel Snot. Works just like KVD but quicker. Whatever you do STAY AWAY from Ardent Line Butter. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted December 1, 2017 Posted December 1, 2017 Here is what the makers of KVD say about it: "Line & Lure is a special polymer blend that becomes part of the fishing line it is applied to. Other line treatments you find on the market are primarily silicone oil and solvents. Silicone oil only temporarily coats the line and solvents can damage line. Silicone oil rapidly comes off the line (on your hands and in the water), requiring re-treatment of the line after just a few casts. The special polymers in Line & Lure are hydrophobic (water repelling) and very slippery. It doesn't allow water to draw back on to the reel spool, which eliminates the line drag that a "wet" spool has. It also protects the line from wearing out as quickly as un-treated line because it resists the abrasion that wears line out. It contains no oils or solvents as in Reel Magic that can build up and collect dirt like silicone/oil treatments will." Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 1, 2017 Super User Posted December 1, 2017 Looking like Tangle Free may no longer be availble .Sent Punisher lures a email and waiting for a response. Tom 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 2, 2017 Super User Posted December 2, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 10:28 AM, WRB said: I use Tangle Free line conditioner for decades, the 2 oz bottle lasts a very long time. What I dislike about KVD is it takes at least 12 hours to work, so it's a product that doesn't work as you fish, Tangle Free works as needed during the outing. Tom 2 hours ago, WRB said: Looking like Tangle Free may no longer be availble .Sent Punisher lures a email and waiting for a response. Tom This past summer (on your recommendation) I picked up the nylon & the Braid product. Worked well for me. Hope it's not discontinued. A-Jay Quote
waymont Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Real Magic is a nice product. I use it on all kinds of line. Helps with line management, less memory and less tangles. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted December 5, 2017 Super User Posted December 5, 2017 Anyone know how Reel Magic and KVD LL are different? Thought they were pretty much the same thing... Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 5, 2017 Super User Posted December 5, 2017 13 hours ago, FryDog62 said: Anyone know how Reel Magic and KVD LL are different? Thought they were pretty much the same thing... Not even close..... http://www.lineandlure.com/media/videos/play/4/Reel_Magic_Will_It_Burn Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 5, 2017 Super User Posted December 5, 2017 A good late freind and reel technician told me that Reel Magic was primary cause of most reel repairs he did. Reel Magic turns gear lubricant to gum and mixes with oils to form a gooey substance. To clean it out required soaking over night in a acetone bath, bearings had to be ultra sonic cleaned after a solvent bath. Tom 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 5, 2017 Super User Posted December 5, 2017 Just an FYI, it isn't "Reel Magic." It's REAL Magic. I don't recommend putting it anywhere near your reels. Quote
Turtle135 Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 After seeing the recommendations in this post I picked up a bottle of Kevin VanDam's Line & Lure Conditioner. I use fairly heavy monofilament line for all of my bass fishing. One problem with heavy mono in cold weather is that it can come off the spool of a baitcaster like bailing wire. It is fine in warm weather but the memory in the line in cold weather is problematic. I soaked my line with the KVD spray the night before I went out fishing. I have to say I am impressed. It made that line much more manageable and the coiling was almost completely gone. 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 5, 2017 Super User Posted December 5, 2017 It's a must have up here in winter, fishing for tributary steelhead. 1 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted December 5, 2017 Super User Posted December 5, 2017 16 hours ago, FryDog62 said: Anyone know how Reel Magic and KVD LL are different? Thought they were pretty much the same thing... One is literally flammable, and the other is endorsed by one of the greatest of all time and works like a charm. And to touch on what @WRB said, that makes complete sense now why whenever I broke down my father's Curado's they were completely gum on the inside. Quote
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