Fast chock guides for light braid?

[Andy007]

Going to build a 7 foot ML spinning rod and will use 10# braid max and casting light plastics. I was going to start with a high 16 and work my way down to size 5 runners but maybe smaller could be better?

Was reading a couple posts down (Drop shot blank) and a couple posters mentioned using smaller Fuji K high series guides. Using a 200 series reel how small can I start with?   is size 12 to small?    or can I go down to 10?

 

How about a light rod with 4# braid and Crappie jigs?

 

Thanks and have a happy annual turkey population reduction day!!

[spoonplugger1]

Andy,

It's not as easy as that to answer, the finer and more specialized you go, the more little details make a difference. Some have had good results with braid and even mono with guides down to a 10, but those rods are specifically designed for a certain reel, etc. You are locked in with little room for deviation to change things later.

I don't have a problem building rods for specifc applications, other want a more relaxed setup, you know what you want, we'll help either way as much as we can.

Guide height is more important then guide ring size. For many bass presentations any rod on the rack will out cast your ability to fish effectively, so casting performance isn't, under many circumstances, my first priority.

[.ghoti.]

Go the bottom of this page and click on the GPS logo. It's guide placement software for Fuji guides, and will give you a good starting point for guide sizing and placement.

 

You can also find a nice description of the KR concept on this site.

 

http://anglersresource.net/GuidePlacementSoftware.aspx

[MickD]

I agree with Andy's point about your limiting the use of the rod if you go too small.  Keep in mind that the reduction train is much less important to sensitivity since it is closer to the grip.  I use KLH for all my spin builds now and if I know I'll never go beyond 15 pound test, I'll start with a KLH 16.  For most, in the interest of versatility , I use a 20.  I really don't think most people can tell the difference in sensitivity.  I don't think I could, but have never done a back to back.  For runners I think going below a size 5 is counterproductive.  Doing so complicates the line to line knot and any fuzz on the water can be a problem.  Earlier icing, too.  By using a 16 or 20 with size 5 runners you will be building a very versatile rod that will cast so far with light braid that you will be amazed.  And it will pass most of the easier to tie knots if using leaders below about 15 pound test.  When micros first came in everyone, myself included, went nutso trying to do the smallest guides.  Now we are getting smarter.  And the rods work fine.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Stick with the kh 16/8/5.5m and as small of runners as you can get away with. 

[Andy007]

11 hours ago, spoonplugger1 said:

Guide height is more important then guide ring size. For many bass presentations any rod on the rack will out cast your ability to fish effectively, so casting performance isn't, under many circumstances, my first priority.

I agree with this, most bass lures are heavy enough to cast from any guide setup.  But lighter the lure fine tuning might help? But then I which rods.

 

2 hours ago, MickD said:

I agree with Andy's point about your limiting the use of the rod if you go too small.  Keep in mind that the reduction train is much less important to sensitivity since it is closer to the grip.  I use KLH for all my spin builds now and if I know I'll never go beyond 15 pound test, I'll start with a KLH 16.  For most, in the interest of versatility , I use a 20.  I really don't think most people can tell the difference in sensitivity.  I don't think I could, but have never done a back to back.  For runners I think going below a size 5 is counterproductive.  Doing so complicates the line to line knot and any fuzz on the water can be a problem.  Earlier icing, too.  By using a 16 or 20 with size 5 runners you will be building a very versatile rod that will cast so far with light braid that you will be amazed.  And it will pass most of the easier to tie knots if using leaders below about 15 pound test.  When micros first came in everyone, myself included, went nutso trying to do the smallest guides.  Now we are getting smarter.  And the rods work fine.

My original was a bit confusing, my runners will be size 5 minimum and I should have been clearer that I was just questioning the chocking guides.

 

18 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Stick with the kh 16/8/5.5m and as small of runners as you can get away with. 

That's pretty much what I had in mind with the responses.