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As with any of the hundreds of Senko knock-offs out there you will find the majority of them are poured by a very few manufacturers and just packaged in the retailers bags.  Yamamoto pours its own baits, some custom plastic makers pour Senko type baits but for the most part they are mass produced and packaged.  My point being that many of the commercial knock-offs will all have the same action since they are all poured by the same manufacturers.  For that reason, I wouldn't be concerned all that much about action.  Lot's of fish caught on the Ocho's.  Lots of fish caught on the Stick-O, etc.  If I were buying a knock-off, I would just look at price.    

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The 4" Ochos are a bit lighter and thinner then the 4" senkos and I feel like they have a more aggressive wiggle and slower fall when rigged wacky.  They are bigger/heavier enough over a 3" senko that they fill a niche for me.  The profile of a 4" senko never seemed different enough from the 5" to warrant carrying both, so I prefer the 4" Ocho as it is a good "in-between" size. 

 

 

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I’m a big fan of the Ocho, just not rigged weightless. 95% of the time if I’m throwing a weightless Worm it’s going to be a senko but I have had a few days where the Ocho out preformed the Senko, especially on more heavily pressured lakes where they see and have eaten tons of senkos. I had a day on Guntersville where I couldn’t buy a senko bite but caught 20 on the Ocho but that’s not the norm. I have had the most success with the Ocho on shakey Heads and Texas Rigs and this is where I feel that it shines. 

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I really like the Ocho's. They have a wider, more aggressive wobble on the fall than a senko. The flat sides make rigging a little cleaner. Durability is a wash. The Ocho is a little bit cheaper (.61 a piece to .74 each for a 5" Senko). 

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Ochos are one the few "substitutes" that I really like.  They are bit of a change up to the senko.

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The difference between the Ocho and the Senko is the shape and scent.

 

They are both cylindrical baits but the Ocho has 8 flat sides where the Senko is round.

 

The Ocho has the Strike King coffee and salt scent while the Senko has, to my nose, no added scent.

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No GYCB baits have scent, to my knowledge.

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love the flat sides and coffee scent. i have some but dont throw them nearly enough. so many plastics, yet i always seem to gravitate to the old stand by’s.

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1 hour ago, NYWayfarer said:

They are both cylindrical baits but the Ocho has 8 flat sides

That's a bit contradictory. (Sorry! I couldn't help myself!)

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I've found 2 things to be a standout in my eyes from the Ocho

 

1. They seem to be a bit less durable, but really no senko is really durable (however I'm testing the Savage Gear Armor Tube worm this year to see how it goes)

 

2. I can absolutely kill it when the senko bite is on if you use an Ocho with a nice glitter in it. I think the flat side combined with the glitter make it highly visible even in stained water

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All Yamamoto baits do have a combination scent/oil.  It's just not as pronounced as others.  

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Can you support that with documentation?  Everything on Inside Line points to adding the scent yourself, and nothing on a built in scent.  I've always been told the scent is a users choice, not baked in.

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I guess I should also mention that I feel like senkos do better than Ochos when they are fished wacky style. In my opinion Senkos are stiffer and hold their shape better than Ochos which tend to droop more the longer they are used. When I fish them on a weightless Texas rig I think the Ochos can hold their own. 

3 hours ago, Preytorien said:

I've found 2 things to be a standout in my eyes from the Ocho

 

1. They seem to be a bit less durable, but really no senko is really durable (however I'm testing the Savage Gear Armor Tube worm this year to see how it goes)

 

2. I can absolutely kill it when the senko bite is on if you use an Ocho with a nice glitter in it. I think the flat side combined with the glitter make it highly visible even in stained water

I also like the fleck that strike king uses. Most of the fish I catch on Ochos come on Ochos with flecks in them where as I catch a lot of senko fish on laminates or flat colored senkos. 

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I haven't used the 5" Ocho, but I fell in love with the 4" for river smallies last summer...I felt like they outfished a 4" GYCB....which is something I did not think was possible. I think it was the thinner body and more aggressive wobble, as mentioned above.

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On 11/13/2017 at 7:48 AM, TOXIC said:

As with any of the hundreds of Senko knock-offs out there you will find the majority of them are poured by a very few manufacturers and just packaged in the retailers bags.  Yamamoto pours its own baits, some custom plastic makers pour Senko type baits but for the most part they are mass produced and packaged.  My point being that many of the commercial knock-offs will all have the same action since they are all poured by the same manufacturers.  For that reason, I wouldn't be concerned all that much about action.  Lot's of fish caught on the Ocho's.  Lots of fish caught on the Stick-O, etc.  If I were buying a knock-off, I would just look at price.    

I could not agree more with Toxic, and I fish senkos, stick-os, ace, and several others brands, almost everyday.  Not much difference that a bass with their pea brain would ever notice.  So buy what is on sale, and the best bang for the buck!  You will catch fish, just master some of the techniques of these baits.

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On 2/2/2018 at 6:16 AM, J Francho said:

Ochos are one the few "substitutes" that I really like.  They are bit of a change up to the senko.

x2. I was traditionally a Yamamoto loyalist for senko-type baits, but after seeing a guy catch some giants on Ochos in a color Yamamoto doesn't offer I picked up a few packs and it's become my go to in certain situations. Great bait.

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27 minutes ago, NorcalBassin said:

x2. I was traditionally a Yamamoto loyalist for senko-type baits, but after seeing a guy catch some giants on Ochos in a color Yamamoto doesn't offer I picked up a few packs and it's become my go to in certain situations. Great bait.

And that color was ??? :D

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