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@fishwizzard - I haven't tried them but I think a Gambler Hollow Point might be what you're looking for with your weightless presentation. There is a cheaper option too called a Carolina Floater.

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Thanks! I had heard of the Carolina Floater, but not the other one.  I had a pack of plastic screw-in "cones" from RI,  but they seem to be discontinued.  

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Love the Rage Craws, Lobsters and Rage Bugs.....the only issue i have had is that i had 5 different packs that did not have the coffee scent that was listed on the label.....(looks like one of the employees forgot to put the scent in the batch that i bought) I always had the coffee scent on all of the others i have used....i did send back a pack to strike king as an example of the error, smelled just like plastic only. Haven't heard back from them yet but i'm sure i will soon. It's been about a week....otherwise great baits. 

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Space Monkey, Lobster, Menace, Cut-R worm, and Shell Cracker. These are must have baits for me.

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I use the space monkey in watermelon red flake and its deadly at my home lake flipping lilly pad fields. The structure bug in california craw, black, and watermelon red flake is sick used as a jig and chatterbait trailer.. 

 

Rage is my favorite brand on soft plastics..

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Bug....Bug...Bug

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Can't believe there's only one mention of CutR.   Probably accounted for more fish the last two years than anything else I use....Bug is close second.  CutR is so versatile...it can be worm, flipping creature, and swimbait..... on the same cast.

Anaconda and long thumpers are my favorite bottom dragging summer trig wirms.   Jigs have Rage chunks and craws 90% of the time.

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I use Rage Craws almost every time I go fishing. The Cut'R worm is also a pretty underrated bait but I've had some good success with it. 

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I am into a million different types of bait. But of all of them, my overall most productive bait for LMB is the Rage Menace grub, simply t-rigged with a 4-0 EWG hook and a non-pegged 3/16 oz tungsten bullet weight. Blue/black or green pumpkin. I always break apart the tiny tail connector.  

 

I think having a bullet weight, at least a small one, makes a big difference with the Menace. With it the tail will kick as it falls, but without the weight it won't unless it is actively retrieved. The Menace is a great jig trailer also, a bit more subtle than the Rage Craw (which is an awesome trailer as well). 

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Menace on a 3/0 weighted swimbait hook. Absolutely killer bait for largemouth.

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Maybe this is one if those things Im just stubborn with and I guess I just need to give them more of a shot...Caught fish on the various craws /Lobster as Jig Trailers, they work and are fairly unique. But the rest if the line just hasnt been very impressive. The various creatures were so stiff you have to be moving them at a good clip to get action. The plastic is really lite weight, but for shallow cover Its almost too lite for weightless. Much rather use a GYBC flappin hog. Have some space monkeys, they look incredible but no fish.

 

 

Tried the shad- when they were getting so much hype... mehh, I can throw a buzzbait anywhere it'll go more accurately, get a lot more bites with better hook ups,  and it took some trickery to get it to keel right. The  worm I tried had no action, actively tried it when they were slaying regular powerbait worms and nothing...they have almost no action unless they're moving or falling at a good clip. Maybe its mental as obviously people catch fish on em, but the rage rig deals with the big hook with lead on just mess with the profile of the bait to me. Again, Ive been wrong many times and may well be here, but I just dont get the hype by and large.

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Been a Rageaholic a long time,The Craw and Menace are great alone or as trailers.The baby swimmer is a Smallie killer.You won't be dissapointed.

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1 hour ago, craww said:

Maybe this is one if those things Im just stubborn with and I guess I just need to give them more of a shot...Caught fish on the various craws /Lobster as Jig Trailers, they work and are fairly unique. But the rest if the line just hasnt been very impressive. The various creatures were so stiff you have to be moving them at a good clip to get action. The plastic is really lite weight, but for shallow cover Its almost too lite for weightless. Much rather use a GYBC flappin hog. Have some space monkeys, they look incredible but no fish.

 

 

Tried the shad- when they were getting so much hype... mehh, I can throw a buzzbait anywhere it'll go more accurately, get a lot more bites with better hook ups,  and it took some trickery to get it to keel right. The  worm I tried had no action, actively tried it when they were slaying regular powerbait worms and nothing...they have almost no action unless they're moving or falling at a good clip. Maybe its mental as obviously people catch fish on em, but the rage rig deals with the big hook with lead on just mess with the profile of the bait to me. Again, Ive been wrong many times and may well be here, but I just dont get the hype by and large.

According to the inventor of the baits, anything other than the surface running baits require a 1/4 oz. weight to activate the flapping action.  That info is on their rigging tips pages.  So, it isn't really that your not getting the hype, just using the baits incorrectly, and therefore not realizing the results so many others have.  Try again with proper rigging, and see if that works better for you.

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I have a few packages of the Menace but didn't realize how much people loved them here! Any recommendations on colors for different water clarity or target species?

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Color isn't really a biggie for me - Something black, something brown, something green, for low visibility to clear, in that order, is the general recommendation.

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I always have Rage Craws, Bugs and Space Monkeys in the boat. I know it's not Rage but the Rodent is a must have as well. Great product !  

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Rage Bug ~ That is all. 

:smiley:

A-Jay

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Rage Bugs and Rage Swimmers have been good to me in watermelon red flake and green pumpkin colors. I really need to try the Craws, Menace, Space Monkey and CutR Worms though. I'll get around to them soon enough hopefully.

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The Cut R is my #1 plastic..In case you didn't know, when swimming rig with the flange down.

For more vertical presentations rig flange up...It does make a difference 

Then The Bug and Craw.

 

I've been useing the Recon worm more and more latley also.

 

 

 

Mike

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On 11/16/2017 at 8:23 AM, craww said:

Maybe this is one if those things Im just stubborn with and I guess I just need to give them more of a shot...Caught fish on the various craws /Lobster as Jig Trailers, they work and are fairly unique. But the rest if the line just hasnt been very impressive. The various creatures were so stiff you have to be moving them at a good clip to get action. The plastic is really lite weight, but for shallow cover Its almost too lite for weightless. Much rather use a GYBC flappin hog. Have some space monkeys, they look incredible but no fish.

 

 

Tried the shad- when they were getting so much hype... mehh, I can throw a buzzbait anywhere it'll go more accurately, get a lot more bites with better hook ups,  and it took some trickery to get it to keel right. The  worm I tried had no action, actively tried it when they were slaying regular powerbait worms and nothing...they have almost no action unless they're moving or falling at a good clip. Maybe its mental as obviously people catch fish on em, but the rage rig deals with the big hook with lead on just mess with the profile of the bait to me. Again, Ive been wrong many times and may well be here, but I just dont get the hype by and large.

A few of them no action whatsoever unless you rip the flappers apart 

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Personally I think Rage plastics have the most action of any plastics you can buy, certainly better than the power bait line. But that's me. 

 

As was said, the one's with the tab should be pulled apart. 

I use the Cut R with it loose but leave it attached. 

 

 

Mike

20 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Rage Bug ~ That is all. 

:smiley:

A-Jay

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That thing is a killer!!

 

 

 

Mike

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Lol yeah I understand the concept of tabs guys and know the manufacturer states they work with 1/8oz and up, when I mentioned weightless in was reference to others mentioning using non top waters weightless. 

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6 hours ago, Mike L said:

 

As was said, the one's with the tab should be pulled apart. 

I use the Cut R with it loose but leave it attached. 

That is crazy, I could never do it, it would be like having a loose tooth...

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ALL Rage Tail products should have the appendages unattached.  No exceptions.

 

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On ‎11‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 8:23 AM, craww said:

Maybe this is one if those things Im just stubborn with and I guess I just need to give them more of a shot...Caught fish on the various craws /Lobster as Jig Trailers, they work and are fairly unique. But the rest if the line just hasnt been very impressive. The various creatures were so stiff you have to be moving them at a good clip to get action. The plastic is really lite weight, but for shallow cover Its almost too lite for weightless. Much rather use a GYBC flappin hog. Have some space monkeys, they look incredible but no fish.

 

 

Tried the shad- when they were getting so much hype... mehh, I can throw a buzzbait anywhere it'll go more accurately, get a lot more bites with better hook ups,  and it took some trickery to get it to keel right. The  worm I tried had no action, actively tried it when they were slaying regular powerbait worms and nothing...they have almost no action unless they're moving or falling at a good clip. Maybe its mental as obviously people catch fish on em, but the rage rig deals with the big hook with lead on just mess with the profile of the bait to me. Again, Ive been wrong many times and may well be here, but I just dont get the hype by and large.

I use the Biospawn Vile Craw almost exclusive because of the crazy action they give even rigged weightless.

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