moguy1973 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 This is pretty big news. I guess Lowrance and Humminbird won't be using Navionics cards anymore. LOL http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/garmin-acquires-navionics-1005836171 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted October 27, 2017 Global Moderator Posted October 27, 2017 Very interesting! Quote
Super User Scott F Posted October 27, 2017 Super User Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, moguy1973 said: This is pretty big news. I guess Lowrance and Humminbird won't be using Navionics cards anymore. LOL http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/garmin-acquires-navionics-1005836171 I don't see it that way. Garmin gives away high definition maps with its products. Navionics takes in considerable income from all the Humminbird and Lowrance owners who buy mapping chips. Why would Garmin want to shut off that source of income? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 27, 2017 Super User Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, moguy1973 said: I guess Lowrance and Humminbird won't be using Navionics cards anymore. I would say that is a stretch. The map cards are just underlay images. Garmin just added good mapping to already good mapping, and will gain sales revenue from others' fish finders with less detailed base maps. Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted October 27, 2017 Global Moderator Posted October 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, Scott F said: I don't see it that way. Garmin gives away high definition maps with its products. Navionics takes in considerable income from all the Humminbird and Lowrance owners who buy mapping chips. Why would Garmin want to shut off that source of income? I could see them doing it to Lowrance for 2 reasons. 1: to kind of get back at them for the lawsuit Lowrance filed against Garmin a while back 2: with the exception of the high end models (which I know nothing about) Garmin and Lowrance are pretty close to being on a level playing field. The only reason Humminbird isn't in the mix (in my opinion) is the have MEGA imaging which gives them the nod over the other two. I think you'll see a lot more Garmin units being sold now. From what I've read a bunch of consumers big hang up with Garmin was the fact that they couldn't use Navionics or LakeMaster. Now you have Navionics with Garmin. Garmin is making big strides over the past couple years with Panoptixs, Quickdraw, everything they include in their cheaper units, and the affordability of their units. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted October 27, 2017 Super User Posted October 27, 2017 What would you need to use Navionics or Lakemaster when Garmin includes 17,000 maps with their units at no charge? I dumped my Lowrance depthfinders a couple years ago after seeing how great the built in high def maps that were included for free. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 27, 2017 Super User Posted October 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, 12poundbass said: 1: to kind of get back at them for the lawsuit Lowrance filed against Garmin a while back That makes sense. Reduce sales revenue for your own company to get back at another. Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted October 27, 2017 Global Moderator Posted October 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, Scott F said: What would you need to use Navionics or Lakemaster when Garmin includes 17,000 maps with their units at no charge? I dumped my Lowrance depthfinders a couple years ago after seeing how great the built in high def maps that were included for free. I'm going by what I've read, like with everything you read these day I don't take anything as gospil. I agree with you and that's the main reason I'm going with Garmin is because of the lakes that are included. I don't have a clue how many lakes Navionics and LakeMaster have on their cards, but 17,000 doesn't seem like a whole lot when you think about it. I'm assuming that wasn't enough for Garmin either. 22 minutes ago, J Francho said: That makes sense. Reduce sales revenue for your own company to get back at another. As an after thought you're right that would be a dumb move. Might explain why I'm not a business owner. ? 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 27, 2017 Super User Posted October 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, 12poundbass said: I don't have a clue how many lakes Navionics and LakeMaster have on their cards, but 17,000 doesn't seem like a whole lot when you think about it. I'm assuming that wasn't enough for Garmin either. So they add value to an already good product, and open new revenue streams via chip sales. It makes good sense for Garmin. 1 Quote
moguy1973 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Posted October 27, 2017 I think they acquired them just to get that many more smaller lakes contours. Ones that aren't available with their 17000 maps they include on their units. If I were Lowrance I wouldn't want to have a Navionics card in my finders just to spite Garmin again. Quote
Sprocket Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I think this is a win, win, win deal. I've had a bunch of people tell me they would buy Garmin but with no Navionics they didn't. Humminbird and Lowrance will still be able to get Navionics, but now I'm going to have to get another unit so I can look at both maps at the same time. SE Kansas grass grower Quote
WolverineVanFish Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 I love my garmin echomap but I pretty much map every lake i fish with quickdraw Quote
Super User Further North Posted October 28, 2017 Super User Posted October 28, 2017 Interesting development...I'm fortunate to live in an area where Lake Master chips in my Humminbird get the job done really well. I have WI and Lake of the Woods chips and that covers my needs right now. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 29, 2017 Super User Posted October 29, 2017 I use Lakemaster for northeast states. Finger Lakes are nicely represented. Quote
Super User Further North Posted October 29, 2017 Super User Posted October 29, 2017 2 hours ago, J Francho said: I use Lakemaster for northeast states. Finger Lakes are nicely represented. I flew over the Finger Lakes last week...they looked awesome from the air. 1 Quote
contium Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 What's funny is that several years ago, you could use Navionics in Garmins. They they locked out Navionics with a software update. 1 Quote
Super User Further North Posted October 30, 2017 Super User Posted October 30, 2017 16 hours ago, contium said: What's funny is that several years ago, you could use Navionics in Garmins. They they locked out Navionics with a software update. ??? My Navioincs Canada chip worked in my brand new Helix units on Lake of the Woods in June. ...and yes, they are always updated as new releases come out... Quote
contium Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Further North said: ??? My Navioincs Canada chip worked in my brand new Helix units on Lake of the Woods in June. ...and yes, they are always updated as new releases come out... What does a Hummingbird Helix have to do with what I said? Garmin blocked Navionics chips from working on Garmin units. Quote
Super User Further North Posted October 30, 2017 Super User Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, contium said: What does a Hummingbird Helix have to do with what I said? Garmin blocked Navionics chips from working on Garmin units. Simple...I completely miss-read your post...Getting old isn't for the faint of heart... 1 2 Quote
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